Micro 622: Queen Mafia GAME OVER

[Postie]

You thought they were a team earlier because of the interactions between them on page 3, so I take it you like their interactions on this page?

No, it's nothing to do with how they've interacted.

[duppin]

You thought they were a team earlier because of the interactions between them on page 3, so I take it you like their interactions on this page?

No, it's nothing to do with how they've interacted.

You misunderstand, I'm not asking if your read is based on that, I'm asking you if you liked their recent interactions since you called them out for it earlier.

[Postie]

Actually yeah, I think so.

Theres actually a reason BNL might be just weird in general, so its kind of a reason I don't want to lynch him today at all.

This kind-of thing doesn't feel SvS.

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Votecount 1.08:

Aristophanes (3): GuiltyLion, TellTaleHeart, Elyse
Fire Assassin (2): Aristophanes, Iprobablysuck
Postie (2): duppin, BulletNLynchproof
Elyse (1): Fire Assassin
BulletNLynchproof (1): Postie
TellTaleHeart (0):
Iprobablysuck (0):
GuiltyLion (0):
duppin (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-12 17:00:00).

Song:

Queen: Death On Two Legs

Notes:

Yuteel's favourite Queen album!

Aristophanes has been prodded.

[BNL]

Never mind, Postie is town. Back to Elyse~

UNVOTE: Postie
VOTE: Elyse

[duppin]

Hm. I'd really like to hear from Aristo at this point.

[Elyse]

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

His scumread on me is so lazy and the only time he's addressed me lately is to say he's "unsure" of my posting. He's not engaged with most of the players and hasn't even addressed the accusations against him regarding his awful sheeping of FA's "case".

[Aristophanes]

Hm. I'd really like to hear from Aristo at this point.

I'm back. Sorry all!
Gonna read up before bed I guess.

[Aristophanes]

I find it interesting that you are more worried about it than I am, IPS.

Vote him

Vote him

Because you Omgus'd him?
Or because he is displaying a newbie characteristic?

I think it's off Ari threw a little shade at IPS in post 30 but then immediately balked at voting him when Elyse asked him too. I also think noting IPS as "displaying a newbie characteristic" in a way doesn't mesh with the "interesting" note. What's interesting?

The exchange just comes off as awkward to me.

I find it interesting because of the way he brought it up. The whole "I'm not saying there's scum on the wagon" thing is backtracky. However, even if a newbie characteristic, I still think his worry at an early L-2 is notable.

30 was not "throwing shade," it was a note for me to think on. I didn't vote for him because there wasn't a reason to.

[Aristophanes]

I find it interesting that you are more worried about it than I am, IPS.

This doesn't seem like a town post from Ari. This seems like he is trying to start putting pressure on someone because he has pressure. He acted very relaxed to pressure on him but that's not alignment indicative for him.

If this were the case, I'd have voted him. How am I starting pressure there if I am not putting it there myself?

[Aristophanes]

Spoiler: Long Post

I'm going to switch to
UNVOTE: GulityLion
VOTE: Elyse
as I feel that her posting has been fake.

Elyse ISO:

LET'S GO

VOTE: Elyse

Your Avatar irritates me.

??? I hadn't posted at that point.

VOTE: Iprobablysuck

OMGUS + stupid username

Also I can't be the only one who thought the theme was like, Queens, as in rulers and not the band

Her first post, RVS on Ips. Nothing wrong by itself, but:

Vote him

This was in the context of several people expressing suspicion of Ips, but none voting, asking them to vote. Considering that her vote on Ips wasn't serious, she wasn't really scumreading Ips, so encouraging the Ips wagon seems fake.

Because I think pressure will be useful in reading him

This reasoning for the wagon encouragement feels made up.

[/quote]I don't think the reasoning seems made up at all. I can see that she wanted pressure there as IPS would be most likely to react in a readable fashion. Thus her encouragement of a wagon there.

I really didn't like Elyse posts cause they seemed lazy excuses for the posts, but given this reaction by Bullet. I am now thinking its more town, which is by associations, which I hate.

Meh, not enough right now for reading Elyse probably.
Gun to head probably lazyish town.

Bullet thoughts on duppin?

So, your read went from "don't like them" to "lazyish town" because someone else made a case against them?
Please elaborate on this reasoning, because it makes zero sense to me.

Okay, first off, I wasn't ''worried'' about it. I'm not retarded and I know none of you would actually be dumb enough to hammer on page 2.

Secondly I HAVE seen three votes on somebody before in RVS. I just never seen the point, make up your own joke, don't piggyback off of someone else's :/

And that little comment was to try and kickstart discussion. The game wasn't really going anywhere by that point so I decided to give us a little push.

UNVOTE: Elyse

cause RVS is over I think.

I don't like how Aristophanes reacted to my comment, first he tried to throw shade on me and when Elyse came in saying to vote me he got all defensive.

First off, I could quote games where a hammer has been reached within the first 5 pages, possibly by page 2 but I can't remember specifically. The players who would typically do so aren't here though, so I wasn't worried. Was your concern just that people weren't being creative enough with their RVS votes?

Secondly, what is your take on my explanation of the posts I'd made there? Do you still dislike them?

[Aristophanes]

^^^
I screwed the coding there

Also, 59 is TownFire.

I have very mixed feelings on IPS based on 64 and [posr]67[/post]. I'm not sure if his wordings and demeanor are newbie or scummy.

The interactions between Fire and BNL at the top of this page are giving me weird SvS vibes.

I really didn't like Elyse posts cause they seemed lazy excuses for the posts, but given this reaction by Bullet. I am now thinking its more town, which is by associations, which I hate.

Meh, not enough right now for reading Elyse probably.
Gun to head probably lazyish town.

Bullet thoughts on duppin?

This post in particular is just... ehghrghdfaslsdfjklf...

VOTE: Fire Assassin

I didn't like the post either, thus my questioning of it. But the rest are towny and I don't think this one out does them. What about it is so damning other than feeling forced?

[Aristophanes]

Oh, and
UNVOTE:

[BNL]

It's mainly because he's new, and this makes me have a tendency to mark what he does as NAI. I'm planning to hold off reading him until after a while (~7 days into D1).

I don't think this is necessarily a scummy thing, but I also don't see how it's useful. Can you just give me some thoughts about his original Elyse push or his switch to Fire Assassin?

What are you referring to that isn't useful?

I found 67 unnatural due to the vote attached. He was already scumreading Elyse, so why only vote her then? Can't tell if the "was going to do that earlier" part is genuine. Though I do know that newbies do this in general (check Asphodel's h_a case in recently completed Mini 1791), so doubting its scumminess.

I didn't agree with 149 that Fire's 147 was "giving up". Though it just seemed like he didn't understand that it was a joke.

[Postie]

Not feeling my BNL vote any more.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

[duppin]

Aristo thoughts on Postie and BNL?

[Fire Assassin]

If my townread holds up I'll explain it at a later date. If say what he's doing right now that's making me townread him then that's an invitation for scum!Fire to keep faking said behaviour.

This sounds like something Radiant would say.
But given you stating your opinion on your read on TTH and your explanation of why it changed it seemed townie. I can actually see why you kind of thought me and BNL are scumbuddies, me and BNL have an odd relationship right now.

What you thinking on Elyse right now?

[TellTaleHeart]

Mod

: I will have limited access starting yesterday and going to July 5th. I will try to keep up with the thread but, for the most part, I will be otherwise occupied with holiday activities.

[BNL]

The reason I have Postie as town is as follows:

Could you elaborate?

It just feels forced somehow idk I'm finding it hard to explain.

This is town.

Postie, can you explain your townread on TTH?

It's a meta read that I'm probably 307% unqualified to make.

I like her response to my question (for not just the quoted post but also the stretch of her posts after). It's in line with my reasoning for my townread on TTH (which I have been hiding for this): She has a weak scumgame, and AtEs as scum, which I'm not seeing here. What further cements this as genuine is the timing of her townread on TTH:

Oh good TTH is town.

Which is immediately after the game which the meta was taken from had ended.

And I've decided that these townpoints override my earlier scumpoints on her.

[BNL]

The reason I went back to Elyse is that she's now my strongest scumread, after I had realised Postie is town. My scumread on her had weakened from early game as I wasn't sure of her recent posts (I could see them from both alignments), but after I had Postie as town Elyse became my only scumread, so I voted there.

[BNL]

and hasn't even addressed the accusations against him regarding his awful sheeping of FA's "case".

This is wrong by the way.

I probably didn't explain 102 properly. I was townreading Fire for his case on Elyse, but I didn't agree with the case. I was scumreading Elyse for other reasons.

[Iprobablysuck]

Hey guys, I have to drop out. I won't go into private details but I can't focus on this game right now. I'm very sorry.

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