Newbie 1715 (Game Over)

[atm487]

so in every way im suspicous. understandable. i bid you farewell for 2 hours my brothers

[crazycrabman]

Farewell

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee your logic on me being scum for coaching atm487 makes no sense if you truly believe that because that would mean you think that's the scum team. If that's true then why are you voting for tojam?

I'm not really thinking that you were coaching him but it is something to keep in mind if tojam somehow flips town.

[crazycrabman]

VOTE: tojam

Because no matter if tojam is scum or not, not being pretty unlikely, the information gained from the lynching will take us a big way in scum-hunting.

[Dwlee99]

L-1

[eagerSnake]

crazycrabman we still have 7 days 5 business days to scumhunt before we lynch tojam just 'for information' if that's the only reason you are lynching is to get information then you should wait

[LicketyQuickety]

Dwlee... why are you voting for tojam?

Good question. iirc they wanted creature to put their vote back on tojam. I don't see why Dwlee doesn't do this. I can only guess that they don't want to put tojam that close to lynch yet, but that doesn't really line up because iirc they wanted tojam lynched a while ago and basically said there was no reason to wait.

[eagerSnake]

Please nobody derphammer without any last words from tojam

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee... why are you voting for tojam?

Good question. iirc they wanted creature to put their vote back on tojam. I don't see why Dwlee doesn't do this. I can only guess that they don't want to put tojam that close to lynch yet, but that doesn't really line up because iirc they wanted tojam lynched a while ago and basically said there was no reason to wait.

You're either misinterpreting something or you need to rephrase your post cause this makes no sense.

[crazycrabman]

crazycrabman we still have 7 days 5 business days to scumhunt before we lynch tojam just 'for information' if that's the only reason you are lynching is to get information then you should wait

There is some wiki article saying that waiting 'till the deadline does not accomplish anything. I will look a bit deeper for it.

[Dragon of the West]

Please nobody derphammer without any last words from tojam

^^^^

[Dragon of the West]

does someone want to unvote just to be sure? or are we okay with him sitting at L-1 trusting no one will just hammer him?

[Dwlee99]

I'm leaving my vote.

[LicketyQuickety]

Dwlee... why are you voting for tojam?

Good question. iirc they wanted creature to put their vote back on tojam. I don't see why Dwlee doesn't do this. I can only guess that they don't want to put tojam that close to lynch yet, but that doesn't really line up because iirc they wanted tojam lynched a while ago and basically said there was no reason to wait.

You're either misinterpreting something or you need to rephrase your post cause this makes no sense.

OK, I goofed. I thought what eagerSnake was saying is why isn't your vote on tojam, but now I don't know if your vote is or is not on tojam. If you vote is on tojam then that makes WAY more sense.

[Dwlee99]

my vote is on tojam

[LicketyQuickety]

my vote is on tojam

OK. Good to know you are not playing as poorly as I originally thought. I have made some really stupid interpretations this game.

[crazycrabman]

does someone want to unvote just to be sure? or are we okay with him sitting at L-1 trusting no one will just hammer him?

How about you...

[Dragon of the West]

does someone want to unvote just to be sure? or are we okay with him sitting at L-1 trusting no one will just hammer him?

How about you...

haha i could, but it wasn't a request for someone to. just me asking the guys who haven't voted yet if they would feel better if someone did. I'm content with Tojam sitting at L-1

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 1.4

tojam2 (4):

SirCakez, Dwlee99, Dragon of the West, crazycrabman

Creature (1):

LicketyQuickety

No Vote (4):

atm487, Creature, eagerSnake, tojam2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Friday, June 24, at 4:00 PM CST, which is in (expired on 2016-06-24 16:00:00).

10 pages between the time I went to work (my previous VC) and when I returned from work (just now). Nice job

[atm487]

OK so from what I can tell, voting for Tojam is too risky. I want definitive proof, and that may be bad but for me I will not vote unless the majority is voting or definitive proof is shown

[atm487]

Crazy showed me that he has been inactive, but if anyone has anything else then I will vote

[Dragon of the West]

Okay sorry for the inactivity so far I've been busy the past two days. The vibes I'm getting so far are creature and tojam as the most scummy. Just reading over the thread creature seems to make a lot of cases that feel forced. Tojam has been iffy between being scarce and having early posts that didn't make much sense (although I may have just misinterpreted them). I haven't gotten a decent read on anyone else besides crazy's townslip.
VOTE: tojam L-1

Thanks for calling L-1, it helps us a lot, shame that one of you is probably going to lynch me now, then immediately think Creature is scum for pushing my wagon so hard, which could be correct, though it's unlikely as most of you have pointed out.

Please do not use the word 'vibe', it means nothing in terms of the game and often leads to town lynches. If you do know for sure that a person is scum (or the whole partnership) say it out loud, especially if its LYLO (essentially you have to lynch and if you lynch wrong it's game over) or MYLO (lynch town and it's game over).

Fortunately I'm a Vanilla Townie (VT) so there's still 1 or 2 power roles left in town, if you are a PR, check Creature, but don't say if you are a PR now.

@atm, ultimately, this was his defense when he was at L-1. No one (including myself) thought this was a very good defense of himself. Since pressuring him further he hasn't responded or given a more sound defense. That is why we've still been pressuring and looking for further responses. Ultimately it's a guessing game but Tojam is our best bet. We don't want to lynch him yet since we have more day to work with, though. and if he surprisingly flips town we can take whatever reads he has into consideration

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: unvote

[eagerSnake]

Good morning

FoS: Dwlee99

[Dwlee99]

Eagersnake why are you so afraid of just putting out a stinkin' vote?