Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

[Dwlee99]

And like right there you were saying no one should have town reads or scum reads?

[Dwlee99]

So Robbnva agrees we are out of rvs yet..

1. Has trashed those with town reads
   
2. Has no scum reads

nice

Nobody really should have either at this point. It's too early to get strong reads

[Dwlee99]

I also want your response to what I was saying in 66

[atm487]

So you dont have any reads on

anyone

?
Not even

a little

Where do you get that idea? Pretty sure I've stated mild suspicion on 2 people already.

can you name these two people? personally, I think its kinda of weird that you will just say "it is too early", i thought yea, maybe its too early but you can't just trash someone's reads and defend yourself. You need valid points on why so and so is not scum or town

[atm487]

So you dont have any reads on

anyone

?
Not even

a little

Where do you get that idea? Pretty sure I've stated mild suspicion on 2 people already.

can you name these two people? personally, I think its kinda of weird that you will just say "it is too early", i thought yea, maybe its too early but you can't just trash someone's reads and defend yourself. You need valid points on why so and so is not scum or town

OH, and then say that you have suspicion on people after saying that "it can easily be faked"

[Robbnva]

Everytime someone says someone is town read for *blank* I might as well say that it could be "easily faked".

Here's the thing. Most players see actions like being pro-active as a town tell. Smart scum notice these things and adapt because the point of the game as scum is to be town read as best as they can.

That's why some scum like to end Rvs as soon as possible because that's usually considered a town tell and people who prolong it are usually looked at suspicious.

Trying to start an Rvs wagon on somebody is easily the most common way to end Rvs. Now I can't say I've ever used that myself, I have seen scum do it.

People always lecture me at "looking at motives" and imo those early pushes didn't feel natural to me, they felt forced in an attempt the end Rvs instead of letting it progress naturally. That's why I don't see those actions as necessary town motivated. I also question people who do because it should be questioned.

Now back to creature. The post he made about not going to vote them for the remainder of the game rubbed me the wrong way. Nobody was accusing him of that and it felt out of place. If he were town I would think he would be more confident in his own opinions and wouldn't be rattled by somebody else's.

[Robbnva]

So Robbnva agrees we are out of rvs yet..

1. Has trashed those with town reads
   
2. Has no scum reads

nice

Nobody really should have either at this point. It's too early to get strong reads

Right I have no town reads and no scum reads but idk why you think that means I have no reads at all when I've said this

I definitely have issues with your play so far so you're definitely on my watch list.

And this

Well ok I didn't really say I am mildly suspicious of creature my questioning him and agreeing with smitherines post is inferring I'm keeping an eye on him also.


I wouldn't call mild suspicion a scum read

[Robbnva]

I also want your response to what I was saying in 66

I was actually responding to some of it as you were posting. Lmk if you need me to respond to anything else.

you can't just trash someone's reads and defend yourself. You need valid points on why so and so is not scum or town

1. Actually I can do whatever I want.
2. As already stated I don't have strong town or scum reads so not sure if that was meant for me or not.

[Dwlee99]

Everytime someone says someone is town read for *blank* I might as well say that it could be "easily faked".

Here's the thing. Most players see actions like being pro-active as a town tell. Smart scum notice these things and adapt because the point of the game as scum is to be town read as best as they can.

That's why some scum like to end Rvs as soon as possible because that's usually considered a town tell and people who prolong it are usually looked at suspicious.

Trying to start an Rvs wagon on somebody is easily the most common way to end Rvs. Now I can't say I've ever used that myself, I have seen scum do it.

People always lecture me at "looking at motives" and imo those early pushes didn't feel natural to me, they felt forced in an attempt the end Rvs instead of letting it progress naturally. That's why I don't see those actions as necessary town motivated. I also question people who do because it should be questioned.

Now back to creature. The post he made about not going to vote them for the remainder of the game rubbed me the wrong way. Nobody was accusing him of that and it felt out of place. If he were town I would think he would be more confident in his own opinions and wouldn't be rattled by somebody else's.

Okay I can see where youre coming from, although I disagree on some things regarding whether or not someone can be townread for things (Like the specific way they pushed early can be alignment indicative not necessarily that they pushed)
Onto creature, though, I think that his post was kind of warranted. The angle you were taking was that it was "dangerous" for creature to be town reading people early which was responded to by creature as it not being a big deal as it wasnt a firm unshakable town read he would have the whole game.
pedit mild suspicion is considered a scum lean which is still a read. As long as it isnt null it is some sort of read.

[Dwlee99]

ladhst

[Dwlee99]

Im bad at buttons. Can you explain what that means?

[Robbnva]

Guess we will agree to disagree cause mild suspicion just means they are on my radar but haven't seen enough to develop a scum read and rightfully so. Nobody has done anything this game that you can point to and say OMG he's totally scum.

[Robbnva]

Look at dwlee he's so town

[Robbnva]

Post 28 was a direct response to post 27

[Dwlee99]

oh. Why are you coming up with acronyms how am I supposed to figure that out

[Dwlee99]

Guess we will agree to disagree cause mild suspicion just means they are on my radar but haven't seen enough to develop a scum read and rightfully so. Nobody has done anything this game that you can point to and say OMG he's totally scum.

Eh whatever semantics blahblah but people have done things. one sec

[Dwlee99]

Hello, everyone! General question: what's your favorite dessert?
VOTE: Creature (I won't lurk this time if you don't.)

Town {Derek12}
Null {Everyone else}
Scum {Eggman, Crazy, Robbnva}

Dwlee: Why us in particular?

This

We have someone saying some stuff about creature lurking and then pretty much lurking and then their only attempt to do anything is to ask why Im scum reading them which is just wow
VOTE: Eggman
Moving my vote here cause I think robbnva would probably be doing what theyre doing as either alignment.

[Robbnva]

oh. Why are you coming up with acronyms how am I supposed to figure that out

1. All I did was modify LAMIST which is a known acronym in this site.
2. Because I can do whatever I want

[Dwlee99]

First time I have heard of LAMIST and I have 40+ games on site. That will be useful I guess lol

[Robbnva]

Yea I like to argue and it's not alignment indicative. I'm trying to not play argumentative and since that's not going so well I'm
Going to bed.

Gotta tell myself to stay calm, it's just a game lol

P.edit? Really? I've seen it quite a few times. :shrug:

[Dwlee99]

Thoughts on eggman if you are like me and continue to.check mafia when you go to bed?

[Robbnva]

lol

I don't mind your vote actually. I really kind of want everyone here posting before I start voting. I'm also kind of
Annoyed about something right now but can't really explain what or why atm

[Robbnva]

I'll ask you a question before my phone dies. What's your thoughts of atm who I basically guided him towards things he could give an opinion on and instead of doing that just started questioning me.

[Dwlee99]

Even though some people failed the basic reading test to properly confirm, I'm going to start the day regardless. Good luck people! (.. especially those unconfirmed)

clearly it will be a while until everyone posts

[crazycrabman]

Hey! Will read the 4 pages tonight!