Newbie 1717: Newbies Through the Looking Glass (Game Over)

[innocentvillager]

Honestly I think this circleshitting session between Postie Titus RC and Accountant can happen on d2. I'd much rather get Lycan/Blank today.

Blank doesn't give major scumvibes necessarily, but definitely has not been towntelling. His reads aren't as scummy as much as they are bizarre.

I'm willing to lynch him based on the horribad scumminess of Pants/snoe.

Intent to hammer

[Postie]

Honestly I think this circleshitting session between Postie Titus RC and Accountant can happen on d2. I'd much rather get Lycan/Blank today.

Blank doesn't give major scumvibes necessarily, but definitely has not been towntelling. His reads aren't as scummy as much as they are bizarre.

I'm willing to lynch him based on the horribad scumminess of Pants/snoe.

Intent to hammer

no

NO

NO.

[Postie]

Someone unvote BlankFace right now please.

[Titus]

Y?

I say hammer away

[Postie]

Y?

I say hammer away

Okay I'm now happy to put Titus in my scumpool.

[innocentvillager]

Y?

I say hammer away

Okay I'm now happy to put Titus in my scumpool.

Postie, you were very recently all for lynching Blank. What happened?

[Postie]

Not today I wasn't! Accountant dies first,

then

we can sort out Blank/Lycan/Titus.

[Postie]

IV, have you read RC's case in 535? You don't get to just skip over it and then state intent on another player.

[Titus]

Y?

I say hammer away

Okay I'm now happy to put Titus in my scumpool.

Postie, you were very recently all for lynching Blank. What happened?

Where was Postie in favor of lynching Blank?

[Simoyd]

I still think Accountant should go first

[Harkonnen97]

Sorry RC, but I'll be too lazy tomorrow to make a wall

I suspect Blank's slot mostly because all 3 players who were in it have been scummy.

Pants

- No offense to him, but he was pretty useless. As a SE he should know better, that Town needs to be active to win.

snoe

- I don't like his 310. It looks to me like he is paranoid, and he desperately wants to get out of the bad position that Pants left him in, so he tries to snatch some town cred with those notes of his. The problem is, there is not really a point in them. I don't know what's the English idiom for that. Like, it looks like a big deal on the outside, but in reality, it's nothing.

When I questioned him about them, he admitted that he wrote them so we can townread him. He excused himself that he did it because Pants was being scumread alot, but he contradicted himself, because earlier he didn't want to admit that his slot is scummy, and instead said that Pants was a null read.

2) I need to give you all SOMETHING with which to read my slot.

Pants, bless him … didn’t

.

Pants did 5 posts and they were lazy and prod-dodging.

Scummy in a larger sense - they contributed nothing

.

First you say that Pants was a null read. Now you are saying a different thing.

Blank

- I really don't like him supporting Accountant so very much. If Accountant is lynched and flips town, it will look good on him. And if Blank gets lynched and flips scum, it will look bad on Accountant.

Also, we have 2 days left, right? Why hammer when we can discuss more, even for a little bit.

UNVOTE:

Blank is at L-2.

[Postie]

Thanks!

[Harkonnen97]

Mafia, I invite you to a WIFOM tango. Please kill me tonight, ok?

[innocentvillager]

IV, have you read RC's case in 535?

Sorry, I was actually just about to talk about that before you posted and then my computer froze on me so I lost my post.

Yeah, I read RC's case. Some of it I agree with, and the logic behind the case in general makes sense. A lot of it I don't know because most of it is still meta-shitting. Now, you and RC and maybe Titus can all speak to that since you've played with Accountant and stuff, fine. But you and RC can't expect to get others to just sheep you if RC's just assuming all these things about what town!Accountant would do or wouldn't do when there's no easy way to verify that.

That said, I'm leaning scum on Accountant, definitely more so after RC's case. But I like the snoe/Lycan scumteam a lot better, and I can reasonably entertain the possibility of a town!Accountant in this game. With snoe and Lycan I'm struggling to see them as anything but scum.

You don't get to just skip over it and then state intent on another player.

Um, yes I can? What kind of strongarming appeal to authority attitude is that? Off your high horses please. Just because RC finally comes out with his SOLE well-reasoned post this entire game doesn't mean I HAVE to read it and respond to it before making a vote. I'm disappointed by this part of your post.

How about "IV, have you read RC's case? If not, read it. Otherwise, explain why you're not voting Accountant." Not too hard, right?

[innocentvillager]

Y?

I say hammer away

Okay I'm now happy to put Titus in my scumpool.

Postie, you were very recently all for lynching Blank. What happened?

Where was Postie in favor of lynching Blank?

These suggest it:

*shrug* As long as we lynch all of Accountant/Lycan/snoe at some point we should be good.

If we kill Accountant we can just kill snoe the day after though...

Yeah, I'm good with lynching BlankFace after Accountant. Those reads are awful.

Looks like Postie obviously wants Accountant over BlankFace at least for today, but I don't see why she would get so upset if we lynched Blankface instead on d1. He's in her scumpool. IMO Postie overreacted.

I'm almost leaning scum on Postie, but at the same time I already have 3 scumreads which is a problem so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now.

[innocentvillager]

Y?

I say hammer away

Okay I'm now happy to put Titus in my scumpool.

Postie, where does this come from? You already knew at this point Titus is willing to lynch Blank right now, especially when she put Blank at L-1. So I'm not understanding why this quote suddenly makes Titus much more of a scumcandidate.

[Harkonnen97]

I'm up for a Day 2 or Day 3 Postie lynch.

[Simoyd]

even if blank flips town?

[Harkonnen97]

Hmm, good point. Then, not.

I think the scumteam is either Blank/Posty, or Accountant/X, where X is neither Blank nor Postie.

[Postie]

IV, have you read RC's case in 535?

Sorry, I was actually just about to talk about that before you posted and then my computer froze on me so I lost my post.

Yeah, I read RC's case. Some of it I agree with, and the logic behind the case in general makes sense. A lot of it I don't know because most of it is still meta-shitting. Now, you and RC and maybe Titus can all speak to that since you've played with Accountant and stuff, fine. But you and RC can't expect to get others to just sheep you if RC's just assuming all these things about what town!Accountant would do or wouldn't do when there's no easy way to verify that.

That said, I'm leaning scum on Accountant, definitely more so after RC's case. But I like the snoe/Lycan scumteam a lot better, and I can reasonably entertain the possibility of a town!Accountant in this game. With snoe and Lycan I'm struggling to see them as anything but scum.

You don't get to just skip over it and then state intent on another player.

Um, yes I can? What kind of strongarming appeal to authority attitude is that? Off your high horses please. Just because RC finally comes out with his SOLE well-reasoned post this entire game doesn't mean I HAVE to read it and respond to it before making a vote. I'm disappointed by this part of your post.

How about "IV, have you read RC's case? If not, read it. Otherwise, explain why you're not voting Accountant." Not too hard, right?

Sorry if I came across as harsh. It's just bad form to state intent on a player without addressing or even acknowledging the disagreements people have just brought up about your choice of lynch.

And the meta stuff is pretty credible given RC's track record when it comes to reading Accountant. That's not really something you can just ignore or heavily downplay because you haven't played with Accountant before yourself (I haven't either).

[Harkonnen97]

Hey Posty. If you were scum, would you kill me tonight?

[Postie]

Y?

I say hammer away

Okay I'm now happy to put Titus in my scumpool.

Postie, where does this come from? You already knew at this point Titus is willing to lynch Blank right now, especially when she put Blank at L-1. So I'm not understanding why this quote suddenly makes Titus much more of a scumcandidate.

I probably overreacted. It looked like Titus was trying to push the lynch through as quickly as possible and that freaked me out.

[RadiantCowbells]

Stop being so bad jfc.

[RadiantCowbells]

And yes, Titus is trying to push the lynch through quickly as possible and nightkill me.

That's not happening. we lynch Accountant today.

[innocentvillager]

Sorry if I came across as harsh. It's just bad form to state intent on a player without addressing or even acknowledging the disagreements people have just brought up about your choice of lynch.

Ah okay, sorry I interpreted your comment differently lol. I get that.

And the meta stuff is pretty credible given RC's track record when it comes to reading Accountant. That's not really something you can just ignore or heavily downplay because you haven't played with Accountant before yourself (I haven't either).

Stats on RC reading Accountant correctly/incorrectly?