Missed this.In post 195, BNL wrote:This is wrong by the way.In post 181, Elyse wrote: and hasn't even addressed the accusations against him regarding his awful sheeping of FA's "case".In post 148, BNL wrote:I probably didn't explain 102 properly. I was townreading Fire for his case on Elyse, but I didn't agree with the case. I was scumreading Elyse for other reasons.
Well if you say flatly that you don't plan on reading someone for half of D1, I don't see how that helps you solve the game or help me read you.In post 188, BNL wrote:What are you referring to that isn't useful?In post 162, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't think this is necessarily a scummy thing, but I also don't see how it's useful. Can you just give me some thoughts about his original Elyse push or his switch to Fire Assassin?In post 157, BNL wrote:It's mainly because he's new, and this makes me have a tendency to mark what he does as NAI. I'm planning to hold off reading him until after a while (~7 days into D1).
I think she's town but it's more of a gut thing at the moment. I just get weird protesty vibes from her posts that feel town somehow.In post 191, Fire Assassin wrote:What you thinking on Elyse right now?
Don't have one. I agree his opening was a bit off, but not off enough for me to consider him a scumread.In post 202, GuiltyLion wrote:Postie what's your read on Aristo?
Postie: I have a slight scum lean there. Her posting is very simplistic and I don't feel like she's putting the effort I expect into sorting people. All the one liners feel easily faked and have little actual backing stated.In post 190, duppin wrote:Aristo thoughts on Postie and BNL?
Who was this directed to? The only person who posted between this and your previous post is duppin, but I didn't see him mention any scumread on you in those two posts.In post 146, Elyse wrote:Wow nice catch. Fire did the same thing as me but only I'm scum for it.
In post 114, Elyse wrote:It's literally "Elyse is aware of what's going on in this game and is looking at it from a perspective of 'what scum would do'". No shit. That's how I scumhunt.In post 112, Iprobablysuck wrote:
More deep, epic insight from the goddess of Mafia.
Other than the fact it's against you, why is the case shit?
@TTH
Do you think Postie is buddying me?
In post 128, Elyse wrote:No you didn't.
You're saying that I'm scum for looking at the game from a scum perspective...this is how you scumhunt. You are doing it too by saying that scum would look through the game from a scum perspective. Your case is one of the worst I've ever seen on this site and that's saying something.
I don't know if you're really misguided or scum though. Bullet sheeping you is awful as well and I have taken note of that.
In post 131, Elyse wrote:I've pointed out the flaws in the case. You're scumreading me for thinking from a scum perspective to scumhunt. That is terrible. There's no way around it. I don't understand how you actually think that is it a legitimate case.
If it weren't for Bullet's sheep I would be scumreading you, but I think he could be trying to take advantage of you and pass the blame should I ever flip.
There were already two votes on me so there's motivation right there to fabricate a case on someone with an already established wagon.
In post 143, Elyse wrote:LolIn post 140, GuiltyLion wrote:In post 139, Fire Assassin wrote:Unlesss you can do good preflip associations, they are usually not good in my experience.
@FA
Now you're just being ridiculous. That's like saying "why don't scum claim scum because no one would expect them to do that!" There comes a point where certain patterns can be attributed to scum and town alike. I don't see two scum in a nine player game sheeping one another this early on with a terrible case to boot.
So these were the posts that I said I was unsure about. The reasons I didn't like them is because of the emotion present in these posts, but I thought these could be town emotion or scum emotion, hence why I was unsure. But I'm currently leaning scum emotion.In post 146, Elyse wrote:Wow nice catch. Fire did the same thing as me but only I'm scum for it.
I only see frustration in the posts you quoted, which is NAI as either alignment can easily get frustrated. What makes you think this is "Scum emotion"? Does it feel faked to you? Is it scum CftWR?In post 209, BNL wrote:So these were the posts that I said I was unsure about. The reasons I didn't like them is because of the emotion present in these posts, but I thought these could be town emotion or scum emotion, hence why I was unsure. But I'm currently leaning scum emotion.
duppin - I was saying that Fire called me scum for something he did too.In post 208, BNL wrote:Who was this directed to? The only person who posted between this and your previous post is duppin, but I didn't see him mention any scumread on you in those two posts.In post 146, Elyse wrote:Wow nice catch. Fire did the same thing as me but only I'm scum for it.
This is just awful.In post 211, BNL wrote:Gut, and the last time I saw someone use emotion defensively, they were scum.
Can you explain:In post 206, Aristophanes wrote: BNL: Same read, very different reasin. He's trying too hard. The case on Elyse after 2 pages is a bit much, and isn't critically thinking about her motives. His Ranger-Reads out of nowhere make no sense. His townread on Fire for his Elyse case, then backtracking on the reasoning when questioned, are bad. Plus his flip flopping seems like he's trying to find a good spot on a wagon.
Tell me more...In post 206, Aristophanes wrote:Postie: I have a slight scum lean there. Her posting is very simplistic and I don't feel like she's putting the effort I expect into sorting people. All the one liners feel easily faked and have little actual backing stated.
So how are you supposed to tell the difference if you don't know his scum game?In post 217, GuiltyLion wrote:says weird things that make him commonly scumread
tbf I have never seen his scumgame, but I have erroneously scumread him in 2/2 games I was with him as town, and used him as a lynch in another game where I was scum and he was a 3p lyncher
2) He's aid her reasoning looked fake when I think it was actually very reasonable. IPS obviously would have been reactive to a wagon on him, and I don't like how he dismisses it as nothing.In post 214, GuiltyLion wrote:2) what makes you think Bullet isn't thinking critically about motives and why
3) what flip flopping and why is flip flopping intrinsically scum? Your last sentence feels v disingenuous to me
In post 51, BNL wrote:I'm going to switch to
UNVOTE: GulityLion
VOTE: Elyse
as I feel that her posting has been fake.
In post 152, BNL wrote:Unsure of Elyse's recent posting, but my other scumread has grown, enough to warrant a change of vote.
UNVOTE: Elyse
VOTE: Postie
These are his flip flops. He wears them to the beach.
I don't want to quote wall it, but the majority of your posts are just "I like this." "I don't like this." "So and so is town." "This is scum."In post 218, Postie wrote:Tell me more...In post 206, Aristophanes wrote:Postie: I have a slight scum lean there. Her posting is very simplistic and I don't feel like she's putting the effort I expect into sorting people. All the one liners feel easily faked and have little actual backing stated.
Okay, but like, why is that scummy?In post 222, Aristophanes wrote:I don't want to quote wall it, but the majority of your posts are just "I like this." "I don't like this." "So and so is town." "This is scum."
The deepest read we have from you is your TTH townread, which is based on admittedly weak meta.
