It doesn't seem unreasonable. The reverse might be, but it is quite normal for replacements to seem a lot townier than their replacees cuz they are a lot more engaged and focused on the game. Aka, they work harder.In post 2340, Shaziro wrote:Not sure if anybody else noticed, but since I replaced HA, ETL's reads there were kinda wonky. HA was scum, but I was town...I don't think that's how replacing in works. And it's not a matter of her thoughts changing over a bit of time...because it was literally two posts later, the one in between just being me pointing out that the "That's definitely VI, don't worry about it" reasoning got my town the loss in my last game. I can't tell if this was her not paying attention to the game or what.In post 2303, Nahdia wrote:In post 2137, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:ok I've got shaziro, you, nahdia, liger, magna as town Zakk and pers as maybe townIn post 2129, Titus wrote:Even I have minor reservations on the Persivul wagon, but there's no way I am going for KTS. This is the wierdest collective response to a fake hammer in my recollection.
VC please
ETL, the reads you wanted to give please?
copper maybe scum. shotty is ??? maybe scum? cy maybe scum less nulls than before but still more than I'd like atm. hang on. need to look at my list. (I'm mobile)In post 2139, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:egg maybe scum. HA scum. expedience town. ircher kop are both still unknown. ircher because I don't know what I'm seeing in his ISO. prob lean more town on him than kop. I think Lowell might be town and tbg is null for the same reason ircher is. I can't make up my mind tbere. stuck.
It's possible, but it would be hard to make it look authentic.In post 2346, Lowell wrote:Also I'm beginning to think this might be a long con after all, and that we're watching the most sustained double-bussing ever.
...Srsly! Do explain further how such is indicative of scum. (You have guven the evidence/reasoning, but I want the theory-related side that makes such actions a scumtell).In post 2350, zakk wrote:Also lol at the lazy votes on me
Shotty should be on Titus based on pers flip which makes me think they're scum together kinda, or possibly scum of differing faction bantering to seem less dangerous to each other and avoid NKs in the future
In fact even though after 3 deaths I expect everyone to be playing more survivalistic right now, Titus not changing her reads AND adopting a more friendly tone with people is scum
Vote: titus
Also
Well, KTS was likely a vig shot. Killing ETL makes sense as scum cuz ETL is prob. a skilled player. While we had the Brawl wagon yesterday, killing Brawl makes sense if Titus is scum or someone is trying to frame Titus. It's definitely not an awful choice for an SK to choose. Titus, while a leader, is probably a bit off on reads & if Titus is town, makes a good lynch target for today.In post 2352, cytheflyguy wrote:VOTE: Titus
Am I the only person that finds it sus that she has taken a leadership position in this game and with three dead people, she's not one of them?
What do ypu mean, scum? ETL was town, so I don't get what you're saying.In post 2355, Shaziro wrote:I mean, it's pretty much a null point because we know ETL was town, but it still makes me feel like the read on my slot has gone without much thought, as nobody else pointed it out. I just noticed it because of Nahdia's quoting. Don't scum typically want the newbies to make it to endgame?
I don't understand this question at all. I guess... those people were smart? Except that scum also didn't use their kills effectively, so it probably means nothing.In post 2349, zakk wrote: Titus, Lowell, AND Nadia - what do you think of the last minute wagon trend AWAY from Persivul even though all scum whatever kind knew he wasn't them? And with KTS flipping town too even more WTF
Burden of proof isn't on me. You took it upon yourself to investigate this point. I don't need to do jack. I also didn't ask for you to trust me, I literally told you to look for it.In post 2337, Shaziro wrote:Burden of proof is on you, you're the one who claimed it was part of your meta. If it's that obvious, why can't you do it instead of telling everyone else "Oh it's there, just trust me"?Look for it yourself, pretty sure you could find a case where I scum read someone and didn't vote them while they were being lynched.In post 2242, Shaziro wrote:Better yet. You claim that it's a thing you always do. Why don't you prove it with links to other cases in which you did it, Nos? Don't claim it's your meta if you're not willing to prove it, right?
Please explain how I would deathtunnel myself.I'm very interested, gonna follow through on this? I doubt it, but it's interesting that you didn't even mention it.In post 2025, Nosferatu wrote:if he flips town I'll deathtunnel myselfIn post 2021, Killthestory wrote:nos you think Pers is scum? If he doesn't flip scum know that I'll deathtunnel you.
Why is it disingenuous that I say this is what I do and you refusing to go ahead and look for it if you think it's that big of a deal? The burden of proof is also on you to provide examples of me saying things just to get people lynched. You've got a lot of stuff to do lol.In post 2362, Shaziro wrote:Assumedly by self-voting. Again, I get that you won't do it, it was a stupid thing to offer, but I think it's interesting that you -did- offer it. As for burden of proof, all you saying "Oh it's not weird, it's a part of my meta!" and then refusing to prove that it's a part of you meta does is show that you're being disingenuous. It honestly seems to me like you're just saying things to get lynches on people other than you and then hoping anybody who would question it gets killed or forgets.
VOTE: Nosferatu
In post 2362, Shaziro wrote:Assumedly by self-voting. Again, I get that you won't do it, it was a stupid thing to offer, but I think it's interesting that you -did- offer it. As for burden of proof, all you saying "Oh it's not weird, it's a part of my meta!" and then refusing to prove that it's a part of you meta does is show that you're being disingenuous. It honestly seems to me like you're just saying things to get lynches on people other than you and then hoping anybody who would question it gets killed or forgets.
VOTE: Nosferatu
In post 2364, Shaziro wrote:A perfect example would be your telling KTS to vote Percivul because "If he's town I'll death tunnel myself". Obviously, you wouldn't do that, because either way it'd be playing against your win-con unless you're a jester, which is apparently not in this game. KTS, however, went ahead and voted Pers because of it. That is you saying something to get somebody lynched.
this is a TOTAL cop out.In post 2359, Lowell wrote:I don't understand this question at all. I guess... those people were smart? Except that scum also didn't use their kills effectively, so it probably means nothing.In post 2349, zakk wrote: Titus, Lowell, AND Nadia - what do you think of the last minute wagon trend AWAY from Persivul even though all scum whatever kind knew he wasn't them? And with KTS flipping town too even more WTF
and this.In post 2360, Lowell wrote:Really what I think is "homework" like this is why many people think you're scum. This looks like straight-up chatter, for nothing.
The level that you misconstrue this is amazing. I didn't push kill to vote pers.In post 2366, Shaziro wrote:Do you not feel like Nos is trying to avoid having to defend their own claim about their meta? Or that them trying to push KTS to vote Pers (Who I had also voted against, I'm not trying to deny that) by offering to deathtunnel themself (Which in actually I basically boil down to "If this is town, lynch me tomorrow" which is...still playing against your win condition no matter what?) and then trying to fling shade my way for pointing it out is scummy? I haven't made a claim without backing it up. They have. I find that scummy, so I put a vote there. I don't see what's wrong about that, Lowell.
obviously I'm not going to deathtunnel myself. I was jokingly telling kill that if pers flipped town I'd be fine with him tunneling me.Shaziro wrote:A perfect example would be your telling KTS to vote Percivul because "If he's town I'll death tunnel myself". Obviously, you wouldn't do that, because either way it'd be playing against your win-con unless you're a jester, which is apparently not in this game. KTS, however, went ahead and voted Pers because of it. That is you saying something to get somebody lynched.
This is 100% true, upon looking back at that exchange. My apologies. I'll go and check your meta once I get off mobile and back at home. I'll remove my vote if I find that kind of meta, because I thought of one potential reason you wouldn't be willing to give links that would still have you as town after realizing my mistake. Otherwise it's parked.In post 2370, Nosferatu wrote: I didn't push kill
I've already checked the most recent games, it's not there. Check more earlier games. I would cite one game but it's not finished.In post 2371, Shaziro wrote:This is 100% true, upon looking back at that exchange. My apologies. I'll go and check your meta once I get off mobile and back at home. I'll remove my vote if I find that kind of meta, because I thought of one potential reason you wouldn't be willing to give links that would still have you as town after realizing my mistake. Otherwise it's parked.In post 2370, Nosferatu wrote: I didn't push kill