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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:42 am

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What do you think of my case on Ranger? I know your vote is already there, but do you think my argument holds any water or not?
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:50 am

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In post 1125, Clumsy wrote:What do you think of my case on Ranger? I know your vote is already there, but do you think my argument holds any water or not?
Frankly - I think your case holds exactly zero water. Like a bleak desert landscape. Nothing personal but I don't see scum motivation in not hammering a Town player. That would be passing up a free mislynch when reducing Town is at a premium.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:07 am

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I don't really have anything to add at this point other than that I will not be claiming unless at L-1.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:50 am

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-distant grumbling is heard-

I suppose that's fair. Mrghh. Let me rethink for a while.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:20 am

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Spoiler: Non game relevant DC fluff
Of game topic but these are, from left to right -

The Atom (Ray Palmer)
Rip Hunter
White Canary
Captain Cold
Hawkman
Heat Wave
Hawkwoman
Firestorm (includes Martin Stein at the far right)

Firestorm, Captain Cold and HeatWave all spun off from the Flash series. Atom and White Canary from Arrow. All the CW DC series are worth watching IMO.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:43 am

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In post 1124, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Telltale – Did you shoot Night 1?
Of course not.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:44 pm

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Magna wrote:She lays out a detailed course of action about how to be handle the possibility of additional cleared Town players and whether the hypothetical Town protective role should claim or not.
And then we had someone claim VT, after I had already softclaimed VT, with TellTaleHeart having claimed and SnarkySnowman having claimed. 4/7 players alive...

...And among the three unclaimed?

My strongest scumread, lilith.

Darn right I support a massclaim now,
especially
since I have a
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relevant theory for not just this Earth, but BOTH Earths, about the setup, which I'd need a massclaim to confirm.
Quite the RANGE.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:56 pm

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In post 1131, Ranger wrote:And then we had someone claim VT, after I had already softclaimed VT, with TellTaleHeart having claimed and SnarkySnowman having claimed. 4/7 players alive...

...And among the three unclaimed?

My strongest scumread, lilith.

Darn right I support a massclaim now, especially since I have a very relevant theory for not just this Earth, but BOTH Earths, about the setup, which I'd need a massclaim to confirm.
The only thing that changed between your initial post and your second was a VT claim by Java.

So no thanks - I don't trust you and your motivations for mass-claim as far as a newborn baby can throw you. Scum Ranger loves to use set-up spec as a means to mislynch (Diffusion of Power anyone?).
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:00 pm

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:The only thing that changed between your initial post and your second was a VT claim by Java.
'Only'.
Only, that's actually
a really big deal
when there's seven alive. One single VT claim, after the explicit claims and the softclaims, can make all the difference.

If lilith is scum (she is), consider this: she knows her scumbuddy, who is either SnarkySnowman or in the unclaimed (most likely).
Even if her scumbuddy isn't in the unclaimed, she now has a 50/50 chance between {you, Clumsy} of hitting a PR that can stop the kill.
Ergo, massclaim.
Quite the RANGE.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 1133, Ranger wrote:
If
lilith is scum (she is), consider this: she knows her scumbuddy, who is either SnarkySnowman or in the unclaimed (most likely).
Even if her scumbuddy isn't in the unclaimed, she now has a 50/50 chance between {you, Clumsy} of hitting a PR that can stop the kill.
Ergo, massclaim.
Lol. Bolded the critical component that renders the rest of your analysis moot from my point of view.

Ranger-scum on the other hand can't roll the dice on another Town protect foiling another one of her kills. Thus the sudden push for a mass-claim to minimize the chances her team isn't screwed.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:08 pm

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In post 1134, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Ranger-scum on the other hand can't roll the dice on another Town protect foiling another one of her kills. Thus the sudden push for a mass-claim to minimize the chances her team
is
screwed.
Bolded EBWOP
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:33 pm

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Votecount 3.3

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SnarkySnowman (2) - Javajoe24, Clumsy
Ranger (2) - lilith2013, MagnaOfIllusion
Javejoe24 (1) - SnarkySnowman
lilith2013 (1) - Ranger

Not voting (1) - TellTaleHeart

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch someone.

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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:55 pm

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I'm finding Magna convincing. I'm down to lynch Ranger. VOTE: Ranger

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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:15 pm

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For what it's worth: current theory places it as being a {lilith, Clumsy} scumteam.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:07 pm

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I really don't think Ranger is scum this earth :/
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:14 pm

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Then who?
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:21 pm

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Ranger wrote:current theory places it as being a {lilith, Clumsy} scumteam.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:27 pm

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I was asking Snowman, snarky. ;)
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:28 pm

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I'm still in support of a mass claim, I think it gives us the best option of finding scum today.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:36 pm

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I personally think it's Joe and Lilith. MoI and Ranger are clearly trying to solve this earth, and are completely off the table for me. You as well, clumsy.
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:38 am

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I'm not feeling this Ranger lynch at all.
VOTE: Lilith
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:03 am

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Actually

UNVOTE:

There's a lot more time to go and I want more time to think through things. FOS is still here though.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:16 am

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At this point I’d like to see any sort of reasons from anyone as to why Lilith is scum. What I have seen so far is Ranger giving fluff generic reasoning with no backing or support whatsoever. Which is as compelling as day old bread that’s taken on a bit of mold.
In post 1144, SnarkySnowman wrote:I personally think it's Joe and Lilith.
I’d really like to hear why specifically you think these two are scum.
In post 1143, Javajoe24 wrote:I'm still in support of a mass claim, I think it gives us the best option of finding scum today.
Nope. This isn’t happening. I’m now trying to decide if this is scum Java (and very likely Ranger’s partner if so) pushing a very pro-scum agenda or just Fire and Ice Mafia level bad Town play from you.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:55 am

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In that case, I have a sneaking suspicion on something....

intent to hammer ranger
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:00 am

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In post 1148, Javajoe24 wrote:In that case, I have a sneaking suspicion on something....

intent to hammer ranger
Ranger is at L-2. Clumsy unvoted. So you can't exactly hammer him.
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