A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Cerberus v666]

Also, for the record, scum Jailkeeper is actually a thing I'm a little more open to after some contemplation right now...but it kinda depends on how the stupid fucking prince thing worked.

If it was purely NU, then a scum jailkeeper could have worked to keep dwlee from ever getting shot until they needed him to use a strongman shot.

If, however, it was PU if he died during the night, then the scum jailkeeper loses that additional benefit.

[The Pied Piper]

So the sad new is that I didn't find what I was looking for (or more accurately it doesn't exist), but I WOULD like to know what the extra info (tm) TPP claimed to have to say Cakez is the vig was, and why it's less valid this town when Cakez says no than the last time.

It was just crumbhunting, and PoE based on other crumbhunting. We revealed that already. Before our claim we were trying to make it look like we had more information than we did so that scum would take a shot us at us to prevent that information getting out. It worked for Jingle in Original Mafia but it backfired here.

that awful speculation based on vig requests,

I could explain why we're confident that Cakez is the Vig, but that seems pretty fucking anti-town and pretty fucking stupid. I'd love to know how "incorrectly speculating who the vig is" is a scumtell, though!

I think that if the vig is an SK then it's cakes or podoboq or cerb I guess since he keeps saying he hasn't claimed his full role and that would explain him not sticking his neck out very far this game.

Now seems like a good time, just sayin. Cakez claimed not vig again, so let's hear this confidence.
And while we're talking about confidence;

Cakez, I have a pretty good idea where your tictac scumread is coming from, but they aren't scum. Axel would be a better vote.

Hmm, where do you think it's coming from?

The reason we worded it that way is that we're trying to avoid outing 3+ different people's roles, none of whom are public knowledge at this time. I would rather not speculate in public about what roles my townreads have if they haven't felt like outing themselves yet.

Also still waiting on the third+ role here.

Fluber's role, Cakes' role (if he's the

vig

sk), our role. that's three. Additionally, because of the way my language works, I would have found it difficult to discuss only those three without discussing the PoE based on other roles that I'd crumbhunted because it's all connected in a knotted mass in my head and I can't just pull out little pieces to talk about by themselves very easily. Nacho was able to do it in the post where he said he was done with this dumbshit distraction; all of my posting that day phase was "stop asking me questions because i don't know how to answer your questions without saying more about crumbs than i should" posting.

Part of my push on cakes was because I thought that he was scum who was crumbing vig which made me think that if he wasn't groupscum then he could be an SK, but nacho didn't think there was an SK because of the kills, and I figured he was probably right and that it wasn't worth worrying about anyway, plus Cakes seemed pretty town in his response to our pushing on him on day 2 or whenever it was, so I re-evaluated my read on him to vig. 4302 and 4632 explain why we were so confident he was the vig.

It was actually podoboq's posting that made me think I'd gotten it wrong because he seemed so sure that somebody else was the vig, and also I was taking Cakes denial into account because by then, I was thinking vig, not sk.

Something occurred to me as well that podoboq's panicking over being too widely townread and wanting people to push on him would make sense for an SK. I read it as town initially, but I remember my first time playing multiball as scum in CYS as a newbie and I wrote an impassioned "please everybody else stick out there necks a little bit farther because I have stuck mine out too far" speech. It contained speculation that everybody else in the game had the best role pm they'd ever seen, just like I had. I wrote it because I was trying to avoid getting crosskilled. It didn't work obviously, I was killed night 1. A lot of podoboq's posting reminds me of that panic of "I'm the townest person in this game but I'm scum and there's another team and i don't know how to stop townposting" that I felt in that game. The way he reacts to being townread is off.

These are not at all the things I went looking for though
Was looking for a "im also townreading flub cuz no kill the night he activated his BP" kind of post since that would be pretty smoking gun coming from someone else claiming BP but there is no such post.

We believe that flubber's predecessor was a likely vig target on night 2 because he was widely scumread. We still think that if the SK who was pretending to be a vig took a shot on night 2, that flubber's bulletproof is an explanation for why nobody was vigged on night 2. We don't think groupscum would've shot him in a million years when literally nobody but us was townreading him, so no, that doesn't make him town. We were townreading him exclusively for tictac's neighbourhood posting.

[dramonic]

Thats certainly a... new angle...

[dramonic]

At this point Im waiting on Cerb's thing cuz I have alternate theories but I dont wanna delve into them right now =_=

[drmyshottyizsik]

sorry I got in a car accident last night, hospital post, will be out later today sorry.

[Cerberus v666]

sorry I got in a car accident last night, hospital post, will be out later today sorry.

Holy shit, I'm sorry to hear that and glad you're well enough to be getting out today.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I should be, they are doing x rays and stuff and hve me on drugs

[dramonic]

This is a good time to be posting.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Sure is, btw stop telling me who to investigate, I'm not setting my self up to be blocked and then called a liar.

[The Pied Piper]

Hope nothing's broken, Shotty. Take care of yourself.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Hope nothing's broken, Shotty. Take care of yourself.

Nah that's my doctors job :p
But thanks! My wife brought me my computer so I'm good now, great wifi here

[SirCakez]

If who gets shot tonight, changes if you want to lynch the shooter or not, you're not reading.
OR you don't understand the gamestate.

Flubber is a pretty crap lynch ftr.

Elaborate.

Remember, in the universe I'm contemplating, the choice is between TPP and Flubbernugget.

You've been attempting to get TPP lynched forever.

Why is flubber crap?

Also, does anyone care enough about shotty's ability to not have everyone flavor claim now so we can just resolve this bullshit thing that I have? Other than cakez, that is?

Honestly, your thing is more important to me than confirming that shotty is flavor cop.

On further thought, just don't have Mala claim. She's already conftown.

Cakez should claim flavor, since you might be able to confirm he's town and I can move my vote elsewhere.

WTF
I'm not claiming flavor, shotty needs to be tested.

I actually think the Vig is an Odd Vig and that's why the shots have been going the way they are. That's just a wild theory though.

[dramonic]

Unlikely

[dramonic]

Cakez is prooooobably the SK.
Not that this surprises anyone

[SirCakez]

Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway

[dramonic]

How exciting.
You are the least cooperative "person-about-to-be-conftown" ive seen in quite a while

[SirCakez]

I'm not claiming today

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm not claiming today

gladiate cakes

[SirCakez]

[dramonic]

If this is real I'm gonna be really fucking bitter.

[drmyshottyizsik]

If this is real I'm gonna be really fucking bitter.

Ya good lord, I can't believe you all bought the flavor cop thing! Now choose.

Spoiler: wait

Just Kidding I'm still a flavor cop

[itlepip]

shotty, cakez is still town. He definitely to wait to claim until tomorrow.

[podoboq]

I'm not claiming flavor, shotty needs to be tested.

You aren't the only one with unclaimed flavor, though. Mala hasn't claimed either. Shotty can just target there.

Plus, I don't know why you're so invested in shotty being tested. TO was one of the towniest slots in the game. I highly doubt the role was just made up. It's possible that the slot could be mafia flavor cop if you want to get dumb about it. Testing it doesn't really get us anywhere.

You claiming, though, could conf town you with Cerb's information. So basically you think conf town is less value somehow than confirming shotty's role (assuming he isn't roleblocked), which is not necessarily indicative of his alignment.

Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK

WIFOM. Also, if that's true, good luck winning as SK, because that's basically the only potential leverage the role has.

This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway

I doubt it, but assuming that's true, why not just do it now? According to you we have one certain way to confirm you, and one possible way to confirm you through Cerb, and you're refusing to let us do either because.......

[SirCakez]

Because Shotty is very scummy
I've nearly won as SK before and that was without faking Vig

Stop trying to make me claim wtf, there's absolutely no need for it

[Flubbernugget]

Podo I don't believe for a minute you left that"crumb" with the intent of scum picking it up