Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

[Smithereens]

The early incident vs Creature I'm convinced was actually a hit. I wasn't sure if it was just an over-reaction that town could have done, but seeing that Creature does not want Eggman to die for no good reason at all, I'm inclined to interpret his earlier reactions as scummy.

[Robbnva]

People think you voted creature to buddy me

I personally don't think that's the case especially since you have made great points about creature. These recent ones are also good. The unvote of egg man is weird. The reason he doesn't scum read him is also weird and there was no vt crumb so that imo is just a blatant lie.

I'd rather lynch creature but if people don't go there i don't really have an issue lynching egg man. We have plenty of time though so no need to rush an egg man lynch. Especially since I still need to catch up

[Smithereens]

Do you mean sheep you or Buddy you?

[Robbnva]

Buddy me because I wasn't voting creature. I was showing suspicion of him though.

[Smithereens]

An Eggman lynch would be quite informative about Creature, so I prefer to lynch Eggman over Creature despite my scum read on Creature being slightly stronger.

Lol about the buddying thing, it's as if it's illegal to scum read a player if someone else is already doing it hmm. If Creature was the one who brought that up, that's just going to fuel my scum read I think.

[Robbnva]

Yes creature was the one who brought it up. It was basically the reason for voting you

[Dragon of the West]

OK, now even I'm confused by this whole ordeal, which may or may not has been your intention.
I put the question so I could follow it up with "mine is vanilla ice cream", but you guys started a wagon on me while I was away and I had to claim before answering it.
I think Dwlee got it right.

You made multiple posts before a wagon formed on you though. I also don't understand why you wouldn't ask the question and give your own answer first.

I still don't understand why a vt would need to crumb vt to begin with.

thissssss

[Robbnva]

atm487 and F-oh-ex are looking town for me.

atm487 looks different from his game as scum, here he's actually pushing his reads.

F-oh-ex's posts seemed to have a sort of scum hunting rather than scum trying to make noise.

I agree with these two points. ATM is acting differently from the last game I played with him.

Since you agree can you do the same that I asked creature? Links to the posts f-oh-ex made that look like scum hunting?

Also as I stated earlier atm really didn't give any reads, rather avoided giving opinions imo. The only thing he gave was a very slight read on me and he wasn't even pushing me

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Smithereens

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Creature

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MarioManiac4

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Robbnva

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Dwlee99

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stelo

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Dragon of the West

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Derek12

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Akigoku

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F-oh-ex

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Eggman

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atm487

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crazycrabman

Spoiler: Days & nights

Day 1

Deadline is

07-07-2016 00:00:00 CEST

((expired on 2016-07-07 00:00:00)).

[Robbnva]

So far I feel that this is creature's town game. His posts feel to me to be made in a manner scum wouldn't, which from my limited experience is more hesitant to start a wagon and draw attention to themselves.

Creature's vote on smitherines was a direct response to smitherines vote on him. At that point creature is being reactive rather than proactive which you imply here. How does that change your opinion?

[Robbnva]

Smithereen's posts do seem scummy but two posts isn't enough for me to make a decision on.

Smitherines has probably made the better posts up until this point so I'd love you to point out which ones you find scummy and explain why

[Robbnva]

I find it pretty opportunistic the way you straight supported Robbnva at "can be easily faked" (see the bolded argument).

How is it opportunistic exactly?

[Robbnva]

Post 5 is an RQS that isn't even game-related.

Post 36 looks like scum trying to make Dwlee townread him.

Post 165 has no conclusion.

Post 188 sounds like pure noise/scum questioning.

So do you no longer agree with your original assment of egg? If no please show me which posts he made that made you change your mind. Cause I'm not buying your read changed because of the number of people voting him or that you supposedly think he crumbed vt (which he didn't)

[Robbnva]

I just realized I forgot that ending. Thanks Creature
What I was going to say was, F-oh-ex, Robb, and Dragon were the only ones to respond to my question.
On 188, I wanted to make a post to show I was reading, but I wasn't really sure what to say, so. Uh.
If it helps discussion any, right now I townread Dwlee, Dragon, and Creature.
Dwlee, because of the back-and-forth between him and Robb and his responses (they left me with a good feeling)
Dragon, because of gut mostly
and Creature, because in the other game I played with it (where it was mafioso) it didn't really post a lot and mostly lurked, and today it's been one of the most active players.

And lastly before I take a break. This would have been a great time to answer your own question since you made a point to mention who had answered already. You had 2 votes on you so that wasn't a wagon on you yet.

Why did you not answer it here? Or in the post (156?) that creature called out as not having a conclusion? Both would have been great times to answer.

[Creature]

I'd discount the number of people voting him, but honestly his crumb is pretty much genuine, so he's either VT or was planning to claim that, but I don't expect him to plan his claim tbh. Also, he's actually trying to contribute, which is a towntell for someone that looks pretty much mislynch bait (I've already played with him).

[Creature]

I just realized I forgot that ending. Thanks Creature
What I was going to say was, F-oh-ex, Robb, and Dragon were the only ones to respond to my question.
On 188, I wanted to make a post to show I was reading, but I wasn't really sure what to say, so. Uh.
If it helps discussion any, right now I townread Dwlee, Dragon, and Creature.
Dwlee, because of the back-and-forth between him and Robb and his responses (they left me with a good feeling)
Dragon, because of gut mostly
and Creature, because in the other game I played with it (where it was mafioso) it didn't really post a lot and mostly lurked, and today it's been one of the most active players.

[Robbnva]

But he didn't crumb vt and that doesn't even look like an attempt to crumb one

[Robbnva]

"I wanted to make a post to show I was reading, but I wasn't really sure what to say, so. Uh."

Does that really come from somebody who is town? It's easy for town to make posts that show they are reading, if they are actually reading

[Creature]

It looks like, vanilla reminds me of ice cream and ice cream is a dessert. Also, I don't see anything anti-town at crumbing VT specially if it's hard to notice if not pointed out.

[Robbnva]

PEDIT: VT. It's why I did the RQS: "vanilla" ice cream

General question: what's your favorite dessert?

But the first time he mentions vanilla is when he claims vt

Asking favorite deserts doesn't support that he was going to crumb VT

[Robbnva]

If anything VTs should try and give off a vibe they are a pr rather they are a vt

[Creature]

So his choice of question is a coincidence? He could ask something like "how many games you've played?" or "who's your favorite band?", but dessert isn't an usual question.

[Dragon of the West]

it's a crappy crumb if it is one considering it's not convincing, he's claiming the least risky role to claim if he is scum, and vanilla townie is probably the least crumbed role

[Dragon of the West]

the dessert question may have been on purpose, but at this point it doesn't make me believe that eggman would do that as vanilla townie. it feels like a scum leaving an easy crumb for themselves to claim

[Creature]

I can only see him doing that as scum if someone told him to.