In post 1046, Clumsy wrote:I was wanting to lynch Snowman pretty badly before all of this, but Kuroi has been doing some really strange things.
Like what?
In fact, Kuroi, why did you not use your gladiate when Snarky claimed his if you didn't believe he was gladiator?
Because I'm a one-shot and I didn't want to use it if he was going to die anyway. He was L-1.
And again: "I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?" What does this mean? Because it's looking like you know something we don't.
That means that I didn't think there were more than one gladiators this Earth. I guess there are, but I don't think there are more than one town-based ones.
In post 1041, KuroiXHF wrote:Now that I'm going back to work today, my activity level will spike. I promise.
Snarky using gladiator on me because I counterclaimed him is crap. I said that I am a gladiator then asked how people thought if there could be more than one. So the position that Snarky put us in is TvT, except that gladiator isn't strictly a town role:
As far as the asking to replace out, I've asked the same to Soren who put out a comparable level of activity. I've also noted in other games that he doesn't scum hunt.
I feel like you're trying to back out of this now. You outright said that he's lying about being a gladiator. So that means that you thought it was a fake claim. Which is something only scum should do (unless very particular circumstances that don't matter here). So why are you calling it a TvT? Shouldn't you think that he's scum? If you thought he was town, would you still 'counter claim'? This doesn't make sense to me at all, and then calling it a TvT seems like you're pushing for a possible no lynch to get out of this today.
I also really like Snowman's 995. But what really does it for me is my point above. This should not be TvT to you. You counterclaimed for a reason. You were a major pusher for Snarky's lynch. You pushed the lynch here telling us he was scum. Now you call it town. I think I made my decision.
VOTE: KuroiXHF
I've already explained the TvT. Please pay attention.
And why do you think only scum would call another claim as lying? I'm gladiator so seeing another gladiator game in a micro game sounds like BS.
And again: "I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?" What does this mean? Because it's looking like you know something we don't.
That means that I didn't think there were more than one gladiators this Earth. I guess there are, but I don't think there are more than one town-based ones.
You essentially said "Now Snarky put us in a TvT gladiate, except not necessarily". O.o
I do think that if there are 2 gladiators, one being scum makes more sense than 0. But this isn't really helping you here. If you flip town, I think we should look into Snowman more. If Snowman flips town, then you.
Where is Everyone else??
P- edot: you have to remember it's not onvious to us
In post 1054, SnarkySnowman wrote:Okay, that is to say, implying you do think there are more than one town-based gladiators now? You went saying that TvT thing again, I surmise.
I'm saying there is ONE town-based gladiator. There is probably a scum-based gladiator. And no, I didn't say this is TvT.
In post 1055, Clumsy wrote:You essentially said "Now Snarky put us in a TvT gladiate, except not necessarily". O.o
Right - except that it makes no sense. In a full length mafia game, fine. Maybe. But in a micro game? With 9 people?
I do think that if there are 2 gladiators, one being scum makes more sense than 0. But this isn't really helping you here. If you flip town, I think we should look into Snowman more. If Snowman flips town, then you.
What are your thoughts if I gladiate Snowman tomorrow?
That's assuming there will be no lynch today. Do you remember the BuzzFeed game? Where it didn't make sense for scum to have the other wannabe vigilante? That kind of reasoning lost town the game. You have to be careful with that kind of reasoning.
In post 1041, KuroiXHF wrote:Now that I'm going back to work today, my activity level will spike. I promise.
Snarky using gladiator on me because I counterclaimed him is crap. I said that I am a gladiator then asked how people thought if there could be more than one. So the position that Snarky put us in is TvT, except that gladiator isn't strictly a town role:
As far as the asking to replace out, I've asked the same to Soren who put out a comparable level of activity. I've also noted in other games that he doesn't scum hunt.
I feel like you're trying to back out of this now. You outright said that he's lying about being a gladiator. So that means that you thought it was a fake claim. Which is something only scum should do (unless very particular circumstances that don't matter here). So why are you calling it a TvT? Shouldn't you think that he's scum? If you thought he was town, would you still 'counter claim'? This doesn't make sense to me at all, and then calling it a TvT seems like you're pushing for a possible no lynch to get out of this today.
I also really like Snowman's 995. But what really does it for me is my point above. This should not be TvT to you. You counterclaimed for a reason. You were a major pusher for Snarky's lynch. You pushed the lynch here telling us he was scum. Now you call it town. I think I made my decision.
VOTE: KuroiXHF
Basically this post is like everything I want to say about the gladiation.
@Snarky: I'm not sure if I can properly articulate my feelings about MoI. The back-and-forth between us after I posted that felt more like his D1 self, where I was seeing really deep analysis and a lot of like reading between the lines which I feel like scum wouldn't bother to do. I'm not even sure if the difference that I saw is real or is valid whatsoever.
