Open 644: Stack the Deck - Game Over

[Ranger]

I'm thinking at this point, most people currently on me are just looking for any possible reason to get me lynched.

This is a description of the players voting Ranger, not you.

There does seem to be an overlap, though!

Imagine that.

[PantherPunt]

I've already answered this in 775.

Grow up

[PantherPunt]

I'm thinking at this point, most people currently on me are just looking for any possible reason to get me lynched.

This is a description of the players voting Ranger, not you.

There does seem to be an overlap, though!

Imagine that.

Hey in this world you're yelling about where you're town and all three scum are pushing you...it's an objective fact multiple town are reading you as scum too. What say you?

Maybe it's a you-problem and not an everyone-else-problem huh?

[Ranger]

Hey in this world you're yelling about where you're town and all three scum are pushing you...it's an objective fact multiple town are reading you as scum too. What say you?

Multiple?
Do tell.

I count one.

[PantherPunt]

Hey in this world you're yelling about where you're town and all three scum are pushing you...it's an objective fact multiple town are reading you as scum too. What say you?

Multiple?
Do tell.

I count one.

I count 6 total

Panther
Dunnstral
Florestan
Duppin
Ploben
All think you're scum. Kuroi too, vocally, but unvoted because "even if you're scum you're pro town and competent" lolwat

[KuroiXHF]

That's the most accurate description of me you've made all game. Congratulations.

It's just a shame you don't understand it.

[Dunnstral]

Oh, I am dead serious.
Point it out.
Every one.
Use a spoiler tag if you're concerned about length.

I don't see the need. Everyone else can already see you use self-meta and I'm not about to spend 30 minutes explaining to you how you're using self-meta

[PantherPunt]

That's the most accurate description of me you've made all game. Congratulations.

It's just a shame you don't understand it.

I was reiterating your reason for unvoting ranger

By looking at other games you seem like you have a solid town game. I'd like to play a future game with you where you're town for sure

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral, do you think I've still hard slipped?

No

I did ask if it was possible I had misunderstood after all, which is what seems to have happened. Trying to twist it into me pushing on you is a stretch.

I'm thinking at this point, most people currently on me are just looking for any possible reason to get me lynched.

As in...

If I say something that could possibly be construed as if I said something scummy or contradicted myself or double backed, they'll take it that way.

However...

If I say something that is townie, it's not factored in.

I actually want to say I've done more scum hunting than many others, despite the fact that I've only relatively recently joined in. I'm actually certain some are hiding in the shadows. When I have more time tomorrow, I'll dig deeper.

OK Kuroi

Where, in your opinion, is something towny you said that was looked over?

[Chip Butty]

Also who are your scum reads? Besides Chip mostly. What are your thoughts on Ranger and Kuroi

Where I'm at at this point:
OK with lynching D1 = Chip,

Ranger

, Kuroi

Let's see what Ranger has to say about all this content since her last post.

How many times does she get to do that

Good point.

I'm just less willing to jump on her at this point then some other players are right now without hearing her catch up

.

Also, she promised a case against me so I am reserving some judgement until then also. Let's see how "original" her case is against me.

Unless of course she says she won't present her case until D1 deadline, then I'll reconsider in a more timely manner.

Chip- you can read someone town even if they incorrectly read you as scum. you just have to determine if you think they believe, truly believe, what they are selling. Having original points and perspectives that show critical thinking rather than parroting what others have already said is a component of that. 841 is a silly post

Would it have hurt so very much to let the guy answer for himself? This looks like scum jumping in to save a scumbuddy before he says something stupid.

Oh Chip.

I just want to see what Ranger says before I consider IF I will support her wagon.

I can get behind Kuroi's now based on his posts, I can't fully get behind Ranger's yet.

So, in his #828, ploben says he is fine with lynching Ranger, quoting his own #785. Then, just ten posts later, he forgets that he's done that and tries for the "voice of reason" approach, which he repeats in #850.

Scum.

I sense fear in the air. Scum fear of Ranger. Look hard at those who are working to build the wagon on Ranger, not merely those who happen to be on it presently. ploben, Panther. Dunstral.

duppin and Kuroi are looking a little less scummy than those three now. Kuroi is starting to look like an easy mislynch.

[Chip Butty]

People are posting so much in this game I almost suspect scum spamming.

Hmm...I wonder.

Ranger 45
KuroiXHF 36

Dunnstral 162

PantherPunt (A REPLACEMENT!) 137

duppin 33

ploben 150

BTD6_maker 20
Chip Butty 130
Florestan 35
karnos 82
Shadow_step 15
Persivul 25
Scott Brosius 4
AlpacaAlpaca

Nope, there couldn't

possibly

be

any

trend here, whatsoever. Clearly this means nothing. I mean, surely there's ABSOLUTELY no trend there, right? It's not like the active posters could be scum or anything.

You know, in every game I have played in since my very first, I am or have been the leading poster, usually by a wide margin. It's part of my meta, and I have done it as both Town and scum. But here, there is not just one player surpassing me in VC, but THREE. And, surprise, surprise, it's the three scummiest. The leaderboard: Dunstral (181); Panther (171); ploben (151); Chip Butty (131); karnos (84).

It's real. There's an old saying where I play "sort by post count become werewolf expert"

Bc scum have a hard time making a lot of posts without fucking up. Without making a couple of howlers.

Lot easier when there are three of you doing it. Obvious plan to try to dominate proceeedings. Suggests strongly that Mafia recruited their traitor, since these three are all on the same page re:strategy.

[PantherPunt]

Lol @ theory (posed by scum ranger, just remember after we have some flips) that the top 3 posters are scum trying to run a narrative

That's probably why I kept telling ploben to leave you alone, huh chip?

I won't be in thread much today bc I have a golf outing and a dinner but I'll try to catch up late night or tomorrow

[Chip Butty]

Suggests strongly that Mafia recruited their traitor, since these three are all on the same page re:strategy.

Being on the same page also suggests daytalk.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to Townslip again: If Mafia recruit their traitor, do the three of them have an inital opportunity to converse prior to the start of D1? Because, if so, they wouldn't need daytalk to all be on the same page.

@ploben: How do you like that Townslip, huh? Wanna try to make that the basis of a vote on me, like you did the others?

[ploben]

So both Chip's and Ranger's scum circle is ploben, Panther, Dunnstral.

Karnos's is ploben and Dunnstral.

All 3 voting on me.

Either there is some pocketing going on in the 2 separate circles or two town circles are fighting against each other.

Based on last night (and still going on this morning) I think Panther and Chip are suffering from some confirmation bias, against separate targets of course.

[Chip Butty]

That's probably why I kept telling ploben to leave you alone, huh chip?

No, you did that because you want him to focus on Ranger.

[Chip Butty]

I think Panther and Chip are suffering from some confirmation bias, against separate targets of course.

Oh, so now you think I am Town again?

[ploben]

I'm not sure. I trusted Panther with his reads and he actually gave pretty good advice on basing reads off of associative reads.

[Chip Butty]

Hey, ploben, since you are here, how about replying to my #984?

[Chip Butty]

I'm not sure. I trusted Panther with his reads and he actually gave pretty good advice on basing reads off of associative reads.

Scum typically don't have a problem with confbias LOL, so if you think I am confbiased, you think I am Town. So why did you say you are okay with voting me?

[ploben]

But I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around your intent here Chip. Part of your game seems to be trying to make a big deal about town slips and dumb tells. I just feel as town a player wouldn't need to push that agenda, they would let other players pick up on that and decide for themselves.

[Florestan]

People are posting so much in this game I almost suspect scum spamming.

Hmm...I wonder.

Ranger 45
KuroiXHF 36

Dunnstral 162

PantherPunt (A REPLACEMENT!) 137

duppin 33

ploben 150

BTD6_maker 20
Chip Butty 130
Florestan 35
karnos 82
Shadow_step 15
Persivul 25
Scott Brosius 4
AlpacaAlpaca

Nope, there couldn't

possibly

be

any

trend here, whatsoever. Clearly this means nothing. I mean, surely there's ABSOLUTELY no trend there, right? It's not like the active posters could be scum or anything.

You know, in every game I have played in since my very first, I am or have been the leading poster, usually by a wide margin. It's part of my meta, and I have done it as both Town and scum. But here, there is not just one player surpassing me in VC, but THREE. And, surprise, surprise, it's the three scummiest. The leaderboard: Dunstral (181); Panther (171); ploben (151); Chip Butty (131); karnos (84).

It's real. There's an old saying where I play "sort by post count become werewolf expert"

Bc scum have a hard time making a lot of posts without fucking up. Without making a couple of howlers.

Lot easier when there are three of you doing it. Obvious plan to try to dominate proceeedings. Suggests strongly that Mafia recruited their traitor, since these three are all on the same page re:strategy.

No, again, this just isn't a tell. Stop just blatantly sheeping Ranger and

Tell why you think Ranger is Town

Suggests strongly that Mafia recruited their traitor, since these three are all on the same page re:strategy.

Being on the same page also suggests daytalk.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to Townslip again: If Mafia recruit their traitor, do the three of them have an inital opportunity to converse prior to the start of D1? Because, if so, they wouldn't need daytalk to all be on the same page.

@ploben: How do you like that Townslip, huh? Wanna try to make that the basis of a vote on me, like you did the others?

First, stop assuming you have 100% solved the game, second townslops are either really towny or really scummy, so it is a reasonable thing to vote someone for.

Pedit: Also not true.

[ploben]

984 is silly. Town has no fear of reconsidering the game and players. Scum should because their cases are BS so in their minds they think they need a to build a perfect case so they won't get scrutinized. I have no fear of reconsidering in this game because I am town.

[Shadow_step]

Panther, would you say your case on Ranger is stronger than the one on Kuroi?

[Shadow_step]

Spoiler:

So you're arguing that kuroi is town because Panther and I were pushing him?

Yes. BECAUSE,

There's only 3 scum in the game.

Of ^this. There's only three. I have a very, very,

very

strong {ploben, Dunnstral, PantherPunt} scumteam. It's not just individual posts, either, it's also your buddy-buddy reactions and trivial questions to each other that you never bother to follow through on. Given that, and your push on Kuroi, it's basically impossible for him to be scum, even though his posting contains basically nothing town.

I'll be honest - I'm a bit uncomfortable knowing that you're so confident that I'm scum. Again, when I go through the ISO.

lolwut
she is calling you town by process of elimination because she nailed the whole scumteam.
this is a super weird combination of Ranger defending kuroi by way of scumreading others "very, very,

very

strongly" and Kuroi turning around and distancing from Ranger

now to go back and dig into my pal Ranger's posts

'kay

glad you quoted this post and said 'kay instead of responding to the post dedicated to you that immediately follows it in 687. hope to see that response.

I guess I didn't see that post, but I didn't list my reasons for wanting for lynch him. Are you saying that because I list my reasons, I didn't have a reason?

Also, I stand by with what I said about Ranger. I find it strange that someone is so certain fo who scum are early on in this game. If she nailed all scum, then everyone else is scum by elimination, and she only mentioned me.

What? Ranger was calling you town. What does "If she nailed all scum, then everyone else is scum by elimination, and she only mentioned me." mean?

I'm sorry, but are we speaking the same language? This is English, right? I shouldn't have to ask this, but no one is understanding my clear message.

I understand that Ranger is calling me town.
I said that I was uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable because she was confident in this.

Now if she nailed all scum, that would mean that she got a hold of every other person not scum and called them town.

But she did it to me, and me only.

Do you understand now?

Do you?

This post is pathetic. Kuroi trying to make it look so much worse than it actually is.

[ploben]

Scott is due for a prod. We're coming up on 5 IRL days in this game and Scott has given literally nothing. He made a good point about an association in his last post but he's not contributed nearly enough. This makes him a danger to town in 2 ways: no good associations and we have no idea where he stands in the game and also makes an easy NK for scum leaving little to no info for town in D2.

VOTE: Scott Brosius