Open 647: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[SirCakez]

Why aren't you happy with the Smithereens wagon?

Because it has people I'm suspicious of on it, while being on a player I do not find suspicious.

I disagree on the latter, I find Smith highly suspicious. The voters are so-so.

This is a scum driven wagon.

And what makes you say this?

I think the people on my wagon are scummy. That's transcend, Karnos, podo. At least 1 is scum. I'm going to bed now, sorry tell me what you want specifically and I'll provide it tomorrow.

This is a pretty weak scum pool.

[SirCakez]

Karnos is pushing murdercat for looking like he's just trying to look busy.
I'm pushing murdercat for looking like he's just trying to look busy.
Murdercat says Karnos is probably town, but I'm coming up with BS reasons to push him, when Karnos and I have the same reason to push him.

There is an inconsistency there.

I don't think Murder is trying to look busy, he is getting wagoned after all...

My reads are mostly the same. Transcend has moved to my town pool for really obvtown posting over the last few pages. Maru and Podo have also moved into my townpool.

So townpool = (Maru, Podo, Transcend)
Scumpool = (Smith, Dix, Penguin)

[MURDERCAT]

Because I think I'm obv town, duh. DixC was also on me, I just missed a name.

Actually though, the fact that none of my strong town reads are on me makes me suspicious of my wagon.

[Smithereens]

VOTE: Smithereens

L-1 someone quick hammer.

[MURDERCAT]

Scum claim

[Smithereens]

night 4 cop.

[Smithereens]

I know 2 of the scum team and I don't know who the last one is. When I get lynched you go through my list on my behalf thank you.

[MURDERCAT]

Who are the 2 scum you know

[Smithereens]

[Anen] + [Yourself/shotty].

[Transcend]

Rope it.

[karnos]

VOTE: Smithereens

L-1 someone quick hammer.

Yeah, I picked the worst time to come back and then get distracted by my son, wish I could have put in my vote before this.

In my experience, self voting like this is popular among scum, your claim not withstanding.

Intent to hammer.

To be fair, I'll wait until morning, approx 8 hours from this post. If anyone doesn't want to see smithereens lynched, now is your chance to unvote.

[davesaz]

Official Vote Count

Smithereens

(6): SirCakez, Transcend, podoboq, MURDERCAT, Maruchan, Smithereens

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower, Ranger

MURDERCAT

(2): DixC, karnos

Aneninen

(1): drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-07-02 13:00:14)

[Smithereens]

It's a fucking info lynch. Hammer.

[Smithereens]

And then get rid of Aneninen, Mudercat, Shotty and Podo.

[Aneninen]

Quickpost.
We're not lynching Smithereens.

That self-vote is the kind of newbie-town thing which might occour when someone feels over-confident about their reads.
Trust me, I did the same pigeon poop in my very first game on Mafiascum. Needless to say, I named the scumteam totally wrong.

Smithereens.
Informational lynching in this situation will not help town at all.
Consider this.
You

may

be true about those names whom you think are scum. There are percentages for each of them. (Obviously, I know that I'm town and the % on me is 0%, but obviously, I'd say the same as scum.)

BUT
You

know

your alignment. If you're town, advocating your own lynch is bad, because from

your

point of view, the probability for a scumflip will be 0%. Lynching

anyone else

will give you a better chance.

See my point?

(There

is

a chance that Smithereens is indeed scum and he's fooling us right now, but I

think

this chance is very, very low. From

my

point of view, lynching anyone else would give us a better chance. Obviously, anyone else but me, which is from my point of view, 0%. However, I'd say the same as scum, so...)

[Transcend]

How come instead of responding to my case and proving it wrong you instead resort to WIFOM-ing and asking to be roped?

[Smithereens]

If you had a case against me then it's crap and it's wrong. You can take this incident as a learning opportunity, your reads are no more accurate than a random guess.

I'll explain how encouraging my own death works in end game. Suffice to say that one of the reasons is to double the credit of my reads without having to deal with annoying people who can't read me correctly, like yourself. I can't be bothered acting town in order to get my reads across, and I'm in too many games anyhow, so the best course of action is to simply lynch me and then credit my reads as being from a genuine confirmed town.

Simple.

[Ranger]

Smithereens (6): SirCakez, Transcend, podoboq, MURDERCAT, Maruchan, Smithereens

Hey guess what.
The wagon's literally half-comprised of three scumreads.
The only townreads there are SirCakez, Murdercat, and Smithereens himself.

It's a very bad wagon.

[Maruchan]

willing to policy lynch smithereens at this point. any town who is willing to self vote at any point in the game is inherently playing against his win condition, and therefor not following the spirrt of the game minimum, rules depending on the mod. No town member should ever actively play against their win condition and lynch someone they have undeniable mod proof of the alignment

If you ever self vote as town, know you just stopped playing mafia to win.

[Ranger]

^Maruchan is scum who knows Smithereens is flipping town.

[Smithereens]

He must be the third scum hey.

[Smithereens]

For your reference Maruchan, I'm actively pursuing my wincon.

[MURDERCAT]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: DixC

Let's try this. By the way Smith did you read the last game? Someome did what you are doing (assuming you are town) and was completely wrong.

[MURDERCAT]

Wait that Maru post is so bad.

VOTE: Maru

[drmyshottyizsik]

^Maruchan is scum who knows Smithereens is flipping town.

I can agree with that.
VOTE: Maru