Open 644: Stack the Deck - Game Over

[KuroiXHF]

I told you already. You're not getting shit from me today.

[PantherPunt]

I told you already. You're not getting shit from me today.

lol

I'll just requote everything for you tomorrow. Have a nice day.

[Chip Butty]

So to summarize:

Because you're pushing me and demand something now after I repeatedly told you no, you're not getting anything today.

You're getting lynched.

I want to save you for tomorrow though because I want the juicy filet that is your pal Ranger first

I have to say that, when I read this, scum v scum jumped out at me.

@[ploben, Dunstrall, duppen, Panther, Kuroi, Scott]: At least three of you are Town, so please - pretty please with sugar on top - please start posting like it, 'kay?

@Florestan: You need to pick up your game too, if you are Town. Your reads are upside down.

[Chip Butty]

By "scum v scun" I meant Panther v Kuroi...

[Chip Butty]

You're not getting shit from me today.

Yeah, we are. The problem is, we're not getting anything else.

[PantherPunt]

By "scum v scun" I meant Panther v Kuroi...

You flatter me

[Florestan]

Chip Buddy, let's say you're right. Let's say it wasn't a joke and Ploben was claiming innocent child. If this makes Ploben scum and Dunnstral scum as defending Ploben in this case, and then I chime in ALSO saying it's a joke, then you found your three scum.

I'm starting to think you haven't really read through the thread. I mean, it was well in excess of 600 posts at that point. Lot of reading to do at work. Must have been tempting to skim, eh?

The reason I say that is because you seem to be ignorant of how the "IC joke" thing developed. I certainly haven't accused everyone who interpreted it as a joke. But I HAVE been suspicious of those who strongly and persistently kept up the joke defense right from early in the game. Why? Because it would have been far Townier to just let ploben deal with the pressure for a while, and see how he reacted. Trying to hose it down right away looks scummy to me, especially since the only active wagon was on karnos, and that most because karnos also picked up on the "IC joke" as being a slip. What was the urgency in hosing it down? Day lasts for 14 days. Plenty of time to let it play out. So, yeah, Dunstrall and duppen come out of that looking scummy to me. duppen more so, btw.

no. The IC joke was always a joke. To you and Karnos, claiming IC is entirely meaningless since the way that you claim IC is by revealing, so all 'I'm an IC' that isn't supported by the mod is a joke.

So to summarize:

Because you're pushing me and demand something now after I repeatedly told you no, you're not getting anything today.

Kuroi went down a lot in the last few pages, ftr. I don't like the way he is avoiding this.

So to summarize:

Because you're pushing me and demand something now after I repeatedly told you no, you're not getting anything today.

You're getting lynched.

I want to save you for tomorrow though because I want the juicy filet that is your pal Ranger first

I have to say that, when I read this, scum v scum jumped out at me.

@[ploben, Dunstrall, duppen, Panther, Kuroi, Scott]: At least three of you are Town, so please - pretty please with sugar on top - please start posting like it, 'kay?

@Florestan: You need to pick up your game too, if you are Town. Your reads are upside down.

1. No it didn't.
2.I feel like this proves that you can't read people well, I think 4 of them clearly have (funnily enough the first four)
3.See the previous point, they clearly aren't. Just because you know you are town doesn't mean that your reads are better than mine. I can't meta but this Ranger feels really scummy to me; I am debating moving to Kuroi for today and giving Ranger a little more time to do stuff since I read a few games where Ranger was super obvtown. (Almost got lynched but still was obvtown).

Also Chip read my newbie and tell me how this isn't just a townier Panther than that.

[KuroiXHF]

Florestan, I think this is the first time we've met, so I'll give you a bit of info about me: I move at my own pace. I'm active and I answer questions, but if I'm being pushed every single post to do something I said I'd do later, I won't do it. If you objectively read those posts, you'll see that.

[ploben]

Here is an analogy-

billyb "I am not sure if john is a scum or not, but i'll check him out tonight with my gun and badge and let you know tomorrow"

newbietom "Hey, billyb is lying, he isn't the cop, I am the cop!"

billyb "it was just a joke? don't lynch me"

Did this conversation take place in RVS or middle of the game?

[ploben]

@[ploben, Dunstrall, duppen, Panther, Kuroi, Scott]: At least three of you are Town, so please - pretty please with sugar on top - please start posting like it, 'kay?

[ploben]

Where I'm at at this point:
OK with lynching D1 = Chip, Ranger, Kuroi

[karnos]

Did this conversation take place in RVS or middle of the game?

I said what I had to say, I don't want to restart that argument again today.

[ploben]

Did this conversation take place in RVS or middle of the game?

I said what I had to say, I don't want to restart that argument again today.

Well see context matters a lot here. Because if your analogy takes place in the middle of the game, that's one thing and that is totally different than what actually happened in this game, which took place in RVS.

[PantherPunt]

Where I'm at at this point:
OK with lynching D1 = Chip, Ranger, Kuroi

did you read my spoilered post on Chip?

I like the other two scum reads, obviously

[Florestan]

Also All IC Claims Are Jokes

[ploben]

I get the need to move past the specific IC joke events but my point is you can't just say something, get called out on it's validity, and then just throw your hands up and say you don't want to talk about it. Karnos just did this. And the fact it's still his case on me is ridiculous.

[ploben]

Why does Ranger make sense if Chip and Karnos are town? It's just not instantly occurring to me.

I think I'm an easy mislynch today so scum could vote me with that stupid IC thing as justification. If the first two voters on my wagon are town then Ranger coming in as 3rd is a good spot for scum to park their vote on a townie.

You have 3 votes, 7 are required to lynch. If ranger is scum, then you need the other two scum plus 2 townies to vote you in addition to the votes you already have. I think your fear of being quick lynched is unfounded. Town should understand that hammering without delay shows as incredibly scummy, and scum wouldn't trade a scum life for one lynch.

I don't follow your "You have 3 votes, 7 are required to lynch. If ranger is scum, then you need the other two scum plus 2 townies to vote you in addition to the votes you already have."

I never said anything about a quick lynch. I said easy mislynch.

[ploben]

Is it me? Am I just that stupid that I'm missing something? Why is it every time Karnos posts about me I read his posts as twisting and misrepping me or just not factually based?

[PantherPunt]

Dunnstral

141

ploben

127

Chip Butty

122
PantherPunt 118

karnos

80

Ranger

41

Florestan

34

KuroiXHF

31

duppin

30
Persivul 24

BTD6_maker

18

Shadow_step

14

AlpacaAlpaca 7

Scott Brosius

4

deep green is most confident
other green is just town read
that light lime on florestan is the lightest of leans; I have a plan to sure this up...I think
gold is nullish shadow gets major town equity when/if kuroi flips scum. Scott...idfk he hasn't played in like 3 years but even back then he lowposts like this either alignment. so I hope forthcoming posts are at least jampacked with content/opinions...just need more
orange scum reads but with room to escape...not locked in...yet
red, outed scum imho

[Persivul]

Votecount 1.10

karnos (3) - duppin, BTD6, scott brosius
Ploben (3) - chip butty, karnos, ranger
KuroiXHF (1) - shadow
Ranger (3) - pantherpunt, florestan, dunnstral
Chip Butty (2) - ploben, kuroi

Not voting (0) -

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

(expired on 2016-06-19 07:30:00) remain until day end

[PantherPunt]

Where I'm at at this point:
OK with lynching D1 = Chip, Ranger, Kuroi

did you read my spoilered post on Chip?

I like the other two scum reads, obviously

also, you're voting chip with kuroi

I'd love Ranger and kuroi wagons so you going back to kuroi would be cool

[karnos]

Why does Ranger make sense if Chip and Karnos are town? It's just not instantly occurring to me.

I think I'm an easy mislynch today so scum could vote me with that stupid IC thing as justification. If the first two voters on my wagon are town then Ranger coming in as 3rd is a good spot for scum to park their vote on a townie.

You have 3 votes, 7 are required to lynch. If ranger is scum, then you need the other two scum plus 2 townies to vote you in addition to the votes you already have. I think your fear of being quick lynched is unfounded. Town should understand that hammering without delay shows as incredibly scummy, and scum wouldn't trade a scum life for one lynch.

I don't follow your "You have 3 votes, 7 are required to lynch. If ranger is scum, then you need the other two scum plus 2 townies to vote you in addition to the votes you already have."

I never said anything about a quick lynch. I said easy mislynch.

You said easy mislynch

today

.

Today implying a quick lynch, can't really get lynched today slowly.

[Shadow_step]

Will catchup properly tomorrow.
Nothing Kuroi has said makes me want to move my vote off of him tbh.

Him sort of asking me to not scum read the slot because he replaced Alpaca and will post more was weird AF.

[karnos]

I get the need to move past the specific IC joke events but my point is you can't just say something, get called out on it's validity, and then just throw your hands up and say you don't want to talk about it. Karnos just did this. And the fact it's still his case on me is ridiculous.

If you want to talk about it, respond to the dozens and dozens of posts I made on it already. #425 & #439 for a start.

[PantherPunt]

Karnos and chip

Can I know where each of you stand on ranger, kuroi, and btd

(Chip I think you told Dunn you'd get to this so pardon me if I somehow missed it..just link me)