New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Lowell]

I need more from cy, liger, and nos before we do anything. Normally I'm not the "omg stop everything let's get lurkers talking" type, but the field is getting too narrow to let this go on.

[MagnaofIllusion]

ISO Diving – Anen interactions

Titus

–

396 – asks Anen why he is voting a Townread. Don’t see any signs that this was followed up with on.

838 – Ask Anen to explain his TBG read. Follows up on a Anen response at 845 saying that Anen’s conclusion on TBG feels “Wrong (not scummy)”. In context Titus was scum reading TBG and apparently Anen was not. Not sure if scum partners would be communicating directly in thread to get what we now know is a mislynch greater strength given we know scum had Daytalk via Anen’s flip.

Compares their current reads at 864. In fact this starts a long back and forth between Titus and Anen specifically about Brawl. Again .. not sure scum with Daytalk work this hard trying to get aligned on a Town mislynch.

904 – call Anen “weak Town” with poor reads.

1141 – begins discussing with Nahdia about her Anen scum read. I’m torn on this. On one hand it is pretty hard defense of a known scum slot. On the other hand Nahdia was pretty much on an island with very few people invested in following her because she wasn’t willing to engage on a level enough to convince players to follow her.

1177 – provides meta evidence of how Town Anen reacts. Obviously it is incorrect. At 1233 again states that there is meta evidence to support a Town Anen read.

1308 – argues with Anen against a Nos scum read based on a Beetlejuice tell. That’s pretty Null in my book.

1361 – This post makes me think they are not aligned. Titus basically says “If you think Anen scum-slipped vote him. I disagree”. That’s a pretty bad compromise for a partner … not discouraging votes based on a claimed slip but not willing to join in the wagon.

1388 – suggests that Brawl or Pers (Town) and Shotty are better votes than Anen.

1518 once again calls Anen Town (or, specifically, obv-Town).

2155 – suggests that Anen and Brawl, Seth (TOWN) are good investigations. We know Anen was not investigation immune. Not sure scum suggest their partners as a 1/3 shot of investigation.

2491 – I really don’t think scum partners interact this way. Titus says “I’m ok with pressure on you since you can defend yourself and I want to see who jumps on your wagon”. That’s pointless grandstanding if they are partners given that Anen was scum.

Summary

– I don’t see them as partners. The only way Titus works as scum is as opposing Mafia faction (which I also don’t buy given her strong defense of Anen) or as Serial Killer.

[Nahdia]

im buying what MoI is selling tbh.

[Nahdia]

i dont wanna do a Titus lynch, even if i have p much disagreed with her all game. i'll look over Shaz's ISO I suppose. still would pref Ircher I think.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I mean MoI got that title for a reason.

[Nahdia]

having not delved too deep into what's going on in his ISO though, i want to say Shaz is town. he's a smart dude, clearly, but he

is

new to mafia. a lot of his posts just don't seem like newbscum to me. if he's scum, it's a very polished scumgame with a lot going on and i just dont expect that from him. i guess it's possible he's being coached.

[Nahdia]

i mean, maybe the dude is just a raw talent. but a lot of the things i'm seeing are things i expect to see from a scum player only when they've got a decent sized pool of experience and have a strong understanding of what sort of things come off towny.

[Ircher]

Votecount 1.2

Ircher (6) -

copper223

, drmyshottyiszk,

Killthestory, TehBrawlGuy

, Egg, zakk

Copper223

(2) -

Titus

, Ircher

Liger (1) - MagnaOfIllusion

MagnaOfIllusion

(1) - Shaziro

Killthestory

(1) -

Liger

zakk (1) -

Lowell

Not voting (9) -

Percival

, Nosferatu,

Expedience

, Projectmatt,

Kop

, cytheflyguy,

Aneninen

, Nahdia,

EspeciallyTheLies

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

Votecount 1.7

cytheflyguy (6) - zakk,

Titus

, projectmatt,

Kop

, Shaziro, Ircher
Ircher (5) -

TehBrawlGuy

, Egg, cytheflyguy,

Persivul

, drmyshottyiszik

Kop

(3) -

copper223

, Nosferatu,

Aneninen

Copper223 (2) - Killthestory, Expedience

MagnaOfIllusion

(1) -

Lowell

TehBrawlGuy

(1) -

MagnaOfIllusion

Killthestory

(1) -

Liger

Titus

(1) -

EspeciallyTheLies

Not voting (1) - Nahdia

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until May 23.

Votecount 1.8

Ircher (6) -

TehBrawlGuy

, Egg, cytheflyguy,

Persivul

, drmyshottyiszik,

EspeciallyTheLies

cytheflyguy (5) - zakk,

Titus

,

Kop

, Shaziro, Ircher

Kop

(3) -

copper223

, Nosferatu,

Aneninen

Killthestory

(2) -

Liger

,

Expedience

Copper223 (1) - Killthestory

MagnaOfIllusion

(1) -

Lowell

TehBrawlGuy

(1) -

MagnaOfIllusion

Not voting (2) - Nahdia, projectmatt

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until May 23.

Votecount 1.13

Kop

(4) -

copper223

, Nosferatu,

Aneninen

, projectmatt

TehBrawlGuy

(4) -

Titus

,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Kop, Killthestory

Shaziro (3) - zakk,

TehBrawlGuy, Lowell

Titus

(3) - drmyshottyiszik,

Persivul, EspeciallyTheLies

Killthestory

(2) -

Liger

,

Expedience

Ircher (2) - Egg, cytheflyguy

copper223

(1) - Nahdia
drmyshottyiszik (1) - Ircher
cytheflyguy (1) - Shaziro

Not voting (0)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA until May 31.
Ircher will be V/LA from May 30 to June 3.

Votecount 1.14

TehBrawlGuy

(4) -

Titus

,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Kop

,

Aneninen

Ircher (4) - Egg, cytheflyguy, drmyshottyiszik,

copper223

Shaziro (3) - zakk,

TehBrawlGuy, Lowell

Kop

(2) - Nosferatu, projectmatt

Titus

(2) -

Persivul, EspeciallyTheLies

Killthestory

(2) -

Liger

,

Expedience

drmyshottyiszik (1) - Ircher
cytheflyguy (1) - Shaziro

Aneninen

(1) - Nahdia
zakk (1) -

Killthestory

Not voting (0)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA until May 31.
MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until May 31.
Lowell is V/LA until May 31.
Ircher will be V/LA from May 30 to June 3.

Votecount 1.17

TehBrawlGuy

(6) -

Titus

,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Kop

,

Aneninen

, Ircher, cytheflyguy

Aneninen

(4) - Nahdia,

Lowell

, projectmatt,

copper223

Kop

(3) - Nosferatu,

Expedience

, Egg

Killthestory

(1) -

Liger_zero

cytheflyguy (1) - Shaziro
zakk (1) -

Killthestory

Egg (1) - drmyshottyiszik
Shaziro (1) -

TehBrawlGuy

MagnaOfIllusion

(1) -

Persivul

EspeciallyTheLies

(1) - zakk

Not voting (1) -

EspeciallyTheLies

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

Ircher is V/LA until June 3.

Votecount 1.18

TehBrawlGuy

(7) -

Titus

,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Kop

,

Aneninen

, Ircher, cytheflyguy,

copper223

Kop

(4) - Nosferatu,

Expedience

, Egg,

TehBrawlGuy

Aneninen

(3) - Nahdia,

Lowell

, projectmatt

Killthestory

(1) -

Liger_zero

cytheflyguy (1) - Shaziro
zakk (1) -

Killthestory

Egg (1) - drmyshottyiszik

MagnaOfIllusion

(1) -

Persivul

Titus

(1) - zakk

Persivul (1) - EspeciallyTheLies

Not voting (0)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

Ircher is V/LA until June 3.

Votecount 1.22

Persivul

(10) -

EspeciallyTheLies, Lowell

,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Titus

,

copper223, Expedience

, Shaziro, zakk,

Killthestory

, Ircher

TehBrawlGuy

(3) -

Kop

,

Aneninen

, cytheflyguy

Kop

(2) - Nosferatu, Egg

Aneninen

(2) - Nahdia, projectmatt
zakk (1) -

Liger_zero

Titus

(1) -

TehBrawlGuy

EspeciallyTheLies (1) - Persivul

Not voting (1) - drmyshottyiszik

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-05 16:30:00) remain until day end.

Aneninen is V/LA until June 3.
MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until June 11.

Votecount 1.26

Persivul

(11) -

Lowell

,

MagnaOfIllusion

,

Titus

, zakk,

Killthestory

, Ircher,

Expedience

, Shaziro, cytheflyguy, projectmatt, Nahdia

Killthestory

(5) - Egg,

Kop, TehBrawlGuy, coppper223

, drmyshottyiszik

TehBrawlGuy

(1) -

Aneninen

EspeciallyTheLies (1) - Persivul

Kop

(1) - Nosferatu

Not voting (2) -

EspeciallyTheLies

,

Liger_zero

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-05 16:30:00) remain until day end.

Titus is V/LA until June 6.
MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until June 11.

Votecount 2.9

Kop

(9) -

Expedience

,

MagnaOfIllusion

, Nosferatu,

Aneninen

, drmyshottyizsik, Shaziro, Titus, Ircher,

Lowell

MagnaOfIllusion

(2) -

Liger_zero

,

copper223

projectmatt (1) - cytheflyguy

Titus

(1) - zakk

copper223

(1) - Nahdia

Aneninen

(1) - projectmatt
cytheflyguy (1) -

Kop

Not voting (1) - Egg

With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch someone.

cytheflyguy is V/LA until June 23
Egg is V/LA until June 19.

(expired on 2016-06-21 09:44:00) remain until day end.

[zakk]

I too am buying it

I also don't think moi is scum

my Titus scum read is pretty strong but I might be able to let it go (*music*) for the sake of discussion, because of some stuff I have to wait to talk about

feelin bored.

I think scum (if not Titus) is lurkin pretty hard at this point, because everyone here seems to be contributing in a worthwhile way that doesn't seem like regression, but feels like character development

Which feels town

I also wanna re-iso aneninen I never finished

[zakk]

Holy pedits batman

[Titus]

Why are there a bunch of suggestive colors in your VCS Ircher?

[Nahdia]

thoughts on Egg, zakk? I'm struggling to get a feel for the guy. part of me wants to say scum wouldn't bother with his ridiculous constant catchup antics but idk.

i also wanna take another look at projectmatt and liger.

[Nahdia]

actually i mean, thoughts on Egg can be an open question. what sort of interaction does that guy have with anyone

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok so looking at the VC scum is egg and zack. They are ALWAYS on opposing wagons and it almost seems methodical.

[Ircher]

Votecount 2.2

zakk (4) -

Lowell

,

Titus

, Shaziro, Ircher

Titus

(3) - cytheflyguy, drmyshottyizsik, zakk

Aneninen

(2) - projectmatt, Nahdia
Nosferatu (1) -

Aneninen

MagnaOfIllusion

(1) -

copper223

drmyshottyizsik (1) -

Kop

Kop (1) - Expedience

Not voting (4) -

Liger_zero, MagnaOfIllusion

, Egg, Nosferatu

With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-21 09:44:00) remain until day end.

MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until June 11.

Votecount 2.6

Kop

(3) -

Expedience, Lowell

, Ircher

Titus

(2) - zakk, drmyshottyizsik
zakk (2) -

Titus

, Shaziro

copper223

(2) - Nahdia,

MagnaOfIllusion

projectmatt (2) -

Aneninen

, cytheflyguy

Aneninen

(1) - projectmatt
cytheflyguy (1) -

Kop

MagnaOfIllusion

(1) -

copper223

Not voting (3) -

Liger_zero

, Egg, Nosferatu

With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-21 09:44:00) remain until day end.

[Nahdia]

ok but zakk is town.

[drmyshottyizsik]

They are both almost always on the two biggest wagons, but not the same wagon.

[drmyshottyizsik]

If it's not egg and zack it is egg and ircher, but everyone keeps yelling at me to stop tunnel ircher.

[Ircher]

Why are there a bunch of suggestive colors in your VCS Ircher?

Dead Town/Practically Confirmed Town

Possibly town; Soft-Claimed PR

Possibly scum (for setup reasons)

Confirmed Scum

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok ya, so the way ircher is treating the MoIputer I would feel good lynching ircher today

[Nahdia]

I mean, a neighborhood of 4 town is... not even slightly unreasonable?

[drmyshottyizsik]

I mean, a neighborhood of 4 town is... not even slightly unreasonable?

I keep forgetting who all is in da hood?

[Titus]

I mean, a neighborhood of 4 town is... not even slightly unreasonable?

It's not unheard of, just unlikely.

Pedit: Magna and Liger

[Titus]

Ok so looking at the VC scum is egg and zack. They are ALWAYS on opposing wagons and it almost seems methodical.

I can agree with this but it's not ideal methodology. Ideal method are to clear people first IMO.

[Nahdia]

I would really rather not lynch people just purely because of speculation on there being one scum in the hood.