New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Titus]

Then why won't you say it?

[Liger_Zero]

VOTE: Nosferatu

[Shaziro]

No.

Why not?

Two reasons, the first of which is that I don't feel like you'd claim like that. The second is for ~reasons~ that would be bad for town to be outed atm.

I did explahy I couldn't say my ~reasons~, that it would be bad for town. Now you're pushing for something bad for town, and rolefishing, and flailing. Christ alive.

Christ alive, Ircher, I've made it very clear that it is bad for town for me to explain it. You're either scum who actively wants town to suffer, or just a VI who can't accept that he's wrong. Either way, I'm not explaining more than I already have, so stop fishing.

You've decided I was claiming a role. I've made it clear that no, that's not what I was doing. You're refusing to believe that for no other reason than what appears to be an inability to accept that your assumption was wrong. I'm done with this. Vote me if you want, hell, make an actual case and you can lynch me, but I'm not elaborating more. When I've made it clear that it'd be bad for town and you're still pushing it, I'm done trying.

It. Would be. Bad. For Town. I have said this time and time again, and if you can't accept that, it's fine, but I'm not going to say more than that, and pushing for me to do so is anti-town as hell.

[Titus]

Bad for town is your conclusion. That's just circular as fuck shit. I'm town. Don't push my shit because I'm town and I say it's bad for town. Therefore it's bad for town.

If that's true, SCUM already know so there's no harm in telling me. If it's not true, it's a defense you're hiding behind to refuse to explain why you lied/crumbed the wrong role.

If you're really town, then it's important to get town work together rather than this anti-town bullshit you've spewed since Day 1.

[Egg]

I don't think he knew you were blocked. You're giving him a lot of credit for a new player with the whole crumbing thing. And if he WAS crumbing, when you asked him about it, he'd either say so or he'd deny it because he didn't want that info outted. I don't think opening up the "Is Shaziro a power role" converdation was a good idea on your part. You tend to want all of the information as soon as you can get it and that's just not how this game works ideally. Basically, I don't think he came off scummy in that interaction and I don't think you should have said half of what you did.

Oh great. So there's this mystical other interpretation about how he knows I killed no one and crumbed jk? I would love to hear it.

This whole mystical other explanation theory is simply so stunted.

Either he didn't crumb or he didn't want it outted. Mystical, I know.

[Titus]

But he DID crumb with ~reasons~ and he knows I didn't kill anyone.

The only reason to say reasons is to withhold until a later time, which gets town going the same direction.

Like holy shit did all of Mafiascum forget how to play mafia?

[Shaziro]

Bad for town is your conclusion. That's just circular as fuck shit. I'm town. Don't push my shit because I'm town and I say it's bad for town. Therefore it's bad for town.

If that's true, SCUM already know so there's no harm in telling me. If it's not true, it's a defense you're hiding behind to refuse to explain why you lied/crumbed the wrong role.

If you're really town, then it's important to get town work together rather than this anti-town bullshit you've spewed since Day 1.

Or, scum don't know, and they're being just as hardheaded as you. WIFOM for you is WIFOM for them too, especially if you are scum like I expect you are. Get over it.

[Ircher]

I hate WIFOM and Occam's Razor suggests you're scum lying.

[Shaziro]

You're ignoring that there is a much more simple answer.

[SirCakez]

projectmatt has been prodded.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 3.6

Mount Whitney in the United States!

Titus (5) - cytheflyguy, Shaziro, zakk, drmyshottyizsik, Nosferatu
Ircher (3) - Nahdia, Egg, Titus
Nosferatu (2) - projectmatt, Liger_zero
cytheflyguy (1) - Ircher
Egg (1) - Lowell

Not voting (1) - MagnaOfIllusion

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch someone.

Nahdia is V/LA until June 26.
MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until June 27.
zakk is V/LA until June 26.

(expired on 2016-07-02 18:44:00) remain until day end.

[Titus]

You're ignoring that there is a much more simple answer.

I am not ignoring it. I am asking you to say it.

[Nahdia]

hi guys.

[Lowell]

I'll jump on this, even though there's some scummy mofo's there.

VOTE: nos

[projectmatt]

Didn't even realize it had been 48 hours.

I'm really happy with the fact that the Nos wagon is gaining traction.

Maybe I'll post more content tonight if I don't feel too lazy.

[projectmatt]

Also, no matter how much I try, I simply can't see Titus as scum. I'm sorry. It just doesn't work for me.

[zakk]

Nos is also acceptable

Muuuuuuch prefer Titus

[Egg]

You're ignoring that there is a much more simple answer.

I am not ignoring it. I am asking you to say it.

Nah, there's no wagon on Shaziro. He doesn't need to claim just so you can understand what he meant.

[Titus]

You're ignoring that there is a much more simple answer.

I am not ignoring it. I am asking you to say it.

Nah, there's no wagon on Shaziro. He doesn't need to claim just so you can understand what he meant.

And he wouldn't need to if the solution is simple.

I caught him in a lie and cannot gt a wagon. Don't you think if he was town at least a couple scum would wagon him?

[Shaziro]

You're ignoring that there is a much more simple answer.

I am not ignoring it. I am asking you to say it.

Nah, there's no wagon on Shaziro. He doesn't need to claim just so you can understand what he meant.

And he wouldn't need to if the solution is simple.

I caught him in a lie and cannot gt a wagon. Don't you think if he was town at least a couple scum would wagon him?

"CLEARLY HE IS SCUM, NOBODY IS VOTING HIM!"

Well, I guess that means that we have 8 scum. Awful logic.

[Egg]

The fact that you assumed he blocked you doesn't mean he lied.

[Titus]

So you're going cosmic coincidence?

[Shaziro]

So you're going cosmic coincidence?

Titus. If you were town, by now you would realize that this is going literally nowhere and might even realize that you probably don't know what you're talking about (I don't take you for somebody who is so conceited as to not be able to see that they can be wrong and look for alternate answers without demanding them be outed publicly when you've been told that would be bad for town), and would be looking elsewhere for now with the intention to come back to this later. Even if you do think I'm lying, even if you do think I'm scum, you cannot possibly think I'm the only scum in this game. Why are you slamming your head against this wall, intent on acting to the detriment of town just so there isn't something you don't know, instead of scumhunting?

[Titus]

Wow, others disagree with you...you haven't agreed with logic you don't see... it's not scumhunting...

I am looking at you because I don't see this simple solution and I want an answer to why you crumbed what you did. Why should I look elsewhere because you refuse to answer? Every scum would refuse to answer with the exact trust me logic you put forth.

I am

voting

elsewhere because town is being dumb here.

We are STILL going to have 2 kpn per night, 3-4 scum alive and an SK. That's going to make it insanely hard to get a wagon on scum. Saying difficult = deterrent = bad pressure only wants me to defenestrate you more.

[Ircher]

VOTE:

Ircher