Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

[crazycrabman]

Yeah, I'm reluctant to scum read Smithereen on two posts that he made. Two posts is not enough to judge anyone on.

He's posted more since then, what are your thoughts on the posts?

I think that the "what's your favorite desert question" was definitely on purpose. I don't know what way that points eggman, though.

Ok so, do you have any thoughts on Eggman beyond this? Or any player not named Creature? Your recent posts still have little to no real content.

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As for the VT crumb I don't really see crumbing VT as alignment indicative. It seems kinda pointless as both town and scum, and I could see him doing it as either alignment. I still think crazy is a better wagon, which is why people should join me on it.

1- I'm have a minor townlean on smithereen now and I feel his attitude is what I expect from town.
2- I feel that eggman is acting odd and I feel that cruming VT is what scum would tell him to do day 1. It is possible that he just found out about crumbing and thought it would be a way to dissuade any suspicion against him. I'll be doing a chart later today on town and scum reads.

[crazycrabman]

atm487 and F-oh-ex are looking town for me.

atm487 looks different from his game as scum, here he's actually pushing his reads.

F-oh-ex's posts seemed to have a sort of scum hunting rather than scum trying to make noise.

I agree with these two points. ATM is acting differently from the last game I played with him.

Since you agree can you do the same that I asked creature? Links to the posts f-oh-ex made that look like scum hunting?

Also as I stated earlier atm really didn't give any reads, rather avoided giving opinions imo. The only thing he gave was a very slight read on me and he wasn't even pushing me

I see him scumhunting in posts 5, 6, and 8 in his ISO.
About ATM, last game I played with him he was very apprehensive of criticism and did give reads on some poeple.

[Robbnva]

8 happened after you made that statement so that technically doesn't count
6 is a list read and doesn't get considered as scum hunting
so basically 5 is his only scum hunting post? It's weird you think it's a good post and to me it looks like a post that anyone could fake.

so you town read him off basically 1 post yet later you said this about somebody else

Two posts is not enough to judge anyone on.

so how can you judge somebody off 1 post (even if I include his number 8 iso that makes 2) but you can't judge somebody else off 2 posts? seems weird to me.

as for atm, so it's meta based off 1 game? meh but ok for now.

I would like to see more fo

[Robbnva]

vote: eggman

I believe this puts him back to L-1

[Sméagol]

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crazycrabman [

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Derek12

Abstaining [2]:

Akigoku / crazycrabman

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Smithereens

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Creature

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MarioManiac4

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Robbnva

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Dwlee99

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stelo

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Dragon of the West

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Derek12

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Akigoku

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F-oh-ex

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Eggman

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atm487

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crazycrabman

Spoiler: Days & nights

Day 1

Deadline is

07-07-2016 00:00:00 CEST

((expired on 2016-07-07 00:00:00)).

[atm487]

noone gonna hammer the scum?

[Creature]

Let me see:
- stelo and Akigoku did absolutely nothing.
- MarioManiac4 has just talked about his meta but stopped giving contributions.
- It's creepy how much tunneling there were.
- We have 7 days.
- I still think Eggman will flip town.

[Eggman]

If we're talking about my logic for crumbing, here it is. If we weren't, here it is anyway.
So far, all games I've played with Vanilla Townies had them confirmed by the setup. So, a VT claim would be rather useless as defense, no?
I don't know how the common opinion on VT claims is with closed setups, as this is my first with that. So in case I had a wagon started on me, which has happened quite a lot in my experience, I wanted to have something else to back up my "useless" claim. As F-oh-ex pointed out, I did kinda forget to answer it, so that leads us to here right now.

(I feel like I'm talking too much about myself, and not enough about you guys. Any way to fix that..?
Also, I'm reconsidering my scumread on Derek, because it seems that the friendliness between him and Dwlee could be from them being IRL friends. Those avatars are too similar to be a coincidence.)

[Eggman]

As Creature pointed out, we have a week. Let's not be hasty.
(I like your town game more than your mafioso, Creature.)

[Derek12]

Ok, so can everyone give me their thoughts on crazycrabman?

His ISO screams first time scum to me.

[Robbnva]

So far, all games I've played with Vanilla Townies had them confirmed by the setup

This game has VT confirmed by the setup even though it's closed. The mod's are required to provide a sample VT role pm that is used in the game. this is a normal game. Normals are guranteed to have at minimum 1 VT (and more likely 3/4 of them)

I also don't like how you basically implied you know creature is town.

If you want to stop talking about yourself, stop talking about yourself and start interacting with people.

You have played other games where you were town, so you should know how to at least do that right?

Ask questions or have conversations with people about game related things. I mean this isn't your first rodeo so why are you acting like it is? (Don't answer that. It's rhetorical cause I don't really care.)

P.edit - I'm not a fan of him either.

[Creature]

Eggman is reading me because I look different from Newbie 1703.

[Creature]

Also, we can return to Eggman anytime, so what's the problem with pressuring someone else specially when there are very few actively posting?

[Robbnva]

Who said there is a problem with it? If you want to pressure somebody go right ahead

[Derek12]

atm487:

Do you have any scumreads that aren't Eggman currently?

[crazycrabman]

I am very open to change but currently:
town {}
townlean {Atm, Creature, Derek, Smithereens}
null {Dwlee, DotW, F-oh-ex, Robnva}
scumlean {Eggman, Mario*, Stelo*}
scum {}

*Due to inactivity

[Eggman]

Crabman:

In your 401, you said you'd make a chart later today. Well, it's later - did you chart it out?

[atm487]

atm487:

Do you have any scumreads that aren't Eggman currently?

so far, no, i'm still looking at all the posts, but other than Robb(only slight read) i can't think of anyone

[Derek12]

Crabman:

In your 401, you said you'd make a chart later today. Well, it's later - did you chart it out?

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I am very open to change but currently:
town {}
townlean {Atm, Creature, Derek, Smithereens}
null {Dwlee, DotW, F-oh-ex, Robnva}
scumlean {Eggman, Mario*, Stelo*}
scum {}

*Due to inactivity

[Derek12]

This is the second time so far you've made a post like this that got answered before you've even made it.

It's hard to tell if you really care about the response if you can't be bothered to see if it's been answered before.

[Dwlee99]

because it seems that the friendliness between him and Dwlee could be from them being IRL friends

not irl friends but we are friends lol

[Dwlee99]

I think I need to like read over some of the recent posting again but I happen to not feel like it right now

[Dragon of the West]

8 happened after you made that statement so that technically doesn't count
6 is a list read and doesn't get considered as scum hunting
so basically 5 is his only scum hunting post? It's weird you think it's a good post and to me it looks like a post that anyone could fake.

so you town read him off basically 1 post yet later you said this about somebody else

Two posts is not enough to judge anyone on.

so how can you judge somebody off 1 post (even if I include his number 8 iso that makes 2) but you can't judge somebody else off 2 posts? seems weird to me.

as for atm, so it's meta based off 1 game? meh but ok for now.

I would like to see more fo

For the record, that one game where atm was apprehensive and wouldn't put out reads, he was scum. But atm just seems clueless to me in general so I really don't put much weight on anything he does. I feel like he's a liability even when he would be town so who knows

[atm487]

what, is that an insult

[Smithereens]

it's an observation, don't be offended.