Newbie 1715 (Game Over)

[crazycrabman]

I investigated LQ for a few reasons. I suspected that he would turn out as town and with that confirmed, I could focus my efforts on others. LQ could be teamed with many other people and me finding out he is not scum would eliminate man of those possible team. I honestly did not expect LQ to turn out scum, and now that he has, I am focusing all my efforts on him. This is why I started criticizing him right after the night.

[crazycrabman]

I am very open to change but currently:
town {Dwlee}
townlean {DotW, Creature}
null {eagersnake, Sircakez, LQ}
scumlean {atm}
scum {tojam}

This could all change in a heartbeat if Tojam is found to be town. If that happens:

town {}
townlean {}
null {eagersnake, Sircakez, DotW}
scumlean {Creature, LQ}
scum {Dwlee}

Put LQ in the townlean on the second one

Ok, so here's my spiel before the night.

If Tojam Is Scum

Town: {Creature, Dwlee}
Townlean: {Sircakez}
Null: {LQ, Atm}
Scumlean: {eagersnakes, Dotw}
Scum: {}

If Tojam is Town

Town:{}
Townlean:{Creature, Dwlee, DotW}
Null:{Sircakez, LQ, Atm}
Scumlean:{eagersnakes}
Scum:{}

This is all going off vibes because vibes are all we got, besides the nightkill. I include in the "vibes" category things like post content, length, frequency, and wording. Vibes and the nightkill, when used together, are all we need to find the scum, if we feel deep enough. I'll work on a post about possible teams after the night, if we are indeed lynching tojam withing the next few days.

Why would I put so much pressure on LQ if I had him null and had no idea he was scum?

[LicketyQuickety]

I am very open to change but currently:
town {Dwlee}
townlean {DotW, Creature}
null {eagersnake, Sircakez, LQ}
scumlean {

atm

}
scum {tojam}

This could all change in a heartbeat if Tojam is found to be town. If that happens:

town {}
townlean {}
null {eagersnake, Sircakez, DotW}
scumlean {Creature, LQ}
scum {Dwlee}

Put LQ in the townlean on the second one

Ok, so here's my spiel before the night.

If Tojam Is Scum

Town: {Creature, Dwlee}
Townlean: {Sircakez}
Null: {LQ,

Atm

}
Scumlean: {eagersnakes, Dotw}
Scum: {}

If Tojam is Town

Town:{}
Townlean:{Creature, Dwlee, DotW}
Null:{Sircakez, LQ,

Atm

}
Scumlean:{eagersnakes}
Scum:{}

This is all going off vibes because vibes are all we got, besides the nightkill. I include in the "vibes" category things like post content, length, frequency, and wording. Vibes and the nightkill, when used together, are all we need to find the scum, if we feel deep enough. I'll work on a post about possible teams after the night, if we are indeed lynching tojam withing the next few days.

for crazy's where am i for both

ATM. That's you.

[eagerSnake]

Null just like LQ'S

[LicketyQuickety]

I investigated LQ for a few reasons. I suspected that he would turn out as town and with that confirmed, I could focus my efforts on others. LQ could be teamed with many other people and me finding out he is not scum would eliminate man of those possible team. I honestly did not expect LQ to turn out scum, and now that he has, I am focusing all my efforts on him. This is why I started criticizing him right after the night.

FWIW I thought you were pulling a gambit because you were "confirmed" Town. Turns out I was right about This:

tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.

But he checked his PM, so it's possible he wanted to disappear because of that.

Let's help crazycrabman make a case on someone.

?
That almost sounds like a scum PM you accidentally put in the forum.

It isn't, but congratulations anyway.

UNVOTE: crazycrabman

I don't get a word you are saying. Why are you congratulating me? What was the meaning of post 123?

Your post 127 has a townslip, can you say that?

I have no idea what a townslip is but I'm guessing post 123 was a reaction test and I passed it. I'm new at this as you can probably see.

123 isn't a reaction test, it's supposed to be interpretated as "crazy is trying to make a case"

Ohhhh, I see now, sorry.

I'll wait to see if others noticed your townslip before explaining.

Scum have Night Chat.

It's a townslip for a different reason.

It's a townslip for a different reason.

Do tell.

That almost sounds like a

scum PM

you accidentally put in the forum.

Here's the townslip (bolded).

He thinks scum communicates between themselves through private messages (PM). If he were scum, he would notice scum actually uses private topics and most likely wouldn't say "scum PM"

Notice posts 44 and 56. It seems creature could either be baiting someone to do what crazy did or crazy could have been trying to be tricky there and tried to derp clear himself by way of using PM as a vehicle to do so.

Anyone have any thoughts on this interaction?

[eagerSnake]

I have to believe Ccm here his intentions seem more honest than LQ here I think

[eagerSnake]

We must ask ourselves would ccm out himself like that as scum when he is "confirmed" town

[LicketyQuickety]

We must ask ourselves would ccm out himself like that as scum when he is "confirmed" town

he's prolly banking on just that; that he is "confirmed".

[crazycrabman]

I'm going to wait to make a comment on this until we get Dwlee and others opinion on this predicament.

[eagerSnake]

We must ask ourselves would ccm out himself like that as scum when he is "confirmed" town

he's prolly banking on just that; that he is "confirmed".

I don't think "confirmed town" scum!ccm would draw the attention to himself like that when he doesn't need to.

[crazycrabman]

So LQ, do you believe I'm scum or a town doing a gambit?

[LicketyQuickety]

We must ask ourselves would ccm out himself like that as scum when he is "confirmed" town

he's prolly banking on just that; that he is "confirmed".

I don't think "confirmed town" scum!ccm would draw the attention to himself like that when he doesn't need to.

yeah, its not the best play even if he was town. Its just bad all around.

So LQ, do you believe I'm scum or a town doing a gambit?

You are Scum. You're past the point of a gambit at this point.

[crazycrabman]

Ahh ok, I was confused.

[crazycrabman]

Yes it was bad for you.

[LicketyQuickety]

Yes it was bad for you.

I admire your dedication to this, but you are Scum.

[crazycrabman]

I admire your dedication to this, but you are Scum.

I admire your dedication to this, but

you

are Scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

I admire your dedication to this, but you are Scum.

I admire your dedication to this, but

you

are Scum.

LOL. I guess we will find out how this goes when more people have more to say about it. But, yeah, you made a bad play.

[LicketyQuickety]

This should be obvious, but if there is a Doctor in the game, do not claim.

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 2.3

Dwlee99 (1):

eagerSnake

LicketyQuickety (1):

crazycrabman

eagerSnake (1):

Dragon of the West

Creature (1):

atm487

crazycrabman (1):

LicketyQuickety

No Vote (2):

Creature, Dwlee99

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 4:00 PM CST, which is in (expired on 2016-07-02 16:00:00).

[eagerSnake]

Well I'm pretty certain it's Dwlee99 and LQ

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

[Dragon of the West]

Okay so I missed a lot. I want to adress a few things. First off, once Tojam flipped town, my read on creature immediately changed because I've had a scummy feeling about him since day 1. This meant I no longer considered ccm "confirmed town" due to the fact that the "town-slip" idea was instigated by creature. On the other hand, if ccm is telling the truth and LQ is scum, who do we think his partner is? I don't think a creature pairing is likely. The 2 I see as most likely are eagerSnake or atm with a heavy leaning towards eagersnake. They've been fairly buddy buddy and looking through LQ's ISO he only ever supports points made by eagersnake to persecute or question a third person

VOTE: unvote

[eagerSnake]

Weird because I've been thinking LQ is scum as far back as I can remember... idk why you would say I'm buddying him? That's suspicious...

[eagerSnake]

I'm fairly confident in my town reads on SirCakez, atm487, and crazycrabman. I have some doubt of DotWs and Creatures alignment. And more doubt of tojam, dwlee9, and LQ.

TBH I'm almost sure tojam will be lynched so I'm trying to figure out who his partner is if he shows up scum, or who the scum team is should he show up town.

This was my first read list lol but I had suspicion on LQ even long before that

[eagerSnake]

So if tojam turns scum then his partner should be either LQ or DotW.
If tojam flips town then scum will still be either LQ or DotW, with the addition of Creature or Dwlee9.

Sound about right? Or could Dwlee9 possibly be scum with tojam?

Still feel this way but I feel more confident about Dwlee99 being LQ'S partner now