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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:36 am

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Spoiler: offtopic
KuroiXHF had a House M.D. avatar. Thor is a character on Nurse Jackie. "Nurse Jackie" and "House" both focus on a talented healthcare worker who rubs up against establishment and just likes to get stuff done even it means breaking some rules, and both main characters are drug addicts, and their best friends are doctors.

Okay no more offtopic stuff from me, I just had to share that observation.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:45 am

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I'll light up like a bonfire start of day 2 no worries

I really doubt I'm going to be able to lynch Ranger or Thor today so guess we're waiting on Thor before we vote Ploben?

By the way Ploben can't be a pr because he's been saying things like "my lynch will be informational" that I'd never ever expect a pr to say.

I think it was mhsmith0 who said he wouldn't pick any mods as mafia, I think I wouldn't either, if you pick no mods as mafia there are only 2 town prs, leaving you with a 60% chance to successfully fakeclaim a pr. I've been thinking about this for a while but it wasn't ever relevant, just need to get it out before day end I think

...I don't really have much else to say for today, I'll vote for Ploben just to end the day if nobody else will, but will let Thor give thoughts on other things first
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:10 pm

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In post 1591, ploben wrote: I think Chip honestly considered other people as scum and didn't vote them. Why? Well that all depends on his alignment. As town he would have no problem reconsidering and voting differently. As scum it would look bad if he jumped around with votes.
You're not even making sense anymore. You think I "honestly considered other people as scum and didn't vote them"? Then you are saying you think I am def Town - uh, scum KNOW who is scum. And then you go right on and question my alignment in the same post...

Oh, plob. I'm...I'm embarrassed for you. :(
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:35 pm

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In post 1591, ploben wrote:I think Chip honestly considered other people as scum and didn't vote them. Why? Well that all depends on his alignment. As town he would have no problem reconsidering and voting differently. As scum it would look bad if he jumped around with votes.
I would ding you for this a bit more, but Chip already is, so I'll just ditto it to add pressure.
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Dunno, you don't look particularly townie to me as you're adding nothing to the thread at this point.
Maybe if that changes, otherwise I'll lynch you to reclaim Mjolnir.
In post 1596, Dunnstral wrote:Ploben now might be a good time to role claim
So is this (and other comments) an admission of loss of the scumread on my slot?
Because I don't think I've done anything, so basically you stopped scumreading the slot because a more intimidating player that you don't think you can get lynched is now in it?
What's up with that?

Unvote: Ploben
Vote: Dunnstral


There, now you can vote him more freely if you want to press for a claim.
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So you also scumread both top wagons?
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:47 pm

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In post 1603, Thor665 wrote:So is this (and other comments) an admission of loss of the scumread on my slot?
Because I don't think I've done anything, so basically you stopped scumreading the slot because a more intimidating player that you don't think you can get lynched is now in it?
What's up with that?
Read the game?
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:02 pm

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In post 1603, Thor665 wrote:I've already answered this question before it was asked by comments I've made, so...yes, I'm not reading anything unless it's quoted for me, much like how you're not actually analyzing what I'm posting.
Nevermind I guess, I've accepted that you're not getting lynched today as everyone wants Ploben. I Think Ploben is more likely to be town than mafia but everyone wants him dead. My top scumread is Ranger and that wasn't going to happen so I voted Kuroi, who then replaced out

I want to hear your thoughts on Ranger.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:26 pm

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@dunn: if you think plob is town, fight for that read. Tell us why we're wrong. Eh, shrug, fine lets lynch plob isn't good.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:30 pm

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Me and Thor are gonna have problems again.

He's already taking the line of unrighteous indignation by telling me I'm not analyzing his posts. Meanwhile he has like 4 posts and he wants me to infer he's reading nothing by answers he's given others.

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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:32 pm

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In post 1606, mhsmith0 wrote:@dunn: if you think plob is town, fight for that read. Tell us why we're wrong. Eh, shrug, fine lets lynch plob isn't good.

??? I have been all game

But you brought up actual good points against him so whatever

I've been wanting to get Ranger/Kuroi for like 1000 posts
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:23 pm

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In post 1605, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1603, Thor665 wrote:I've already answered this question before it was asked by comments I've made, so...yes, I'm not reading anything unless it's quoted for me, much like how you're not actually analyzing what I'm posting.
Nevermind I guess, I've accepted that you're not getting lynched today as everyone wants Ploben. I Think Ploben is more likely to be town than mafia but everyone wants him dead. My top scumread is Ranger and that wasn't going to happen so I voted Kuroi, who then replaced out

I want to hear your thoughts on Ranger.
But you're explicitly saying you think ploben is likely town. I get you are reading Thor/ranger as wolves, and that's fine (I think), but what about ploben specifically makes you think town? If we're wrong on ploben, why are we wrong on him, other than just "well those other two slots are my top two reads"?
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:21 pm

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It's basically just that I think that Ranger and Thor are mafia at this point, so i think it's much less likely for Ploben to be mafia in that scenario. Certainly possible but not likely. Ploben is my third choice for a lynch today (though I think he's more likely town) behind Ranger and Thor

I've been townreading Ploben from the start and even analyzed him early on and considered the possibility of him mafia. For the record, if he is mafia I definitely want Ranger to go next regardless (I expect heavy resistance)
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:24 pm

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Flor and dup...you two need to move your vote somewhere. Either me or Kuroi/Thor.
Better to be read dumb than scum.

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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:32 pm

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why?
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:34 pm

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Does a Ranger lynch look viable to you? Or would you rather no lynch D1?
Better to be read dumb than scum.

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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:35 pm

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We have like 2 and a half days left
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:38 pm

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And based on how some of the players have been responding you think that's enough time for an L-1, intent, claim, and discussion on the claim to either follow through or find another lynch?

Do you want to take it inside of 24 hours Dunn?
Better to be read dumb than scum.

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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:45 pm

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I mean I'm obviously fine with just ending it now, Ranger will whine about not letting Thor read I'm sure but oh well, Kuroi shouldn't have replaced out when we're trying to lynch
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:54 pm

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In post 1616, Dunnstral wrote:I mean I'm obviously fine with just ending it now,
You keep saying that, but you don't vote.
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:06 pm

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I mean, you don't vote plob.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:29 pm

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Because that's not who I want to lynch...

I'll vote him if I have to otherwise
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:44 pm

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In post 1619, Dunnstral wrote:Because that's not who I want to lynch...

I'll vote him if I have to otherwise
Can you please give us a read on ploben specifically? Ignore the other players, ploben is town because ___, or ploben is null because ____, or ploben is a wolf because ______. I'm sure you find this annoying, but I want you to actually commit to an opinion on ploben and explain to us why you think it.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:49 pm

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I thought his early game was really towny.

Later on he became kind of weird but still leaned town on him

My two top scumreads/slots have been on ploben all game (+karnos has been on him too)

Scummy things he's done is hard buddy up to me and panther, and some of his lines do feel weird

Overall I feel like he's more likely to be town than mafia, and so would Rather Lynch Ranger, and Thor, in that order

Is that good?
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:56 pm

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karnos wrote:Ranger: get well.
Someone gave me a tip today. They think I may have a zinc deficiency. Pros:
  1. It fits all of my symptoms, from a weaker immune system to my mental fatigue among other "pleasantries". It is also a probability based on my diet.
  2. If true, it is easily fixed.
Cons:
  1. This is just a self-diagnosis. Not a professional opinion.
  2. The reason I know it is a probability on my diet is because I don't have
    a single thing
    in my entire house that is rich in zinc. Not one.
  3. Even if this is the problem, and even if I do get some source of zinc, I don't anticipate an overnight recovery.
Still, this gives me hope I won't have to waste time and money on a doctor visit.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:03 pm

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PantherPunt wrote:1) slots don't get modkilled for inactivity...at least I've never seen it on this site.
They can, but...
2) hoping for scum modkills is trash tier
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:09 pm

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Dunnstral wrote:By the way Ploben can't be a pr because he's been saying things like "my lynch will be informational" that I'd never ever expect a pr to say.
It's funny you make this observation.

And by funny, I mean, "is scum for a specific reason".
This one I have absolutely no intention of explaining. It's more of a "at some distant point in the future, this is something I have thoughts on which will be relevant then but which are not relevant now".
I mean I'm obviously fine with just ending it now, Ranger will whine about not letting Thor read I'm sure but oh well, Kuroi shouldn't have replaced out when we're trying to lynch
Nah, not whine.

Be "not an idiot" and ask the mod to accommodate the replacements.

Mod: Given the proximity of deadline and when our replacements have come in
(namely, Thor, but also mhsmith0),
can we get a deadline extension?
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