New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Ircher]

I would really rather not lynch people just purely because of speculation on there being one scum in the hood.

It is off the wiki that such chances are high.

[Nahdia]

do u listen to urself when u talk?

[Ircher]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

[Nahdia]

Ircher

do u believe everything the wiki says?

[Nahdia]

i would screenshot this if i was at home but for posterity sake; the joke is that i edited his Scummer page to say "he's a lamer" at the top.

[Ircher]

I strongly believe that the Kop wagon was town led.

Pedit: Are you kidding me? Not 100%, but you're acting like this is a bogus conclusion when it really isn't. It's like wikipedia tbh: 95% of the time it's right, and when it's wrong, it generally gets fixed quickly.

[Nahdia]

anyone can say "in a pool of 4 neighbors, there's very likely one scum". that's such a horrible thing to use as a bounce pad to lynch someone though. it's a "fact", and scum love supporting themselves on facts, but it's not even hard and fast. it's a fucking stat. who is to say SirCakez could not have just put 4 town neighbors together? what stops him? nothing stops him, it's perfectly reasonable to expect he may have done that. i dont care about the statistics of what other mods have done. and ur hiding behind an outdated wiki with general statements is hilarious and honestly, p scummy to me.

i'm already voting u but now for EMPHASIS

VOTE: Ircher

[Titus]

I would really rather not lynch people just purely because of speculation on there being one scum in the hood.

Why do you think I didn't push for a hood lynch after Persivul? I am in agreement the wiki is usually right but that does not mean always

[Nahdia]

ircher i would say "i like you man but..." but honestly i don't like you and if you're town with this line of thinking, i also think you're pretty stupid.

[Ircher]

anyone can say "in a pool of 4 neighbors, there's very likely one scum". that's such a horrible thing to use as a bounce pad to lynch someone though. it's a "fact", and scum love supporting themselves on facts, but it's not even hard and fast. it's a fucking stat. who is to say SirCakez could not have just put 4 town neighbors together? what stops him? nothing stops him, it's perfectly reasonable to expect he may have done that. i dont care about the statistics of what other mods have done. and ur hiding behind an outdated wiki with general statements is hilarious and honestly, p scummy to me.

i'm already voting u but now for EMPHASIS

VOTE: Ircher

I never said it was true for this particular case. All I said is that scum is more likely to be found in the neighborhood versus elsewhere. And, if the wiki's so outdated, why not update it? You're trying to bring mod WIFOM into this and misrep what I say to paint me as scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

do u listen to urself when u talk?

I think it just sounds like *click clack keyboard sounds*

[Nahdia]

i mean if you're scum it's dumb too but at least i can understand you're using a crutch. a really bad, flimsy crutch, but some people just arent great scumplayers and that doesn't necessarily speak to their intelligence

[Nahdia]

you're like people who call godfathers bastard bc they return inaccurate cop results. this just in, mods don't design setups to be what's "likely". in fact, many mods will deliberately try to subvert their player's expectations.

[Titus]

i mean if you're scum it's dumb too but at least i can understand you're using a crutch. a really bad, flimsy crutch, but some people just arent great scumplayers and that doesn't necessarily speak to their intelligence

I really don't think Ircher is scum here. Talk to me about Shaz Egg and Zakk please.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Ircher

–

363 – Calls Anen possible scum for meta reasons (Micro 600). No apparent follow-up on that.

898 – Argues against a Town read Anen from HuerAlone again for meta reasons (Micro 600 and Newbie 1682).

1132 – Tells Nahdia to stop pushing for Anen votes. Given his previous posts related to Anen this is a strange 180.

1152 – Another defense of Anen – saying him being wrong doesn’t mean he’s scum.

2415 – This is a very soft attack on Anen – he basically is calling out Anen for Anen’s posturing on the Day 1 lynch.

2610 – Not sure what to make of this post. He asks Anen if PMatt is the only player he wants to lynch. Given daytalk … it doesn’t seem to serve a purpose. It doesn’t accomplish any distancing and Ircher could have prodded him to “do better” in the QT if that was the goal.

2859 – Anen is in his “Lean Town” on Ircher’s reads list. Reiterates this at 2891.

2974 – The only thing that rings in my head about this post is that he properly called Anen as being Vigged. Maybe nothing to it but I honestly was leaning Anen as SK shot, Copper Vig and Expedience as Mafia kill until Lowell claimed. Perhaps subconscious slip that he knows Copper was Mafia kill.

Conclusion

– Strong candidate for partner. A couple of early superficial suspicions of Anen until Anen actually catches some pressure from Nahdia. After that point it is almost entirely “Anen as Town” reads. I don’t think someone who honestly believes in the meta-tells he claims in the first two posts lets them go that easily.

[Nahdia]

worth noting the anen line that i felt was a scumclaim was him defending Ircher.

[Nahdia]

actually no it wasn't i msiread that nvm.

still, let's burn ircher.

[Ircher]

i mean if you're scum it's dumb too but at least i can understand you're using a crutch. a really bad, flimsy crutch, but some people just arent great scumplayers and that doesn't necessarily speak to their intelligence

1) Don't insult other people's intelligence
2) I'm not good at mafia in general. Since you decided to vandalize my wiki page (which might I add has been fixed), you should've noticed that I'm 5-14 for win/lose.
3) I made a generalization based on previous statistics. That's how statistics work. And just cuz there's a high probability doesn't mean it's going to happen. Not once did I say there is without a doubt scum in the neighborhood.

Pedit: I've lost most of the games I've been killed in.

[Nahdia]

sorry i went too far i apologize.

[Nahdia]

i dont think magna or liger is scum at this point though. i honestly think it's jsut as likely for one of them to be scum as any other group of 2 people in this game. the hood is a non-factor for me.

[Ircher]

Ircher

–

363 – Calls Anen possible scum for meta reasons (Micro 600). No apparent follow-up on that.

898 – Argues against a Town read Anen from HuerAlone again for meta reasons (Micro 600 and Newbie 1682).

1132 – Tells Nahdia to stop pushing for Anen votes. Given his previous posts related to Anen this is a strange 180.

1152 – Another defense of Anen – saying him being wrong doesn’t mean he’s scum.

2415 – This is a very soft attack on Anen – he basically is calling out Anen for Anen’s posturing on the Day 1 lynch.

2610 – Not sure what to make of this post. He asks Anen if PMatt is the only player he wants to lynch. Given daytalk … it doesn’t seem to serve a purpose. It doesn’t accomplish any distancing and Ircher could have prodded him to “do better” in the QT if that was the goal.

2859 – Anen is in his “Lean Town” on Ircher’s reads list. Reiterates this at 2891.

2974 – The only thing that rings in my head about this post is that he properly called Anen as being Vigged. Maybe nothing to it but I honestly was leaning Anen as SK shot, Copper Vig and Expedience as Mafia kill until Lowell claimed. Perhaps subconscious slip that he knows Copper was Mafia kill.

Conclusion

– Strong candidate for partner. A couple of early superficial suspicions of Anen until Anen actually catches some pressure from Nahdia. After that point it is almost entirely “Anen as Town” reads. I don’t think someone who honestly believes in the meta-tells he claims in the first two posts lets them go that easily.

I honestly did not pay much attn to Anen, much like in the newbie. Actually, the way I was reading Anen is practically the same thing I did in that newbie.

[projectmatt]

ok if i don't post solid A+ content tonight, u should policy lynch me. (this is my only way to stay motivated to post content in a game that i've become weirdly unmotivated toward.)

[Nahdia]

matt i joined this game for YOU. pls deliver

[drmyshottyizsik]

Come on guys don't lynch ircher he's just bad
ok bull shit aside can we lynch ircher?

[Ircher]

How many people are primarily lurking right now?