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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:05 pm

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In post 1097, KuroiXHF wrote:I've scum read Ranger and she hasn't attacked me.
She kind of did though, and she said you were scum if even one of me, Panther, ploben weren't (all your townreads ;) )

Regardless it looks like scum distancing between you two to me anyways
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:07 pm

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Also I like how you tried to pick apart my reasoning by focusing on one line out of many

I also like that you slipped up and forgot you were supposed to be scumreading ranger and white knighted her

Can you explain your scumread on Ranger then, Kuroi?
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:11 pm

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In post 1011, Ranger wrote:
Kuroi and duppin both look bad
, but the core three just look THAT much worse.
So Kuroi...Ranger didn't attack you? There's more, if you look through her ISO...
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:04 pm

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In post 1099, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 1097, KuroiXHF wrote:That's not true. I've scum read Ranger and she hasn't attacked me.

Also, I twisted my logic around. That's not the only symptom of scum. Chip's showing a different symptom - trying to cover his tracks.
Do tell. What tracks am I trying to cover? And how can "covering your tracks" even be a thing in a game where all your posts are preserved forever and visible to all players? That literally doesn't make any sense.
It is preserved forever, but God help if you aren't trying to change that. lol. Two words is all I need to ring the bell because it seems you've forgotten already - Innocent Child.
In post 1100, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1097, KuroiXHF wrote:I've scum read Ranger and she hasn't attacked me.
She kind of did though, and she said you were scum if even one of me, Panther, ploben weren't (all your townreads ;) )

Regardless it looks like scum distancing between you two to me anyways
I agree. It does look like that, but I don't think she attacked me at all.
In post 1101, Dunnstral wrote:Also I like how you tried to pick apart my reasoning by focusing on one line out of many

I also like that you slipped up and forgot you were supposed to be scumreading ranger and white knighted her

Can you explain your scumread on Ranger then, Kuroi?
Look in my ISO. It's there. I promise.
In post 1102, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 1011, Ranger wrote:
Kuroi and duppin both look bad
, but the core three just look THAT much worse.
So Kuroi...Ranger didn't attack you? There's more, if you look through her ISO...
LOL.
THAT'S
THE ATTACK?

Telling me that I look bad isn't an attack. It's her opinion. Attacking is what Panther's been doing to me all game. If she's been attacking any more, I'd be getting phone calls.

*Ring ring*
"H-hello?"
"Hey... Eh, what are you doing?"
"Well, I
was
sleeping."
"Well, you're talking to me on the phone... so, now you're not. Hey, where's that read list?"
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:06 pm

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Chip Butty wrote:I've been looking at BTD's ISO. Not good, I'm afraid.
Which is one reason he's a read I really want to hear more from before laying down my cases!

Once I lay down my cases, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall your attention will be on {Ranger, ploben, Dunnstral, PantherPunt}.

I don't want that yet.
I was slightly suspicious of her at the point the game ended.
Speaking of that game...it has a great deal of overlap in the playerlist!
  • Scott Brosius, scum that game, is acting basically the same. This was one reason I was suspicious of him.
  • karnos, town that game, is acting basically the same. (I even made almost the same towncase on him that game.) This is one reason I've been defending him.
  • Shadow_step, town that game, is playing similar, sort of. I more thought he was town than thought he was scum that game, so his game being similar here is promising.
karnos wrote:If we lynch him and he flips town, what do we actually gain?
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make an argument nothing can be gained by lynching duppin (though I'd argue there would be gain), and it's also not impossible to argue Scott isn't a productive lynch.
Quite the RANGE.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:11 pm

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ploben wrote:I kinda want to hammer...
^This means
L-2 on me should be treated as L-1
, so long as ploben is off the wagon.
Ploben wrote:The thing is, I know ranger isn't an asset to town even if town
Keep telling yourself that.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:18 pm

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Dunnstral wrote:Defensively talks about herself at slightest pressure
Show me.
Aggressively attacking people who scum read her (Except Florestan)
Already shown false, with the sole exception of PantherPunt, which is justified.
Goes on and on about other games, makes big walls of text that don't matter
Do explain.
In addition to above, self meta all day long (more time referencing self meta than this game!)
Prove it.
The associations between her, Kuroi, (and now possibly Ploben?) make her VERY likely to be mafia
Absolutely hypocritical given your interactions with Kuroi and ploben.
Also that theory that the 3 top posters are mafia spamming the thread is laughable and will be quoted in post-game/after flips
Again, I was not the originator of this theory. This is the second time I have had to say this.
Kuroi wrote:I've scum read Ranger and she hasn't attacked me.
Not so. I attacked you before you were even in the game. But see above, about how the point of me attacking people scumreading me is absolutely backwards.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:19 pm

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Just because you didn't come with a stupid theory doesn't mean you have to support it.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:20 pm

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Dunnstral wrote:she said you were scum if even one of me, Panther, ploben weren't
Wrong. I said Kuroi was a scmread, in spite of my three core scumreads.
I also said that if any of my core scumreads were wrong, Kuroi would be scum.
These two are separate.
They cannot be combined into the same idea, as you did above.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:37 pm

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^Disregard that.
Reading comprehension is a pro skill I apparently do not possess. "If" is a very important word in what Dunnstral said, and I missed it.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:25 pm

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In post 1105, Ranger wrote:
Ploben wrote:The thing is, I know ranger isn't an asset to town even if town
Keep telling yourself that.
Uh, I didn't say that...Panther did in

I was going to mention this earlier but why don't you quote with the post number? It's really tough to follow and things like this happen where you attribute a quote to someone who didn't say it
Better to be read dumb than scum.

18:
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:31 pm

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I wasn't the one who brought up the golf today, Panther did. Mafia is a social game, god forbid anything other than game related posts are made.

I also didn't really want to step in the middle of the conversation about scum me, it was constructive to Panther and Dunnstral so I just logged off.
Better to be read dumb than scum.

18:
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:34 pm

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Aaaaand more meta reads from Ranger...awesome
:roll:
Better to be read dumb than scum.

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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:44 pm

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I feel like no one should post anything until BTD6 and Scott catch up and give us something.
Better to be read dumb than scum.

18:
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:02 pm

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#byescott

#p*******2016?

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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:43 pm

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ploben wrote:Uh, I didn't say that...Panther did in 1073
Sorry, consequence of my quoting style.
Aaaaand more meta reads from Ranger...awesome
Yes. Do explain your hatred for meta. You'd be the first!
I feel like no one should post anything until BTD6 and Scott catch up and give us something.
However, this is an incredibly tempting offer.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:00 pm

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In post 1067, KuroiXHF wrote:I've answered both these questions. I didn't like how Shadowstep was scum reading the original holder of my slot and I suspect it was because of Alpaca's inactivity. Shadowstep's response was troubling because it seemed bitter and angered to my suspicions.

I also unvoted Ranger because even as scum, I feel like I could follow Ranger's reads to help me find scum. Right now, I have her locked. If she steers me astray, I feel like I could catch her. She wants me alive because I could help lynch her. Ergo, I want her alive until her scum buddies are caught.
Loving this Omgus scum read on me.
It's like he has no choice but to scum read me and is making any BS to justify the read.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:01 pm

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Thanks for the ad hominem. It's easy to insult me when you don't want to actually respond to my points.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:08 pm

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In post 1106, Ranger wrote:
Dunnstral wrote:Defensively talks about herself at slightest pressure
Show me.
Aggressively attacking people who scum read her (Except Florestan)
Already shown false, with the sole exception of PantherPunt, which is justified.
Goes on and on about other games, makes big walls of text that don't matter
Do explain.
In addition to above, self meta all day long (more time referencing self meta than this game!)
Prove it.
The associations between her, Kuroi, (and now possibly Ploben?) make her VERY likely to be mafia
Absolutely hypocritical given your interactions with Kuroi and ploben.
Also that theory that the 3 top posters are mafia spamming the thread is laughable and will be quoted in post-game/after flips
Again, I was not the originator of this theory. This is the second time I have had to say this.
Kuroi wrote:I've scum read Ranger and she hasn't attacked me.
Not so. I attacked you before you were even in the game. But see above, about how the point of me attacking people scumreading me is absolutely backwards.
Not sure why I should do any of that, I was explaining it to chip not you

Also you asking for explanations but not providing any of your own :roll:
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:09 pm

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In post 1117, KuroiXHF wrote:Thanks for the ad hominem. It's easy to insult me when you don't want to actually respond to my points.
In post 775, KuroiXHF wrote:I told you already. You're not getting shit from me today.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:10 pm

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Hey Shadow, I noticed you asked about Panther's stance on Ranger, what do you think of her?
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:30 pm

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In post 1119, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1117, KuroiXHF wrote:Thanks for the ad hominem. It's easy to insult me when you don't want to actually respond to my points.
In post 775, KuroiXHF wrote:I told you already. You're not getting shit from me today.
I don't think you understand what an ad hominem is.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:40 pm

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In post 1120, Dunnstral wrote:Hey Shadow, I noticed you asked about Panther's stance on Ranger, what do you think of her?
In post 1120, Dunnstral wrote:Hey Shadow, I noticed you asked about Panther's stance on Ranger, what do you think of her?
I don't really agree with her scum read on you and Panther.
Not really reading her as town so wouldn't mind if she gets lynched.
Though I would prefer a kuroi lynch.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:48 pm

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In post 1072, Dunnstral wrote:Panther do you think it's possible that ploben is mafia after all and that they have a maf partner trying to put connections between ploben and other people?
I have been thinking about this too.
Forget the IC thing as a scum attemptattempt to fakeclaim of draw a counter clam bla bla. It could have been just a joke made by mafia with nothing in mind.

I haven't really liked his play since, his push on Chip and then his vote on Scott doesn't really scream town to me, was quite scummy actually.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:08 pm

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Yes. I've touched a soft spot. I'm aware. Now do you have an alignment indicative reason for wanting me dead?
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