meanwhile sickofitIn post 2247, Zachstralkita wrote:I hate you.
He's made like 4-5 posts since he came back and you just label him town. You give out townreads too easy.
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He's not. That's why I asked him. He says Titus you're dumb every time.In post 2243, Zachstralkita wrote:Lapsa wrote:also - won't defend myself, won't answer any questions
will prod dodge and occasionally remind that titus is dumb
Yeah, and now you're intentionally being unhelpful. I don't see a reason to keep you here.
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It's PV.In post 2247, Zachstralkita wrote:
I hate you.In post 2246, Dunnstral wrote:OK Peregrine is probably town to be honest...
He's made like 4-5 posts since he came back and you just label him town. You give out townreads too easy.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Then this from you,
Seems to indicate that, from Almost50 posts (pre-Dunn) indicate to you as town.In post 119, Zachstralkita wrote:Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Almost50
I'll need a 3 paragraph case on this, complete with numbered list thanks
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Now Zach gets to experience how I've felt all game dealing with varsoon, wake88, and podoboq, on top of shannonIn post 2257, PeregrineV wrote:why was he that strong a townread that you would need a three paragraph numbered list?- Zachstralkita
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PeregrineV wrote:@Zach-
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Then this from you,
Seems to indicate that, from Almost50 posts (pre-Dunn) indicate to you as town.In post 119, Zachstralkita wrote:Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Almost50
I'll need a 3 paragraph case on this, complete with numbered list thanks
Based on what he posted before you strongly implied he was town, why was he that strong a townread that you would need a three paragraph numbered list?
Lmfao I asked for a three paragraph numbered list because Dunnstral can't case someone to save his fucking life
@Lapsawagon lapsa is fucking town, u heard it here last
anyways.
ooh, I had to just include this here.In post 1018, implosion wrote:Well I'm sorry you feel that way.
I think from this pool boem is town (I agree with whoever called 959 town, and some of his other recent posting pings town as well, e.g. 964, 966).I wrote:This leaves a pool of (in no particular order) {wake, agar, mirhawk, boem, peregrine, airick, varsoon}.
Airick is null, Wake is impossible to read.
Varsoon eh. Don't feel strongly about him yet. But I think I'll be able to get a read on him from a bit more posting.
I can see peregrine scum, although I don't have any particularly strong reasons atm beyond gut. I've explained why I think AGar is scum for the wallpost. I found Mirhawk's early posts scummy and still do on reread but need to look at his other stuff more since he's actually been active.
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implosion expresses his disdain for voting a V/LA player earlier, then proceeds to vote a lurker who had not made any recent posts..
His vote has not moved from here.
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Nos, probably because he actually had gut vibes from me. Even if he's scum, it was probably him trying to emulate something he'd have said as town and not anything deeper than that.In post 2047, Boem_u_dusi wrote:Implosion, why do you think Nosferatu and PeregrineV expressed their negative gut read on you (bad vibes) early on?
Peregrine, also possibly that, or possibly just trying to sow the seeds of a future push as scum potentially.
I'm having some trouble finding people that I'm actually enthusiastic about lynching. I'd still be happy with AGar pressure but there seems to be a lot of AGar-town sentiment flying around the room. The other scumread I currently have is Mirhawk but I do need to re-evaluate it and I've been a bit lazy about isoing him. I'd honestly also be satisfied with a lurker lynch (peregrine) because I have a lot of townreads and I'm not a fan of his posting so far in particular. Airick also maybe but it seems like we're about to get content from him possibly.Transcend wrote:So implosion who is a better lynch than Titus and yourself?
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the rest of his scumreads (AGar, Mirhawk) he's very wishy-washy on them and not really ready to commit to anything at all. Take AGar for instance.
" There seems to be a lot of AGar-town sentiment flying around the room "
Name someone besides me doing that? Also, why should it matter if your scumread is townread by people? Titus and Dunnstral have no problems doing that.
" Airick also maybe " this is bullshit, he's posted almost nothing that could be considered alignment indicative. What I gathered is implosion doesn't want to lynch active players, he does AND doesn't want to lynch the lurkers, but anyone but himself is fair game.- PeregrineV
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Trying to assign early reads based only on RVS.In post 2254, Boem_u_dusi wrote:Okay PeregrineV, can you elaborate further on that gutread on implosion? Because I found it interesting that so many people have a negative gut read about him while my gut says nothing. Both you and Nosferatu/Vedith expressed that gut read very early in the game.
Toenreading Almost50 for no content.
Injecting into the Titus-Wake back and forth.
That was first 8 pages.
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lol..that makes more sense.In post 2259, Zachstralkita wrote:PeregrineV wrote:@Zach-
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Seems to indicate that, from Almost50 posts (pre-Dunn) indicate to you as town.In post 119, Zachstralkita wrote:Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Almost50
I'll need a 3 paragraph case on this, complete with numbered list thanks
Based on what he posted before you strongly implied he was town, why was he that strong a townread that you would need a three paragraph numbered list?
Lmfao I asked for a three paragraph numbered list because Dunnstral can't case someone to save his fucking life
Bolded is good point.In post 2259, Zachstralkita wrote:@Lapsawagon lapsa is fucking town, u heard it here last
anyways.
ooh, I had to just include this here.In post 1018, implosion wrote:Well I'm sorry you feel that way.
I think from this pool boem is town (I agree with whoever called 959 town, and some of his other recent posting pings town as well, e.g. 964, 966).I wrote:This leaves a pool of (in no particular order) {wake, agar, mirhawk, boem, peregrine, airick, varsoon}.
Airick is null, Wake is impossible to read.
Varsoon eh. Don't feel strongly about him yet. But I think I'll be able to get a read on him from a bit more posting.
I can see peregrine scum, although I don't have any particularly strong reasons atm beyond gut. I've explained why I think AGar is scum for the wallpost. I found Mirhawk's early posts scummy and still do on reread but need to look at his other stuff more since he's actually been active.
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In post 2051, implosion wrote:
Nos, probably because he actually had gut vibes from me. Even if he's scum, it was probably him trying to emulate something he'd have said as town and not anything deeper than that.In post 2047, Boem_u_dusi wrote:Implosion, why do you think Nosferatu and PeregrineV expressed their negative gut read on you (bad vibes) early on?
Peregrine, also possibly that, or possibly just trying to sow the seeds of a future push as scum potentially.
I'm having some trouble finding people that I'm actually enthusiastic about lynching. I'd still be happy with AGar pressure but there seems to be a lot of AGar-town sentiment flying around the room. The other scumread I currently have is Mirhawk but I do need to re-evaluate it and I've been a bit lazy about isoing him. I'd honestly also be satisfied with a lurker lynch (peregrine) because I have a lot of townreads and I'm not a fan of his posting so far in particular. Airick also maybe but it seems like we're about to get content from him possibly.Transcend wrote:So implosion who is a better lynch than Titus and yourself?
implosion has a hard time finding active players to lynch because he has to essentially make up scumreads on them.
the rest of his scumreads (AGar, Mirhawk) he's very wishy-washy on them and not really ready to commit to anything at all. Take AGar for instance.
" There seems to be a lot of AGar-town sentiment flying around the room "
Name someone besides me doing that? Also, why should it matter if your scumread is townread by people? Titus and Dunnstral have no problems doing that.
" Airick also maybe " this is bullshit, he's posted almost nothing that could be considered alignment indicative. What I gathered is implosion doesn't want to lynch active players, he does AND doesn't want to lynch the lurkers, but anyone but himself is fair game.
But, would almost want to lynch Airlick first.
*sigh*
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The very fact that implosion voting Peregrine isn't pinging him speaks volumes.
PeregrineV wrote: Bolded is good point.
But, would almost want to lynch Airlick first.
*sigh*
Will iso implosion later. But, he is not generally a lynch choice for me on day1.
I'm not sure how I feel about " generally "
Games are a case-by-case basis, no?
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Dunnstral wrote:I don't care who we lynch
As long as it's not:
Me
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Varsoon
Wake
Podoboq
PeregrineV
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And to a lesser degree not:
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Let Lapsa go. Vote implosion.Dunnstral wrote:I don't care who we lynch
As long as it's not:
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There's a very important difference; a lurker can potentially be pressured into posting, while a V/LA player cannot. Or they might happen to post in which case you can see their reaction to the vote.Zach wrote:implosion expresses his disdain for voting a V/LA player earlier, then proceeds to vote a lurker who had not made any recent posts..
Which I have justified.Zach wrote:His vote has not moved from here.
This is just insulting.Zach wrote:implosion has a hard time finding active players to lynch because he has to essentially make up scumreads on them.
I'm an experienced player on this site. I'm not going to have trouble as scum making up scumreads on people. It's not hard. As town, however, I don't get to pick and choose what my reads are on each player.
This is because they are weak scumreads; they're just the scummiest players in the game, which makes those reads strong relative to the rest of the player list.Zach wrote:the rest of his scumreads (AGar, Mirhawk) he's very wishy-washy on them and not really ready to commit to anything at all. Take AGar for instance.
Wake.Zach wrote:Name someone besides me doing that? Also, why should it matter if your scumread is townread by people? Titus and Dunnstral have no problems doing that.
It means a few things. It makes me question my read on him (because, unlike all of you fuckers, i don't think my reads are better than everyone else's and I actually at least somewhat agree with some of the points in favor of agartown like his handling of the masons).
Imagine I have a number for each player, and when someone does something townish that number goes down and when they do something scummy it goes up. Airick's number is 0, but that's still the fourth-highest number in the game, which is pretty solid as far as I'm concerned. Again. I have a lot of townreads. If you look at almost any of my towngames you will find that I have a much easier time obtaining townreads than scumreads. Almost every game.Zach wrote:" Airick also maybe " this is bullshit, he's posted almost nothing that could be considered alignment indicative.- Zachstralkita
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no fucking shit i'm going to respond if you make a case on me. I'm keeping up with the thread pretty consistently. There's just not always anything that warrants posting. Y'know, because I've posted a lot and want to let others post some more? You don't seem to understand that about this game :/.
And yes, they do. There's nothing town in them. Him calling himself blatant town in his reads list is disingenuous because if he's town he should know he's not obvious (although that's a minor point). The lack of willingness to lynch me is also strange (if I'm one of his scumreads and he's felt like my tone was off early I really don't know why he wouldn't want to). That lack of willingness changing to willingness (specifically him begrudgingly saying he'd iso me) is also somewhat strange/potentially scummy depending on his justification for why he didn't want to lynch me.
I haven't played with peregrine probably in 5 years so I don't remember his play well, but there is really nothing in there that makes me want to unvote him. And again, I play the game mostly by finding townreads.- Titus
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I actually haven't really been paying attention to Vedith's posts. My early reason for townreading sickofit decayed over time but his tone in his most recent post sounds really genuine.
Looking at Vedith's ISO I think I'm willing to lynch the slot. Nos was one of my weakest townreads and his take on the Titus thing feels kind of like he wants to policy lynch her for the fakeclaim without calling it a policy lynch. It feels like he might be scum who feels like scum is entitled to the mislynch after Titus misplayed. "Claiming mason when you are not mason is scum to me" in 2142 is a very 1-dimensional view of the game.- Zachstralkita
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Except now I'm posting because I'm casing someone thus finding scum thus helping win the game, I'm not just loitering. I owe some real progress to make up for the 40+ pages of mason shit.In post 2270, implosion wrote:"random"
no fucking shit i'm going to respond if you make a case on me. I'm keeping up with the thread pretty consistently. There's just not always anything that warrants posting. Y'know, because I've posted a lot and want to let others post some more? You don't seem to understand that about this game :/.
Yes. That is a minor point. When I find out who else in this game did that and you didn't vote them for it, I'll be sure to let you know.implosion wrote:
And yes, they do. There's nothing town in them. Him calling himself blatant town in his reads list is disingenuous because if he's town he should know he's not obvious (although that's a minor point).
So you play the game by finding townreads, but it follows that players that post more have more to pick at, and you can find what's not town in their statements. Not easy, but it should be doable. Yet you have no scumreads in majorly active players aside from Mirhawk. And even now, you're voting Peregrine.- implosion
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The point is that he's done nothing that I can imagine he would think would be perceived as obvious town; other people doing it would be reasonable (I wouldn't fault you for it, for instance).Yes. That is a minor point. When I find out who else in this game did that and you didn't vote them for it, I'll be sure to let you know.
And?Zach wrote: So you play the game by finding townreads, but it follows that players that post more have more to pick at, and you can find what's not town in their statements. Not easy, but it should be doable. Yet you have no scumreads in majorly active players aside from Mirhawk. And even now, you're voting Peregrine.
I think a lot of the scum in this game are in the lurkers.
Some of my townreads are probably scum as well (it's not like I expect my reads to be perfect) but I don't see why this is so complicated. - implosion
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