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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:37 pm

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mhsmith wrote:Ok so what about it do you hate?
It just feels like a bad wagon.
Quite the RANGE.
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:48 am

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In post 700, Ranger wrote:
mhsmith wrote:Ok so what about it do you hate?
It just feels like a bad wagon.
If you're actually town, and for real don't like the btd wagon, please give me something to work with. "Just feels" is a pretty non answer.

Or as I was told in a post game a while ago, literally about the exact same phrase...
Saying something "just feels" some way indicates that you want your audience to believe something, but you are unwilling / unable to back it up with a sound assessment.

People who are invested in learning more about other players spend a lot of time looking at things from different angles. Sure, they can have blind spots, but "just feels" is not acceptable to soneone making an effort to learn.

Since mafia already know the truth, they aren't able to make genuine discovery, only simulate it. "Just feels" is sometimes as far as they can get, because they are trying to spin doctor.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:21 am

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I meta'd BTD and he gives a semi scummish vibe in his town games too.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:19 am

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In post 702, innocentvillager wrote:I meta'd BTD and he gives a semi scummish vibe in his town games too.
Yeah it makes me a bit nervous too. It's one reason I haven't voted them yet. I still think ranger is probably the best lynch. Def. want to hear from the subs when they come in though.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:23 pm

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I'm still looking for replacements. Nothing to report here.

I'm sorry for the long delay =(
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:09 pm

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I still think mhsmith is scum, most likely with Musicslot thanks to waiting on the replacements so much.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:43 am

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Walk me through how this specific reason makes sense. Also please walk me through how and why you thought btd's end of day one was meaningfully town indicative.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:45 am

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Oh ya this game. Waiting for replacements
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:22 am

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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:48 am

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Here are my current reads.

Weak-moderate Town: Kappy, Shotty, Alpaca
Null-weak scum: Touka's slot, Ranger
Moderate scum: Mhsmith, M&M's slot
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:56 am

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In post 709, BTD6_maker wrote:Here are my current reads.

Weak-moderate Town: Kappy, Shotty, Alpaca
Null-weak scum: Touka's slot, Ranger
Moderate scum: Mhsmith, M&M's slot
Why on me, and why on m&m? Naked reads are still naked.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:43 am

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In post 698, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 697, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 679, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 654, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 636, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 621, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:@BTD why do you think that Smith is scum?
I have a dream that someday BTD will answer my question
On the topic of explaining who scum is...
Yeah it sure would be nice if btd ever got around to explaining themselves and their reads...
There is literally 0% chance you haven't seen this, and I would love an answer
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:45 am

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In post 710, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 709, BTD6_maker wrote:Here are my current reads.

Weak-moderate Town: Kappy, Shotty, Alpaca
Null-weak scum: Touka's slot, Ranger
Moderate scum: Mhsmith, M&M's slot
Why on me, and why on m&m? Naked reads are still naked.
You should have been following my progression for M&M. Naked reads are still reads.

As for you, with every new post, you seem to get scummier.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:02 am

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In post 712, BTD6_maker wrote:
In post 710, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 709, BTD6_maker wrote:Here are my current reads.

Weak-moderate Town: Kappy, Shotty, Alpaca
Null-weak scum: Touka's slot, Ranger
Moderate scum: Mhsmith, M&M's slot
Why on me, and why on m&m? Naked reads are still naked.
You should have been following my progression for M&M. Naked reads are still reads.

As for you, with every new post, you seem to get scummier.
This remains a non answer. What about my posts is scummy? Actual reasons, dude. Getting reasons from you shouldn't be like pulling teeth.

Ditto m&m. Yes, I see that you scum read them. What I don't see is WHY you did so. Reads without reasons are just noise.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:13 am

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In post 713, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 712, BTD6_maker wrote:
In post 710, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 709, BTD6_maker wrote:Here are my current reads.

Weak-moderate Town: Kappy, Shotty, Alpaca
Null-weak scum: Touka's slot, Ranger
Moderate scum: Mhsmith, M&M's slot
Why on me, and why on m&m? Naked reads are still naked.
You should have been following my progression for M&M. Naked reads are still reads.

As for you, with every new post, you seem to get scummier.
This remains a non answer. What about my posts is scummy? Actual reasons, dude. Getting reasons from you shouldn't be like pulling teeth.

Ditto m&m. Yes, I see that you scum read them. What I don't see is WHY you did so. Reads without reasons are just noise.
I gave enough reasons for M&M if you actually bothered to read my ISO.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:15 am

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And for me? Despite my unending requests for backyp on your read on me? Hell, alpaca could be mafia and you've provided him the perfect target to bark at solely for your unwillingness to engage.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:22 am

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In post 647, BTD6_maker wrote:
In post 646, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Ya I don't like playing with RC much either sometimes. RC has a tendency to throw elbows if you know what I mean. It can be fun, but RC has a way of just getting to people sometimes.
I agree. RC just says "you're scum" or something along those lines, never with justification, and commonly wron, which has led to my "perpetual scumread" on him. Every time I see RC, I know he's going to be as stubborn as always and detrimental to Town.
This and similar quotes (ex 499) seems to be your read basis. Seems you're scum reading for a play style you don't like, as opposed to actual scum hunting. Am I wrong? If so, how? I see something of an actual read basis in 269 but it's both ancient and weak. What else do you have on that slot?
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:25 am

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Let me try it a different way: why should I believe you're town? What investment in game solving have you shown? Why should I believe you're not just a wolf who's active lurked and made a bs hammer on bs reasons?
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:11 pm

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Mod: V/LA for today, and all Wednesdays in July.

Means no posting from me until tomorrow.

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Quite the RANGE.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:50 pm

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Titus replaced Touka
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:53 pm

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Vote count 2.8

AlpacaAlpaca - (1) Music and Mail
mhsmith0 - (3) Ranger, Titus, BTD6_maker
BTD6_maker - (2) Kappy, drmyshottyizsik

Not Voting - (2) AlpacaAlpaca, mhsmith0

With 8 eligible to vote, is takes 5 to lynch.

Still seeking a replacement for Music and Mail

Deadline on hold for replacements.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:54 pm

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Oh we're on. Thought it was night lol.

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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:54 pm

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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:58 pm

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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:18 pm

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Hey Titus. Shouldn't you be replacing rc slot, since you're his alt? :P
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