Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

[Dragon of the West]

Eggman - I don't like how fast the wagon on him formed

Ok I remembered wrong the wagon actually formed quite slowly

That said I don't like smithereens' or atm's jumps on.

I don't like just about everything atm does

[Infinity 324]

Do you think it's scum or just bad town

[Creature]

atm487 looks like a mislynch bait tbh

[Infinity 324]

Yeah that's what I was thinking too

[Dragon of the West]

Yeah but he seemed like VI in the last game creature, crab, dwlee, and I played with him. All of day one we just thought he was a dumb town member and then he ended up being scum. It just makes me weary of him and his play. It's frustrating

[Creature]

But he seems to be trying to actually contribute here.

[Creature]

I want more from Dwlee on his crab case because I'm really not seeing it.
I'm definitely going to be more active this weekend, but I should be here more tonight too.

Hi.

Tonight, Mario.

Mario, Tonight.

[Dragon of the West]

But he seems to be trying to actually contribute here.

I haven't felt them to be actual contributions. More like someone asks him something and then he says something along the lines of "I don't know" or "I don't have a read on them" and then moves on

[Creature]

So you dont have any reads on

anyone

?
Not even

a little

Where do you get that idea? Pretty sure I've stated mild suspicion on 2 people already.

can you name these two people? personally, I think its kinda of weird that you will just say "it is too early", i thought yea, maybe its too early but you can't just trash someone's reads and defend yourself. You need valid points on why so and so is not scum or town

So you dont have any reads on

anyone

?
Not even

a little

Where do you get that idea? Pretty sure I've stated mild suspicion on 2 people already.

can you name these two people? personally, I think its kinda of weird that you will just say "it is too early", i thought yea, maybe its too early but you can't just trash someone's reads and defend yourself. You need valid points on why so and so is not scum or town

OH, and then say that you have suspicion on people after saying that "it can easily be faked"

Well other than a slight(EMPASIS ON SLIGHT) scum read on Robb, I can't think on who to vote for

OK listen, so I have been inactive lately because I have had alot on my mind and some stuff happened, but listen. I know for a fact creature is town, his posts are very revealing and if he's playing scum, he very good, if not, then he is very good at town too, rooting out the obvious people that have been active, for now, I would like to re-review all the posts and wait a little before voting, because many of us have been active and I am having a hard time deciding who to vote for, my apologies

ok, I have decided
VOTE: Eggman
So far eggman has defended himself, but then shited blame to someone else. For example, he would, in one post, address all the claims against him with little defense, but insteadm address heavily why someone like Dwlee in scum or how someone else is suspicous. So this is why i am voting for him.

noone gonna hammer the scum?

atm487:

Do you have any scumreads that aren't Eggman currently?

so far, no, i'm still looking at all the posts, but other than Robb(only slight read) i can't think of anyone

Well the reason I am not calling Robb scum is because I feel that he is a slight scum lean. It just feels kinda weird, some of his posts just don't quite fit right with me

If anything VTs should try and give off a vibe they are a pr rather they are a vt

So this is one of the only ones I got a strong feel from. So lets say someone is town right, that means most of the time their actively scum-hunting and trying to win the game for the town. This vibe would be shown early on and you claim its better to show this vibe or to show your VT vibe rather than keep to your self until actual evidence can be used against people, but maybe this is just opinion. But instead of trying to be the person that is tryng to scum-hunt, you denouce your vote on my and hop on the wagon, even though you claimed to vote for me because I voted for you(idk actually why you voted for me). I'm trying to say that its weird that you try to scum-hunt but wait till the wagon is full enough to join without suspicion. I joined the wagon and presented my evidence why, why I had waited and why I thought it would be good to lynch eggman

OK so seeing robb's post(BTW your response hurt my feelings, and yes you did vote for me at one point) I believe he is town. He may be harsh to new players, but its obvious he did call me out on my bullshit and I am apologizing for basically wrongly accusing you, but still, some posts don't seem completely town, but so far, no posts have been scum in my opinion

[Creature]

Surely, if they were an average player I would push him harder, but compared to Newbie 1715, he looks very different.

[Dragon of the West]

Thanks I already read through his full ISO. Very different is a bit of a stretch but he's not exactly the same. I wouldn't expect him to employ the exact strategy as last time though considering it's a good amount of the same people...

[Sméagol]

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Creature [

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F-oh-ex

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crazycrabman

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Smithereens

MarioManiac4 [

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Dragon of the West

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Creature

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Infinity 324

Derek12 [

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MarioManiac4

Eggman [

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atm487

crazycrabman [

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Derek12

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Dwlee99

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Eggman

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Robbnva

Abstaining [1]:

stelo

There are 13 active players.
Absolute majority is

7

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Majority has

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Spoiler: Current player list

[01]

Smithereens

[02]

Creature

[03]

MarioManiac4

[04]

Robbnva

[05]

Dwlee99

[06]

stelo

[07]

Dragon of the West

[08]

Derek12

[09]

Infinity 324

[10]

F-oh-ex

[11]

Eggman

[12]

atm487

[13]

crazycrabman

Spoiler: Days & nights

Day 1

Deadline is

07-07-2016 00:00:00 CEST

((expired on 2016-07-07 00:00:00)).

[Smithereens]

watching you Dragon~

O.o

[Robbnva]

Surely, if they were an average player I would push him harder, but compared to Newbie 1715, he looks very different.

What if he is an average player and he's just very manipulative?

[Derek12]

Surely, if they were an average player I would push him harder, but compared to Newbie 1715, he looks very different.

What if he is an average player and he's just very manipulative?

You said you read parts of Newbie 1715 right? I skimmed it for fun a bit before this game started, and it makes me highly doubt this.

[Robbnva]

I played a game with a player who played the newb card and was town read for most of the game. Can't remember if scum won or not but the player admitted afterwards she was manipulating town.

I lov manipulating to cause they easily write things off as town that are so easily faked.

Maybe that's not the case for atm, but maybe it is. That's how my mind works though. I know how manipulative I can be so I expect it from everyone else

[Infinity 324]

I played a game with a player who played the newb card and was town read for most of the game. Can't remember if scum won or not but the player admitted afterwards she was manipulating town.

This is true, but my gut says that's not what atm is doing here. I'll check that other game and see though

I lov manipulating to cause they easily write things off as town that are so easily faked.

But this coming from the player who said calling out a 180 made him town...

[Robbnva]

Yes because that's not manipulative. That's just smart play. Cmon infinity you are a better player than this

[Infinity 324]

It doesn't have to do with being manipulative, I just find that you saying that while calling yourself town for calling out something simple like creature's 180 is contradictory.

What did you think about my comment about you doing logic-based scumhunting, do you think it's true? Cause if you're town I think that's leading you on the wrong track. If you're scum it looks like a convenient way to call scum town.

And you know me? I know you're an alt but -_-

[Infinity 324]

If you're scum it looks like a convenient way to call scum town.

And vice versa

[Robbnva]

I use logic all the time.

And I know of you. You may know of me exactly but maybe a family member of mine.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah but calling someone scum for lying about a simple thing or a logical contraction or something is :/

For example, you calling out creature for the "lie" doesn't make sense to me because given creature's style from what I've seen, it makes sense that he would misremember something, while I think very few scum would blatantly lie about something so easily checked. It just seems too easy.

I read atm's ISO in the game creature brought up, and I agree with creature that he's playing quite differently from there. He brings up many more of his own opinions in this game, despite having less posts overall. Still I wish he would post more so I can get a better read on him :/

[Infinity 324]

I don't like the part where you say "I use logic all the time", it kinda looks like an attempt to discredit me by making me look silly. You could've just said "I don't know what you mean" or something

[Robbnva]

Yeah but calling someone scum for lying about a simple thing or a logical contraction or something is :/

Cmon creature's lie wasn't some simple thing and I'm not buying it's something he misremembered since he was the one who brought it up. When you use something as evidence you make sure the evidence is right.

[Robbnva]

I don't like the part where you say "I use logic all the time", it kinda looks like an attempt to discredit me by making me look silly. You could've just said "I don't know what you mean" or something

How does me stating a fact about myself make you look bad? You brought up the question as to if I use it or not. So I answered you