Newbie 1714 (Game Over)

[Zyf]

Btw fox, why would you peek me over, say, sick on N1?

[Raskolnikov]

He thought we were ultra buddying scumteam remember?

[Zyf]

Oh wtf
And here i thought I explained myself

Smfh

But you know what?
I got 10 pagetops so I win by default.

[Zyf]

I know but why meeee
Why not you?
How the heck would I have a higher chance of hiding stuff than you? In terms of danger SE>>>>>>>newb
Fox could've solved the game with that

[Raskolnikov]

Man, to think he could've checked me n1.
It seemed the attempt at being friendly to him dissuaded that a bit though.

All the buddying this game

[Zyf]

Literally the ONLY team I wouldn'tve seen was you two
I might have even believed beeboy mh once beeboy claimed VT
this whole time i thought they were doc

[Zyf]

Been wanting to post this since N1
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[Raskolnikov]

I know but why meeee
Why not you?
How the heck would I have a higher chance of hiding stuff than you? In terms of danger SE>>>>>>>newb
Fox could've solved the game with that

178 180 181
pure buddying here that I HOPE influenced that a bit (but maybe not).

Also we thought beeboy was doc-ish n2 too, the play around the PR spec he had with f-oh-x kind of gave me that impression. Being all like "why would people target ranger if she was scummyish and still maybe protected" felt like something a protective would say after choosing to protect someone other than ranger.

[Zyf]

I seriously just don't know what I could've done; you guys played a disgustingly good game
And you two were the main ones pushing me
Like wtf
Do you think fox should've outed themself?

[Raskolnikov]

I think f-oh-x outing that inno doesn't actually significantly change this game. You weren't getting lynched anyways and were kind of conftown to most people even without the inno.
Sickofit would have been a little different in lylo and saw either beeboy/mhsmith or maybe suspected me but worst case scenario sick still gets lynched instead of beeboy there so yeah.

[Raskolnikov]

Also I loved you posting the picture of your diagram.

I personally find it interesting to see the behind the scenes on read development like that. I was hoping you'd continue and I'd get to see all the things get crossed out and new lines going everywhere and question marks appearing

[Zyf]

Lmao i'll use that in the future
But was pointless d2 b/c we all wanted to policy lynch/obv lynch vandit
And then d3 was lylo, no new reads in play, just a bunch of this:
Beeboy=?????
Rask=????
Mh=conftown?????
Sick=scum?????
Me=obvtown/conftown???

[Zyf]

At that point, I trusted no one
Of course the 2 ppl I trusted slightly more were the f***ing mafia

On a side note I did just find a lit electronic song album b/c I was triggered all last night so thanks you two

[Zyf]

No, fox outing me as inno would have changed a good deal of stuff
For one, it would've prompted me to go back to looking at you
Also, sick wouldn't have been flailing against me d3 which could've easily gone a not beeboy route
And sick could've convinced me mh was scum because obviously I was confused as shit about that the whole day

[mhsmith0]

Lol smith for thinking FOX peeked vandit

[mhsmith0]

Cop explicitly outing on d2 w/o a guilty is generally sub optimal play though. FOX kinda outed by switching his read on you, not that I actually noticed that though...

[Raskolnikov]

Yeah but even without the beeboy lynch we were probably getting sick lynch still.
And if I couldn't convince you to see mhs scum would sick have?

[Raskolnikov]

Not that I wanted to get my partner scumread for no reason, but pushing beeboy/mhsmith appeals to sickofit while still fitting the beeboy scum narrative.

[Zyf]

Actually yeah
Specificalky for the reason that he wouldn't have been flailing
That made him scummy in my eyes, making me completely inflexible in not voting for him

Honestly the biggest hint was when you came online and then weren't posting reads mh
Gdi

[Zyf]

Lol smith for thinking FOX peeked vandit

Lol reading the two mafia as the towniest
I'm good at this game i promise

[Raskolnikov]

Even if sick didn't suspect you though he'd rule out me/beeboy and probably prefer beeboy/mhsmith to me/mhsmith.
And beeboy would still townread mhsmith and scumread sick. sick vs beeboy was still a thing that would happen and odds are one of them would vote the other eventually.

5p lylo is pretty unforgiving since all 3/3 people have to be on the same page.

[Zyf]

Especially since beeboy was busy/gone

[mhsmith0]

Actually yeah
Specificalky for the reason that he wouldn't have been flailing
That made him scummy in my eyes, making me completely inflexible in not voting for him

Honestly the biggest hint was when you came online and then weren't posting reads mh
Gdi

Honestly I really was working on my case. Sometimes I post short reads and actively engage, sometimes I really am going back and re reading the thread to pick stuff out. I really was doing the latter here.

[Zyf]

Sick y
Ok wow so you're telling me I could've gotten 50% scumteam if sick didn't immediately vote

[Raskolnikov]

How?