Newbie 1717: Newbies Through the Looking Glass (Game Over)

[Xalxe]

Newbie 1717

Newbies Through the Looking Glass

"Someone has stolen two of my taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarts!" The Red Queen's shouts echo through the halls of the castle. The nine of you look at each other nervously. Then the shouting begins.

Game Status

: Game Over

Deadline

:

Player List

Postie

,

rep.

Mizzytastic

*

Simoyd

Harkonnen97

,

rep.

Meepo

*

Titus

,

rep.

Grace

*

Lycanfire

RadiantCowbells

(SE)

BlankFace

,

rep.

snoe

(SE),

rep.

Pants98

* (SE)

innocentvillager

(SE)

Accountant

(IC)

Spoiler: Living Players

BlankFace

,

rep.

snoe

(SE),

rep.

Pants98

* (SE)

innocentvillager

(SE)

Spoiler: Dead Players

Accountant (IC),

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 1

Titus

,

rep.

Grace

*

,

Doctor

, Killed Night 1

Simoyd,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 2

RadiantCowbells

(SE),

Tracker

, Killed Night 2

Postie,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 3

Harkonnen97

,

Vanilla Townie

, Killed in the Endgame

Lycanfire

,

Vanilla Townie

, Killed in the Endgame

Game Links

Day 1

: Start, End

Day 2

: Start, End

Day 3

: Start, End

[Xalxe]

Game Rules

Adapted and distilled from various moderators

Wheaton's Law

Don't be a dick.

Remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun. Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game. Playing to win does not preclude being considerate of each other!

I have a low tolerance for personal attacks in this game. I reserve the right to warn you publicly or privately and to remove you from the game at any time. When in doubt, see Wheaton's Law.

General Rules/Game Etiquette

1. This game will start with a Day phase.
   
2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins. It is not permitted otherwise during day phases.
   
3. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable. When in doubt, ask me. I don't bite!
   
4. Please remember that you made a commitment to participate when you signed up to play. If you cannot fulfill this commitment, please contact the Mod and request a replacement instead of just disappearing! I won't hate you, I promise.
   
5. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
   If someone contacts you outside the game you should report it to me IMMEDIATELY.

Activity/Prods/Replacements

1. You should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.
   
2. Prods of missing players will be issued upon request or after 2 real-life days of no activity.
   
3. A prodded player has 48 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
   
4. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
   
5. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please PM the Mod so that you don’t get replaced! However, if it is an extended period of time I may replace you anyway, so check first.

Deadlines

1. All Newbie games have strict 2-week deadlines.
   
2. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances. Not "extreme" like "woah dude, that gnarly flip was so extreme," but "extreme" like "woah dude, that tsunami that wiped out the servers was so extreme."
   
3. Nights will have a standard deadline of 72 hours.
   
4. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you may forfeit your actions.
   
5. Deadlines may be shortened if activity is too low, or if all Night choices have been received early.

Player Actions/Voting/Player Death

1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Lynch will occur.
   
2. Votes should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
   Vote: Player
   ). Vote tags are your friend and are much sexier, trust me.
   
3. Vote revocations should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
   Unvote: Player
   or
   Unvote
   ). Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
   
4. You may
   Vote: No Lynch
   - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
   
5. Votes/Unvotes should be placed on a line all by themselves to make them easier for everyone to see.
   
6. Votes/Unvotes that reasonably follow the guidelines specified above, and are unambiguous with respect to player nicknames/abbreviations, will count. Attempting to fake a vote will result in a Modkill.
   
7. Once a player has reached a simple majority of votes no further unvoting will change their fate. Muahahahaha.
   
8. When a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players may continue to post.
   
9. If you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post except for a brief “Bah!”-type post that contains NO game related information. It may include up to one (1) picture of a cute animal.
   
10. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
    
11. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.

Miscellaneous

1. Mech and ooc text is reserved for the Mod. Do not use either of these; ooc will be used when I edit your posts. No invisible/small/encrypted text is allowed.
   
2. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM me privately. Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread. I don't bite. If you aren't comfortable taking the issue to me, send it up the chain to Mina.
   
3. The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game. If I fuck up too badly I'll buy you all a cookie or something.
   
4. Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.
   
   
5. Rules violations will be dealt with according to their severity (up to and including a Modkill) as the Mod sees fit.
   
6. Modkills may be accompanied by a change to day/night. The offender’s role will be changed to Neutral Survivor, which guarantees a loss.
   
7. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to Mod discretion and will be handled as the Mod sees fit on a case-by-case basis.

Sexy and Helpful Links:

• Main Wiki Page
  
• Newbie Guide
  
• Frequently Asked Questions
  
• Commonly Used Abbreviations
  
• Mafia Theory
  
• Main Forum Rules and Guidelines

[Xalxe]

Newbie Setup

Matrix6 (as designed by Cogito Ergo Sum)

	A	B	C
1	Town Jailkeeper	Vanilla Townie	Mafia Goon
2	Mafia Roleblocker	Town Cop	Town Doctor
3	Town 1-shot Bulletproof	Mafia Goon	Town Tracker

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates either one row or one column. The remaining six roles will be filled in by mafia goons and vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup. For example Row 1 (1 jailkeeper, 1 vanilla townie, 1 mafia goon) would add an additional 5 vanilla townies and 1 mafia goon, for a total setup of 1 jailkeeper, 6 vanilla townies, and 2 mafia goons.

*Roleblocker will take precedence over jailkeeper when resolving night actions should that apply.

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

Town Cop

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

Town Doctor

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

1-shot Bulletproof Townie

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

You will survive 1 kill attempt during the game. This does not include lynches.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

Town Tracker

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player they targeted with their action, if any.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

Mafia Goon

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon/Roleblocker

.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional QT, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome to Newbie XXXX, yournamehere!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional QT, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by sending me your favorite quote from a TV show, movie, other form of media or famous person.

[Xalxe]

I will now begin to send out Role PMs. Please confirm as described in the PM. Day 1 will begin when 7/9 players have confirmed.

EDIT: All Role PMs have now been sent out.

[Xalxe]

With 7/9 confirmations, Day 1 has begun!

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-06-22 07:25:57)

[Mizzytastic]

VOTE: innocentvillager

They're called Vanilla Townies. You shoulda checked before fakeclaiming, scum!

[Meepo]

So we randomly vote to get discussion going?

[Mizzytastic]

If you want. Oooooor, you could vote obvscum innocentvillager with me!

[Meepo]

It was a nice try to make me bandwagon on innocent villager.
VOTE: Mizzytastic

[Accountant]

VOTE: innocentvillager

His scumbuddy is Meepo - casting shade on Mizzy's wagon by using the word "random" to imply it's without justification. He follows it up with a classic chainsaw defense of innocentvillager. I think that's enough to wrap up the game. Sorry, scum members. I know you tried, but you lost the moment you drew the opposite alignment as me.

[Accountant]

Everyone please sheep the IC. They know best.

Hi, I’m Accountant, your friendly neighbourhood Inexperience-Challenged player, or IC. This means that I have a few games under my belt, so I know the ins and outs of mafia and can show you the ropes. For those of you who hate reading long rants, or have read a similar post already, check out the link:
A Beginner’s Guide to Being Awesome At Mafia
Anyway, as the IC, it’s my job to teach you theory concepts, which means I will never lie about theory questions. When I answer those questions, I will be typing in this color (red), so you know I’m wearing my IC hat and not my <insert alignment here> hat.
Before we start the game proper, I’d like to cover a few key concepts.

Hammering, Lynching and L-1

When the number of votes on a player exceeds half the number of players for that game, that player is lynched

instantly

and the Day ends. For example, we have 9 players. If that means the hammer is 5, so if there were to be 5 votes on someone, that player would be lynched. Do not recklessly hammer, especially early in the game, or you’ll risk accidentally lynching town members and cutting short discussion time.
The concept of L-X is used to indicate how many votes a player is to hammer. L-1 means 1 vote to hammer, L-2 means 2 votes to hammer and so forth. So for this game, if someone were to get 4 votes, they would be at L-1. When you place the vote that puts someone at L-1(for example, if someone has 3 votes and you’re putting the 4th vote down, with a hammer of 5), you should usually announce it with a statement like “He’s at L-1”, so people don’t accidentally hammer. Even more importantly, it means that mafia can’t hammer a town member and then claim ignorance the next day.
If someone is at L-1 and you want to hammer him, you should usually state “intent to hammer”, which means “I want to lynch you”. When you do this, you can also ask for a role claim. That way, if the player is a power role being mislynched, he can claim before you place the hammering vote, and thus save himself.

LyLo

LyLo is the shortened form of a phrase which means “lynch or lose”. The simplest form of LyLo is 3 players, 2 of whom are vanilla townies and the last being a mafia goon. Then, it’s easy to see that if they do not lynch, the mafia goon will kill one of them at night, stalemating the lynch the next day, and killing the last town member on Night 2 – although the mod will usually recognize this and end the game early instead of dragging it out.
When town is in LyLo, it’s important not to carelessly vote like you would on any other day, because of the potential for a mafia coordinated hammer(a “quickhammer”, happening before anyone else can react). Let’s say we have LyLo with 3 Vanilla Townies and 2 Mafia Goons. One of the vanilla townie carelessly puts his vote on another VT. This allows the two mafia goons to instantly rush in and simultaneously vote that VT, bringing his vote count to 3 in a game of 5 players, which is a hammer and loss for the town.
It’s good practice to try to recognize LyLo situations when you see them, but in Newbie games a more experienced player will usually point out that it’s LyLo and caution people from recklessly voting. Learning how to deal with LyLo is a very important part of playing mafia, and it comes up more often than you might think.

RVS

We are currently in the RVS, or Random Voting Stage. As none of us has any idea who is mafia(well, except the mafia members themselves, but they’re hardly going to admit it), we’re mostly poking around and slinging votes like hot curry at a food fight, trying to provoke reactions, start a discussion and basically probe around to try and determine player’s alignments.
As it is the

Random

Voting Stage, it’s common for players to vote for very silly reasons, such as “your avatar is ugly” or “your username has too many numbers in it”. Don’t worry, they don’t have a grudge against you or anything. It’s just part of RVS. Without RVS, it would be a lot harder to get the game moving.

Conclusion

Thank you for joining this newbie game, and I hope that all of us will have fun playing, win or lose. If you have any questions at all, feel free to ask me. I’m an IC, so it’s my job to be active and respond to questions from newer players. I live in Singapore, which makes my timezone GMT+8, so don’t be surprised if I answer in the middle of the night or appear to be inactive at high noon(I’m probably sleeping).

Have fun and good luck!

- Accountant

[Grace]

VOTE: Accountant

You seem to be drawing away the attention from Mizzy inculpating Meepo, saying he's working with innocentvillager, being both of them scum. That's suspicious. Makes me think that maybe you're just extrapolating your asociation with Mizzy, which would imply that both you and Mizzy are scum!

[Accountant]

That makes no sense Grace. I said Meepo was scum with innocentvillager, so how exactly am I drawing attention away from Mizzy accusing Meepo? In fact, I'm drawing attention to that fact by putting a spotlight on Meepo and giving meat to Mizzy's accusations. I think your suspicions are unfounded, sorry.

Makes me think that maybe you're just extrapolating your asociation with Mizzy

To extrapolate means, broadly, to infer an unknown from something that is known. If I had an association with Mizzy, it would hardly be unknown to me, so I couldn't possibly extrapolate that. You need to be clearer on what exactly you think I'm doing with Mizzy.

[Grace]

I was just trying to sound clever, now I'll keep my vote on you for exposing my stupidity ;_;

[Accountant]

What do you have to hide, Grace? I have a far easier time reading people when they're natural and let their thoughts flow freely rather than constructing their sentences artificially to try to

seem

a certain way. That's a very mafia thing to do.

[Accountant]

Since you said the reason your vote was still on me was because I "exposed" you, does that mean you acknowledge that your accusation of me drawing attention away from Mizzy accusing Meepo had no merit?

[Grace]

Now that it's known that I'm no brainy, I don't have to pretend. My vote on you was completely random, but I see you as a dangerous player capable of manipulating us all, and now I do think you're a member of the mafia, and I don't want this town to start killing each other because of forced accusations made by scum.

[Accountant]

Now that it's known that I'm no brainy, I don't have to pretend

I was just trying to sound clever

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Were you attempting to sound clever or not? This isn't a jibe at your intelligence; it's a legitimate issue if you're going around trying to sell us a certain image of yourself artificially.

I see you as a dangerous player capable of manipulating us all

I agree. I

could

manipulate you all, but I won't, because I'm town. My capability to manipulate people has absolutely nothing to do with the role card the moderator sent me. It isn't as if he mind-scans the players to see who's the most manipulative and then sends mafia PMs to the most manipulative players.

now I do think you're a member of the mafia

Can you explain clearly why you think so?

I don't want this town to start killing each other because of forced accusations made by scum

I don't either. What made you think my vote on Meepo was a "forced accusation" and stemming from a scum motive?

[Grace]

I said I was trying to sound clever with my first accusation, which I clarified later was completely random, and then I insisted on the fact that I'm not clever.

I don't think you're a mafia member because you're manipulative. I think you are a mafia member, I just do, I don't trust you. And then, if I'm right about thinking so, you'd be really dangerous and we should lynch you before you get to make us vote for an innocent villager.

You took every single thing Meepo said and turned it against him and innocentvillager, and for me that seems a bit forced.

[Accountant]

I just do, I don't trust you.

Unfortunately, that kind of reasoning won't quite cut it. Isn't it a little hypocritical of you to accuse me of making forced accusations when your own accusations(against me) are backed by no reasoning at all?

And then, if I'm right about thinking so, you'd be really dangerous and we should lynch you before you get to make us vote for an innocent villager.

What makes you so confident I am a mafia member this early in the game? After all, if I am town and you lynch me, then you have lynched a dangerous player who was on your side. Why didn't you consider this?

You took every single thing Meepo said and turned it against him and innocentvillager, and for me that seems a bit forced.

I don't think it was forced. I think Meepo's words were inherently suspicious, all I did was point out how weird it was that he was chainsaw defending a random player in RVS - something that you yourself are guilty of. If Meepo had good intentions, then excellent. Let him come into here and explain himself before the eyes of 14 of his peers. He certainly doesn't need you to defend him.

[Meepo]

Wait , are we serious on day 1? Because i was not and my vote is random. I also thought accountant was joking around in his reply to me.

[Grace]

Wait , are we serious on day 1? Because i was not and my vote is random. I also thought accountant was joking around in his reply to me.

I wasn't serious on my accusation either, to be honest, but Accountant seems to be really worried... Isn't that suspicious?

[Accountant]

VOTE: Grace

Joking around early D1 is normal, but it's only natural to become serious when scum makes a slip up like Grace did. She became more and more desperate under pressure and eventually cracked with #21, ignoring all my questions in favor for an appeal to... I'm not sure what she's appealing to, but it's not logic.

[Meepo]

I don't think you're a mafia member because you're manipulative. I think you are a mafia member, I just do, I don't trust you. And then, if I'm right about thinking so, you'd be really dangerous and we should lynch you before you get to make us vote for an innocent villager.

Sounds pretty serious

[Accountant]

Grace, why did you lie about the seriousness of your accusation?