New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Zachstralkita]

I'd like to know the other 4.

Lapsa's Interactions

25 - dunnstral vote
28 - dunnstral
32 - implosion
35 - implosion
190 - performer
191 - dunnstral
192 - wake88
203 - dunnstral unvote
206 - implosion
210 - sickofit
213 - dunnstral
215 - zachstral
217 - shannon
218 - nosferatu/transcend
219 - boem
281 - titus
282 - performer
284 - zachstral
287 - boem
288 -

mirhawk

(looks like distancing instead of a real thought process)
289 - zachstral
294 - podoboq
296 - zachstral
298 - zachstral
302 - peregrine
305 - almost50
346 - podoboq
414 - podoboq
415 - shannon
416 - performer
417 - performer
419 - implosion
420 - implosion (reads list, leaves out mirhawk)
421 - podoboq
452 - podoboq
454 - zachstral
456 - titus
462 - titus vote
498 - titus
502 - zachstral
504 - titus
521 - lapsa
539 - titus
566 - titus
567 - agar
623 - dunnstral
626 - wake88
627 -

mirhawk

vote (looks like distancing)
699 - zachstral
703 - zachstral
704 - zachstral
709 - zachstral
711 - zachstral
716 - zachstral
718 - varsoon
721 - zachstral
729 - zachstral
734 - zachstral/titus vote (asked to question mirhawk; doesn't)
739 - read list (mirhawk mafia - no interaction)
742 -

mirhawk

(strange, saying it is worth towncred when it came before his reads list, but doesn't influence it)

Past this point, he never interacts with mirhawk again.

Mirhawk's Interactions

16 - podoboq vote
88 - sickofit
196 - sickofit
200 - dunnstral
243 - wake88
244 - performer
251 - zachstral
252 - performer
432 - dunnstral
435 - performer
639 - boem
640 - performer
641 - dunnstral
644 - shannon
645 - transcend
649 - mirhawk
650 - performer
652 - zachstral
655 - zachstral
656 -

lapsa

(about the macho claim, aka filler)
657 - zachstral
658 - zachstral
660 - titus
662 - transcend
664 - dunnstral
665 - varsoon
667 - zachstral vote
717 - zachstral
719 - zachstral
731 - dunnstral
735 - zachstral
737 - dunnstral
740 -

lapsa

(about painbringer, aka filler)

He never talks about Lapsa past this point (until now when I brought them up as a scum team)



Also notable: both don't interact with Almost50 in that time frame

In post 2335, Almost50 town reads both Lapsa and Mirhawk
In post 2549 I ask Almost50 to do an iso of mirhawk; he goes on to do one of performer who is of similar length to mirhawk, but gives an excuse about length for "not doing other people"
Almost50 also responded to the macho claim by Lapsa, in 423

[Dunnstral]

You serious?

[AGar]

Dunn is probtown, with Zack and Wake. (Hey guys, note that all 3 of these players are also saying they won't lynch Titus, and are pretty universally being town-read. When three players won't lynch someone that are being fairly townread across the board... see above. Then think about how fucking stupid the idea that "AGAR UNVOTED TITUS HERP DA DERP" is. And then go fuck yourselves.)

AGar, if you're referring to me please note where my current vote is.

You also posted this prior to me unvoting. Link Your revote came after my unvote and the wagon on me picked up steam.

[Titus]

I want to lynch one of lapsa/mirhawk today

I'd lynch Lapsa. Mirhawk I don't like but would lynch at deadline.

[Dunnstral]

I'm willing to lynch whichever of the two gets more votes.

[Wake1]

Dunn is probtown, with Zack and Wake. (Hey guys, note that all 3 of these players are also saying they won't lynch Titus, and are pretty universally being town-read. When three players won't lynch someone that are being fairly townread across the board... see above. Then think about how fucking stupid the idea that "AGAR UNVOTED TITUS HERP DA DERP" is. And then go fuck yourselves.)

AGar, if you're referring to me please note where my current vote is.

You also posted this prior to me unvoting. Link Your revote came after my unvote and the wagon on me picked up steam.

That's irrelevant. If you're Town good job trying to dump shade on me when I've been going after Titus all Day. I'm frustrated with this game because Titus is the better lynch, and like usually happens I'll be shown to be correct during mid/late game. If people don't want to lynch Titus today, fine, but that will not make me change my vote.

[Almost50]

What scumteam would nightkill shannon?

One that wants to deprive town from (a) one conf!town, and (b) someone who IS voting them off

[Almost50]

Almost50, how come shannon is now confirmed town to you? What if I claimed something here out of the blue, would that make me confirmed town also? Tell me so I do that.

Are you as inexperienced as she is?? She pointed out her one previous game with me and -as I remember- EVERYONE in that game sucked to the point I eventually couldn't convince the remaining townie I subbed into a town slot no matter how hard I tried (not to mention I misread him in LyLo at 3-2, but they somehow managed to lynch the right person bc his buddy eventually bussed him).

Regardless, I'm seeing her as inexperienced town (but with room to improve, so don't take it bad, Shannon). I don't see what scum would claim a VT out of the blue and without pressure too.

[Zachstralkita]

What scumteam would nightkill shannon?

One that wants to deprive town from (a) one conf!town, and (b) someone who IS voting them off

How is shannon conftown? Saying you're VT doesn't necessarily make it so, and even then she has to realize her claim was an anti-town move to begin with.

[Almost50]

In post 2549 I ask Almost50 to do an iso of mirhawk; he goes on to do one of performer who is of similar length to mirhawk, but gives an excuse about length for "not doing other people"

And now I know you're skimming, bc I did do an ISO of Mirhawk in the very same post I did the performer ISO.

Not just that, but Boem quoted the whole post so if you missed it once you should've spotted it the second time!!!

[AGar]

Dunn is probtown, with Zack and Wake. (Hey guys, note that all 3 of these players are also saying they won't lynch Titus, and are pretty universally being town-read. When three players won't lynch someone that are being fairly townread across the board... see above. Then think about how fucking stupid the idea that "AGAR UNVOTED TITUS HERP DA DERP" is. And then go fuck yourselves.)

AGar, if you're referring to me please note where my current vote is.

You also posted this prior to me unvoting. Link Your revote came after my unvote and the wagon on me picked up steam.

That's irrelevant. If you're Town good job trying to dump shade on me when I've been going after Titus all Day. I'm frustrated with this game because Titus is the better lynch, and like usually happens I'll be shown to be correct during mid/late game. If people don't want to lynch Titus today, fine, but that will not make me change my vote.

No, it was entirely relevant to why I switched. I would also like to see Titus lynched today, but I realize that the sway necessary to make that happen is gone. I'm not trying to dump shade on anyone (what the fuck does that even mean?), I am simply stating the facts that had caused me to switch my vote since I'm being crucified for acting in the best interest of the town and trying to generate something rather than parking my vote on a wagon that, while I think it would be ideal, was clearly stagnant at that point in time, and seems highly unlikely to pick up any fresh steam.

And quit with the mightier than thou bullshit. Sometimes, as town, you abandon what you think is your strongest read, because you just don't have the means to convince everyone else, in order to facilitate a successful lynch or generate pressure, because without either of those things, we stand little-to-no chance.

[Almost50]

How is shannon conftown? Saying you're VT doesn't necessarily make it so, and even then she has to realize her claim was an anti-town move to begin with.

At least half of us have done anti-town stuff, mate. I ask again, and I want you to THINK about it.. when you had less than 5 games under your belt, would you have claimed ANYTHING as scum with just 2 votes on you (i.e. L-8)????

OK, second question: If you felt the heat and wanted to gambit -as scum- would you have claimed a VT in a CLOSED SETUP??

[Zachstralkita]

How is shannon conftown? Saying you're VT doesn't necessarily make it so, and even then she has to realize her claim was an anti-town move to begin with.

At least half of us have done anti-town stuff, mate. I ask again, and I want you to THINK about it.. when you had less than 5 games under your belt, would you have claimed ANYTHING as scum with just 2 votes on you (i.e. L-8)????

OK, second question: If you felt the heat and wanted to gambit -as scum- would you have claimed a VT in a CLOSED SETUP??

I feel like the chances of me doing that would be slightly higher than me claiming mason with a townie? Idk maybe I'm a pussy

[Titus]

Dunn is probtown, with Zack and Wake. (Hey guys, note that all 3 of these players are also saying they won't lynch Titus, and are pretty universally being town-read. When three players won't lynch someone that are being fairly townread across the board... see above. Then think about how fucking stupid the idea that "AGAR UNVOTED TITUS HERP DA DERP" is. And then go fuck yourselves.)

AGar, if you're referring to me please note where my current vote is.

You also posted this prior to me unvoting. Link Your revote came after my unvote and the wagon on me picked up steam.

That's irrelevant. If you're Town good job trying to dump shade on me when I've been going after Titus all Day. I'm frustrated with this game because Titus is the better lynch, and like usually happens I'll be shown to be correct during mid/late game. If people don't want to lynch Titus today, fine, but that will not make me change my vote.

No, it was entirely relevant to why I switched. I would also like to see Titus lynched today, but I realize that the sway necessary to make that happen is gone. I'm not trying to dump shade on anyone (what the fuck does that even mean?), I am simply stating the facts that had caused me to switch my vote since I'm being crucified for acting in the best interest of the town and trying to generate something rather than parking my vote on a wagon that, while I think it would be ideal, was clearly stagnant at that point in time, and seems highly unlikely to pick up any fresh steam.

And quit with the mightier than thou bullshit. Sometimes, as town, you abandon what you think is your strongest read, because you just don't have the means to convince everyone else, in order to facilitate a successful lynch or generate pressure, because without either of those things, we stand little-to-no chance.

I really like this.

Agar, can you review the Mirhawk and Lapsa cases and tell me what you think?

UNVOTE:

[Transcend]

hmmm

[Zachstralkita]

What's goin' on in the thought compartmentalizations Transcizzle, I'm going to be thoroughly interrogating you this game (think guantanamo bay with jumper cables) so I don't get tomato mafia'd again.

[Transcend]

my answer to all your interrogations will be applesauce >:)

[Zachstralkita]

Hey buddy where's your reads list this game?

[Transcend]

i don't really feel like making one until we get a flip of some kind.

I think what i'll do is just give a list of people I will openly not rope today unless they're the leading wagon and it's almost DL:(in no order)

Airick
Zach
Dunn
AGar
Wake
Titus
Performer
Shannon
Bee
Boem

I don't think I missed anyone. Varsoon has been pretty bleh recently. Could be massively down with an implo rope but he won't get enough momentum and I won't get enough motivation to case him.

[Transcend]

eh i probaly won't rpoe a50 either. i really have to iso lapsa some time.

[Dunnstral]

eh i probaly won't rpoe a50 either. i really have to iso lapsa some time.

Like, now preferably

Or look at that big post I just made

[Lapsa]

Titus is dumb

[Lapsa]

And now I know you're skimming, bc I did do an ISO of Mirhawk in the very same post I did the performer ISO.

skimming... right...

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm tired

vc 1.21

Titus (4):

shannon, Lapsa, Varsoon, Wake88

Vedith (4):

AGar, Performer, PeregrineV, Zachstralkita

beeboy (1):

Boem_u_dusi

AGar (5):

Airick10, Almost50, podoboq, implosion, beeboy

shannon (2):

Vedith, Mirhawk

Mirhawk (2):

Dunnstral, Transcend

Not Voting:

Titus

With

19

votes,

10

to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-07-05 23:38:55)

Wake88 is

V/LA

until

7/4

.
Performer is

V/LA

until

7/4

.

beeboy

replaces Sickofit1138.

[Dunnstral]

In post 2549 I ask Almost50 to do an iso of mirhawk; he goes on to do one of performer who is of similar length to mirhawk, but gives an excuse about length for "not doing other people"

And now I know you're skimming, bc I did do an ISO of Mirhawk in the very same post I did the performer ISO.

Not just that, but Boem quoted the whole post so if you missed it once you should've spotted it the second time!!!

Yeah I'm skimming those posts in particular....

Didn't see that you did mirhawk on the same post as performer