A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Flubbernugget]

%hats all ive caught up %o

[podoboq]

Podo I don't believe for a minute you left that"crumb" with the intent of scum picking it up

Again, Cakez and Marquis played a game with me where as vanilla town, I made basically the same play. It's one of my two completed games on site. If they don't want to comment on it, I can go find the page in that game where it happens.

[podoboq]

Found it! In case people find it interesting.

As for you reading me as a cop, I have something I should confess. At the end of the last day phase, I was honestly trying to fake being a pr.

For what it matters, if my role conflicted with NLR's role here, I would not counterclaim,

because this lynch is obvious to me, and it is not worth getting an actual PR killed in order to confirm that NLR is scum.

Also, just to be clear,

THIS IS NOT A COUNTERCLAIM.

I was hoping this would be read as "wink wink nudge nudge, I'm actually the cop, I KNOW that NLR is lying." I was hoping scum would kill me in the night, and that the pr would survive. I was even expecting to die, and posted some last words in case I did.

I don't know if faking being the pr is something that town normally does here, because this is my first game on mafiascum, but I was confident that it was the right play to make. It has the benefit of protecting the actual pr if scum believes me, and has the benefit of convincing town that we are right to move forward with the lynch if town believes me.

So fakeclaiming as a cop when you're a townie.

thats stupid, just going to say that right now. Don't ever do this again.

For the record, I also tried to make it look like I was a PR in order to bait a kill. It's only a smart move to try and muddle the waters in a situation like that where you want to keep PRs alive. In hindsight, knowing that scum probably tried to kill me night 1, it was likely they wouldn't have targeted me either way in case I was protected by Doctor or Jailkeeper again.

There's a major difference between outright fakeclaiming a power role and causing the real one to counterclaim, and dropping subtle red herrings that only scum have an absolute need to be looking for anyway. And with NLR's Jailkeeper claim at L-1 already out there, there was no harm to be had in what either of us did.

No I think what Podo was doing was smart. It looked like he was trying to bait out the kill in a sneaky way scum would notice but town wouldn't dig into.

[podoboq]

sorry I got in a car accident last night, hospital post, will be out later today sorry.

Hope you're alright, dude. Real life is always more important than mafia.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ya I'm good, leaving the hospital in the morning, on a lot of morphine so I'm not doing any modding and not much playing, kinda staygin over in gd

[Malakittens]

hugs<3 gad u r ok ^^^

[Marquis]

I think at this point I want to sheep the consensus of Mala and Cakez?

[dramonic]

By which you mean... what, podo votes?

[Malakittens]

i might be k w/ a flubber lynch btw

[pistachi0n]

Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway

This is stalling, and anti town.

[dramonic]

How novel and unexpected

[Mirhawk]

Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway

Which is exactly what the SK would say if they were doing that so I'm pretty much going to assume you're a SK if you claim Vig later.

Also if you have a role that will autotown you what possible use is there in hiding it now? Scum have three confirmed town to kill already, throwing a fourth on the pile certainly won't hurt the situation.

We need to start wrapping this up.

[SirCakez]

I think at this point I want to sheep the consensus of Mala and Cakez?

I don't really think we have a consensus
Pls do some of your magic that caught Skybird earlier

Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway

This is stalling, and anti town.

Idk if I said this earlier but I wouldn't try to fake being Vig with my NKs as SK
This doesn't really matter anyway because my role claim will basically conftown me anyway

Which is exactly what the SK would say if they were doing that so I'm pretty much going to assume you're a SK if you claim Vig later.

Also if you have a role that will autotown you what possible use is there in hiding it now? Scum have three confirmed town to kill already, throwing a fourth on the pile certainly won't hurt the situation.

We need to start wrapping this up.

I'm not the Vig ffs

I've talked about why I don't want to claim like five bazillion times

[Mirhawk]

CAKEZ DO SOMETHING OTHER THEN BE UNHELPFUL AND SCUMMY.

You've got to be either the vig, the roleblocker/jailkeeper, or the one responsible for the wig nonsense. None of those will autotown you, and none of those are even particularly important to hide at this point either.

Also do something other then sit there with your thumb up your butt.

[Mirhawk]

You say you think you know what Cerbs role is and that it makes him scummy, but you don't want to tell us what it is or why he's scummy. Thanks a lot.

You both say your flavor is related to someone else's, but are still refusing to say what or why for -reasons-. It is by the way painfully obvious to everyone that you're talking about each other here.

Everyone's keeping secrets for stupid reasons and it's driving me nuts.

[itlepip]

hi guys, let's lynch someone soon k?

[podoboq]

You say you think you know what Cerbs role is and that it makes him scummy, but you don't want to tell us what it is or why he's scummy. Thanks a lot.

You both say your flavor is related to someone else's, but are still refusing to say what or why for -reasons-. It is by the way painfully obvious to everyone that you're talking about each other here.

Everyone's keeping secrets for stupid reasons and it's driving me nuts.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's extra annoying to me, because not only am I pretty sure that I'm getting lynched today over this problematic nightmare, but it means I won't be around to provide any analysis on his eventual claim. Like, I've been trying to spend my last day before my flip doing some game solving so that I can provide something after I'm lynched, but Cakez refuses to talk. Assuming I get lynched today, can town please focus some attention on Cakez? I think he's our SK, and if he's not, with this behavior I'd still think he's scum.

[podoboq]

hi guys, let's lynch someone soon k?

What's with the rush? We have almost four days. I'd like to use that time to get some information into the game.

[itlepip]

I'm bored.

[podoboq]

I'm bored.

That's fair

[dramonic]

You've got to be either the vig, the roleblocker/jailkeeper, or the one responsible for the wig nonsense.

That is one REALLY FAULTY ASSUMPTION

[Mirhawk]

Maybe a little faulty, but I wouldnt say really faulty.

The Wigger and the SK have to exist. The RB only doesn't exist if Ogre was lying about getting no results, and claiming flavor cop when he wasn't one would have been a pretty bad play for scum in a game that could conceivably go on for some time. He would have had to prove it some time, and there wasn't really any reason for scum to pretend to be blocked if they weren't.

Admittedly, there are three possible roles between four people though. And there is the possibility that someone lied about their role when claiming (coughPipercough).

[dramonic]

piper, mala, you, podo, myself, cakez, flubber, cerb all have either no public proof of role, or in flubber's case no proof of not having a one-shot wig/rb.
So.. really faulty.

[dramonic]

add itle to that list.

[Rob14]

bump