New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Expedience]

THE ONE TRUE TRAJECTORY

[Persivul]

Everything makes more sense when you assume Titus is town and notice pers is scum.

This is completely incorrect. You're not looking at the big picture at all. Scum!Pers would have joined with or avoided town!Titus, then NK'd her.

[Persivul]

I was townreading Persivul before, what made me rethink the read was him asking people to vote him. That seemed to me like a scum WIFOM play about making himself look tough and unafraid of votes.

I never developed a taste for wifom. I actually am unafraid of votes. TBG's wagon had stalled, but nothing else was building, and he would have ended up as the default deadline lynch. If TBG is town, I don't think his flip would have done anything. He just seemed to accumulate votes over time without much of a case ever being stated. I believe my flip will be much more informative, as people are needing to give reasons to switch to me late in phase, and those reasons are weak.

[Persivul]

Faked scumreads have no nuance to them, because they're made up and you already know alignments. Real scumreads come in varying levels of certainty. The fact that you think me, zakk, pers, and shotty have the same chance of being Scum comes from a Scum perspective. A Town player is making their best guesses, and is naturally more or less sure on slots as they do scummy/townie things. I have never, ever met a Town player who had the same level of confidence in 4 different lynches.

This bears repeating.

[Persivul]

You and Pers have attempted to do a rhetorical damned if you do damned if you don't. If I am voting you, your buddy argues that I'm not pushing him. I vote him, you argue that my belief it's genuine. I already highlighted that before. I can be equally confident in two scumreads and only have one vote.

This results from you supposedly having four or five people as equal scum reads. If you had varying levels of uncertainty, as is usual with town, you would want to lynch the one you're least unsure of, and so you'd have a valid reason not to flip-flop when challenged.

Speaking of which...if TBG and I were scum partners, why would I try to draw the wagon off of him and onto myself? The only reason would be that I'm a goon and he's a PR. Town!titus would have spotted that easily and and given it as reason not to switch. But, you just gave viability as a reason, and eventually did switch.

[Lowell]

Is zakk scum, btw? I'm really asking. bc damn I do not know.

this is a weird post.

if there's an alignment cop i request they check Lowell.

i thought the same. looks like Lazytown to me, which is why i answered it succinctly instead of overanalyzing it

don't know how Lowell-scum plays, but to me this looks more like a player trying to get back into the game mentally than someone trying to throw shade, bc 1. way too obvious in a short iso 2. easy to call out, like you just did, and 3. i assume lowell is smarter than that

and overthinking THAT would be overanalyzing. so he gets a detached townread for now.

zakk's right. I just can't sort him. If I thought specifically he was scum I'd say so. I don't do the "omg u guyz I don't know maybe X is scum guyz? but im just sayin'", as a rule, regardless of alignment.

What made me ask the question is that, despite being an active poster, I have no good read on him. Which is confusing for me.

[zakk]

That's pretty common to have mixed feelings on me especially on early days because I vote a lot of different stuff and push a lot of different ways to see what happens and who does what, so that a flip or two from the lynch & Nk will actually tell us something worthwhile instead of just culling numbers

Lowell read tutus /pers and let me know your thoughts pls

[Titus]

Is zakk scum, btw? I'm really asking. bc damn I do not know.

this is a weird post.

if there's an alignment cop i request they check Lowell.

i thought the same. looks like Lazytown to me, which is why i answered it succinctly instead of overanalyzing it

don't know how Lowell-scum plays, but to me this looks more like a player trying to get back into the game mentally than someone trying to throw shade, bc 1. way too obvious in a short iso 2. easy to call out, like you just did, and 3. i assume lowell is smarter than that

and overthinking THAT would be overanalyzing. so he gets a detached townread for now.

zakk's right. I just can't sort him. If I thought specifically he was scum I'd say so. I don't do the "omg u guyz I don't know maybe X is scum guyz? but im just sayin'", as a rule, regardless of alignment.

What made me ask the question is that, despite being an active poster, I have no good read on him. Which is confusing for me.

To me, zakk's been scum ever since he misrepped ETL to push a case on her. If you can't get a handle on someone, what I'd do is look at their posts and ask why. That's the same thing I suggested to Ircher earlier.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Is zakk scum, btw? I'm really asking. bc damn I do not know.

this is a weird post.

if there's an alignment cop i request they check Lowell.

i thought the same. looks like Lazytown to me, which is why i answered it succinctly instead of overanalyzing it

don't know how Lowell-scum plays, but to me this looks more like a player trying to get back into the game mentally than someone trying to throw shade, bc 1. way too obvious in a short iso 2. easy to call out, like you just did, and 3. i assume lowell is smarter than that

and overthinking THAT would be overanalyzing. so he gets a detached townread for now.

zakk's right. I just can't sort him. If I thought specifically he was scum I'd say so. I don't do the "omg u guyz I don't know maybe X is scum guyz? but im just sayin'", as a rule, regardless of alignment.

What made me ask the question is that, despite being an active poster, I have no good read on him. Which is confusing for me.

To me, zakk's been scum ever since he misrepped ETL to push a case on her. If you can't get a handle on someone, what I'd do is look at their posts and ask why. That's the same thing I suggested to Ircher earlier.

qft

[zakk]

i just explained the "why", but ok.
do your own research obv.

you'll come around to me on later days. that's normal for most townies.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

you'll come around to me on later days. that's normal for most townies.

except for me, because i'm sucking up to you, of course.

[zakk]

you've already begun coming around, if you're town

you've realized it's better to be on my side, if you're scum

either way i'm probably gonna die before d3

[SirCakez]

Kop replaces SethYazura! Please welcome him.

Deadline will remain frozen until heuristically_alone's spot is also filled.

[Kop]

Your saviour is here. Allow me to catch up a bit or get the jist of where things are.

Hello ETL, if I make it to lylo, I won't be voting for a no lynch, unlike in blitz

Nahdia, nice to be back in with you again.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.19

The Everglades in the United States!

Persivul (7) - EspeciallyTheLies, Lowell, MagnaOfIllusion, Titus, copper223, zakk, Expedience
TehBrawlGuy (4) - Kop, Aneninen, Ircher, cytheflyguy
Kop (2) - Nosferatu, Egg
Aneninen (2) - Nahdia, projectmatt
zakk (2) - Killthestory, drmyshottyiszik
Killthestory (1) - Liger_zero
cytheflyguy (1) - heuristically_alone
MagnaOfIllusion (1) - Persivul
Titus (1) - TehBrawlGuy

Not voting (0)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

Deadline is frozen at 1 day

Ircher is V/LA until June 3.
Aneninen is V/LA until June 3.

[Nahdia]

Your saviour is here. Allow me to catch up a bit or get the jist of where things are.

Hello ETL, if I make it to lylo, I won't be voting for a no lynch, unlike in blitz

Nahdia, nice to be back in with you again.

are u town? if so, just sit back and relax. i'll carry u to another ez win ^_~

[Titus]

Nahdia, why won't you vote the scums w me? There's two good wagons.

[Nahdia]

I'll hammer if I gotta. copper is scum over Persivul tho and TBG is aight by me.

[Nosferatu]

still here, kinda prodge, but I'll read up

[Titus]

I'll hammer if I gotta. copper is scum over Persivul tho and TBG is aight by me.

*pulls hair out* Whyyyyy?

[Nahdia]

cause im a hipster and ur reads are too main stream.

[Titus]

*cries* I cannot talk to this. Like look at that vote count. Look at the names on those wagons...

[Nahdia]

i see scum on both of those wagons.

[Titus]

Who are your scumreads then?

[Nahdia]

copper and Anen, mostly.