Open 647: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[MURDERCAT]

I've already explicitly called you scum.

[Smithereens]

Actually I'm not even on your wagon, so IDK who you're referencing.

Names? Links? Posts?

[Smithereens]

I've already explicitly called you scum.

Could you reiterate your point(s)? It must have been lost in your many attempts to look really busy.

Or maybe this was one of those attempts too.

[MURDERCAT]

I think the people on my wagon are scummy. That's transcend, Karnos, podo. At least 1 is scum. I'm going to bed now, sorry tell me what you want specifically and I'll provide it tomorrow.

[Smithereens]

aye, I want your case vs me.

I have a feeling you're being reactionary atm. Especially re your wagon.

[MURDERCAT]

Actually before I sleep let me make a request. Since nothing is happening in this game anyway, how about you go read through a completed game of mine? Pick one at random I'm town in all of them.

[davesaz]

Official Vote Count

MURDERCAT

(4): Transcend, DixC, karnos, podoboq

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower, MURDERCAT

Smithereens

(1): SirCakez

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Transcend

(1): drmyshottyizsik

Aneninen

(1): Smithereens

Ranger

(1): Maruchan

PenguinPower

(1): Ranger

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-07-02 13:00:07)

[Transcend]

i'll probably give this a reread and post my thoughts here in the next couple of days

think we should use as much time as we can to come up with the best lynch because these votes are a MESS

srsly lol 8 slots being voted right now hahahaha

[Transcend]

anem is sucm. That reaction test was just a lie. And wen called on it after saying it was 2 tier btw, you just say oh nah it was nothing.

VOTE: anen

uhhh this is the most recent vote shotty has made, not sure why the log says he has a vote on me

[Ranger]

This is a scum driven wagon.

Looks that way, yes.

[Ranger]

VOTE: podoboq.

[Aneninen]

Ah, I think I missed that in the wall. I am inclined to think you (we, as in me, you, ranger) are wrong about penguin.

Unfortunately, it's possible.

wanna vote anenien

He's defending Smith like they are joined at the hip; super fast to vote palindrome just to get the heat off of smith...

As I said, I don't think Smith's scum. He was at L–2 or something like that when he started my wagon. As scum he could have pushed any existing wagon.

Scum team imo Ananenin + Shotty + Mudercat atm.

Where did that come from?
What do you think of Podoboq and Penguin?

I'm town reading Ranger for the same reason I am town reading Anen, and no I don't think it's meaningless,

at least not on day 1

.

And the highlighted part, that's the point behind some of my reads, too. Later we'll have more information to work with and things like "that looks like his/her towngame" won't hold water at all.

Fair enough response to tilt me over the fence.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: podoboq

PP votes podo, had already posted earlier that he was thinking about it...Not awful, but doesn't announce L-1...

L-1

We are either all on scum or there's scum on the wagon. So let's figure out if podo is legit scum or if some of the votes look sketchy.

...but MC does that. Seems like a sensible post.

That.

[Aneninen]

At this point, I'd lynch Smithereens, MURDERCAT, Ranger, or Aneninen for the "reaction test" bullshit

(and his terrible read on me, but ignore that part)

.

Consider me a vote on any of those wagons.

So, basically you'd lynch everyone who has a chance for getting lynched and it's not you. Good.
As for the "reaction test pigeon poop". I do things like that every now and then, by the way. But, what really bothers me is (1) suddenly you jumped on it and (2) spoilering the part about my read on you is

very

over-cautious. I mean, a townie would simply say, "your read s-ck" or something like that.

@ all of 334
Maru had one anti-me post, that was relatively small, when the game was very fresh. I didn't think much of it, then it pinged someone else, and I placed a vote there, mostly to move things along and see what reactions might look like.

Then, after Maru's follow up, it became obvious to me that he was town, and I haven't gone back on that ever since.

And this came six minutes after Murdercat's wall. You're trying it too hard.

Too

hard.

Those are two bad wagons imo. I'm think Anen is more than likely town, and murdercat is leaning either way for me right now.

My gut right now...it's between you and podo with a little shotty thrown in for good measure. But, I'm going to stick on podo for the same reasons I switched to him to begin with.

I don't know what to think of this. I just put it here to remind myself for later.

My vote on smithereens is feeling stale, time for a change.

VOTE: MURDERCAT

Karnos seems to play badly but I don't think he's scum.

anem is sucm. That reaction test was just a lie. And wen called on it after saying it was 2 tier btw, you just say oh nah it was nothing.

VOTE: anen

uhhh this is the most recent vote shotty has made, not sure why the log says he has a vote on me

Mod

: That above!

[podoboq]

And this came six minutes after Murdercat's wall. You're trying it too hard. Too hard.

I was in the thread at the time, as evidenced by a post I made ten minutes

before

the aforementioned wall. He made a blatantly dumb post about me, so I needed to respond to it.

[Transcend]

Anen why did you reaction test a slot that you townread? That doesn't look like genuine scumhunting. Wouldn't you be more likely to reaction test a player you think is scum?

[podoboq]

So, basically you'd lynch everyone who has a chance for getting lynched and it's not you. Good.

You're saying that my scumreads are the other four players most likely to get lynched? I think Transcend and shotty are easy mislynches, but I'm not gonna vote them, because I'm not confident enough in them being scum. Having four scumreads in day one for a thirteen player game isn't outrageous. Also, in what world is Ranger an easy lynch? I explained my scumread on her, and it gained basically zero traction.

Obviously I'm not gonna lynch myself.

As for the "reaction test pigeon poop". I do things like that every now and then, by the way. But, what really bothers me is (1) suddenly you jumped on it and (2) spoilering the part about my read on you is very over-cautious. I mean, a townie would simply say, "your read s-ck" or something like that.

1) You're right, I should have mentioned it earlier.

That was a reaction test on two levels. And you didn't give a scummy reaction.

The Smithereens wagon is bad.

At this point, I'd lynch Smithereens, MURDERCAT, Ranger, or Aneninen for the "reaction test" bullshit

(and his terrible read on me, but ignore that part)

.

Consider me a vote on any of those wagons.

Unfortunately, I didn't show up until later that day, when I immediately complained about it. No seriously, check. Anen's posts is made at 4:46am, my post is made at 2:50pm the same day, and I didn't post anything else in the thread in the interim. This is basically a misrep.

2) Spoiling was for comedic effect. If I were trying to be cautious, I wouldn't have said anything about how I scumread you for your terrible read on me.

[Aneninen]

And this came six minutes after Murdercat's wall. You're trying it too hard. Too hard.

I was in the thread at the time, as evidenced by a post I made ten minutes

before

the aforementioned wall. He made a blatantly dumb post about me, so I needed to respond to it.

Okay. Noted.

[Aneninen]

Anen why did you reaction test a slot that you townread? That doesn't look like genuine scumhunting. Wouldn't you be more likely to reaction test a player you think is scum?

Because I knew that I hadn't read the posts there thoroughly and I questioned my own read. I thought that little test would help me sort Smith out in either way. (It didn't help, though, but his vote after the story did.)

I need to go now, sorry.

[Transcend]

nbd

hmph. game's hard.

[podoboq]

My vote on smithereens is feeling stale, time for a change.

VOTE: MURDERCAT

Karnos seems to play badly but I don't think he's scum.

You did leave out the part of post 345 where he provides his reason for voting Murdercat.

I want to see who jumps on again and who doesn't and why. And yeah of course podo could be town thinking smith is scum, I still don't love voting with scum reads though.

I don't like this.

312 I didn't like that either.

Not going to link the whole iso, but a lot murdercat's other stuff just looks like busy posts or fake read lists.

My vote on smithereens is feeling stale, time for a change.

VOTE: MURDERCAT

This seems like genuinely good scumhunting to me. I don't know why you'd call him a bad player, and remove the part of his post where he's being a legitimately good player, but hey, you do you, man.

[MURDERCAT]

I think Transcend and shotty are easy mislynches

slip

[podoboq]

I think Transcend and shotty are easy mislynches

slip

I literally said I don't scumread them. I think they're town. I think town could lynch them today. Ergo, I think they're easy mislynches.

[MURDERCAT]

Saying "I don't like this" "I don't like this" "other stuff is bad too" "I feel like changing my vote" is not good scum hunting lmao. Like I don't think Karnos is a bad player but that isn't "genuinely good scumhunting."

[Transcend]

Gross now I gotta make sure I don't actually tr podo because I've had him as town all game and the reasons escape me.

PEDIT: gun to head, karnos is town.

[podoboq]

Saying "I don't like this" "I don't like this" "other stuff is bad too" "I feel like changing my vote" is not good scum hunting lmao. Like I don't think Karnos is a bad player but that isn't "genuinely good scumhunting."

I liked "but a lot murdercat's other stuff just looks like busy posts or fake read lists" because it's correct. It's good scumhunting, because you're scum, and he pointed out the thing you're doing that's scummy.