Newbie 1717: Newbies Through the Looking Glass (Game Over)


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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:40 am

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RC, what gave me away as scum? I knew your reads were likely not always exactly what you said they were lol, but just curious.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:25 am

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I'm so sorry ;-;
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:26 am

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This is my fault. I can't believe I did what I did at the end of Day 2 and on Day 3....
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:43 am

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IV you should have killed me Night 1. It would have been all better then.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:19 pm

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Godammit IV! :mad:
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:23 pm

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I watched this game and I had this sick gut IV scumread all game so that's cool
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:26 pm

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Also lol that the scummy as hell Pants slot did end up being scum
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:30 pm

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I've already erased this game from my mind.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:43 pm

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I think this is the second game ever that I've won as scum staying in the whole time from start to finish lel, and both times it definitely wasn't by my merit that we won–my scumgame is generally pretty awful. I'd love some feedback on my scumgame, but feel free to tell me to fuck off or something idk lol.

@Cakez and RC again when you get to it, I'm curious what was scummy about my play?
@Anyone who townread me: What made me feel town?
@Anyone: I tried to distance Pants/snoe/Blank, did it work (if so, what made it work), or was it always a real possibility?
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:18 pm

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In post 1182, Accountant wrote:I've already erased this game from my mind.
What game? I don't know what you're talking about.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:50 pm

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There was nothing really explicitly scummy about you IV, I just had a weird constant gut scumread that ended up being right
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:54 pm

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Hey I was actually semi-correct about RC fakeclaiming though. Huh.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:02 pm

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After reading the dead chat it seems like Titus caught that I was trying to slip as Cop. Seems like I did at least one thing right this game :D
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:58 pm

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Honestly IV you felt town because you didn't do anything scummy unlike some other players
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:03 pm

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What could I have done to improve my scum game? I felt like I was in a rough spot when I replaced in and I didn't do much to improve it.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:08 pm

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I think that you could have tried obvtowning it up, being really tryhard with re-reads and questioning and ISOs and everything. One of the main complaints against Pants was that he was useless, so if you did that it would be easier to pass it off as part of Pants' playstyle.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:24 pm

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Damn guys.. Two days in a row.. I missed a full day because it wasn't posted near sunrise date and went to sleep.. By the time I realized it was already over.

I have no idea what the hell RC was doing day 1. Funnily enough clearing Blank made me scumread IV again immediately. Hark was super scummy, but IV and Postie were posting back and forth and I was suspecting them. Upon seeing Tracker I probably would have still had "blank=town" in my mind because I began to reread day 2 during night and put a townie voice on everything he said. While I would have went for IV, town would probably still be screwed, no, with Postie convinced I was scum I would have likely been the lynch if I pushed for IV.

I feel somewhat vindicated that I tried to wagon both scum day 1, but beyond that the game was a mess and my reads started going wrong, fast in day 2 by suspecting wrong Blank partners, clearing IV for some damn reason (baa) to scumreading Postie... All I know is that after the Simoyd self vote, which I had open in my phone unknowing that day had ended, he killed all the scumminess I detected from him, because I liked his gambit a lot. It's just a shame it was spoiled. I would have definitely pushed a different lynch, and unless IV made a bad post, unfortunately it probably would have been Postie.

Sorry Postie.
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:33 pm

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Simoyd's self-vote really looked towny to me too. That's why I thought that he is scum who is desperate.
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:36 pm

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In post 1172, RadiantCowbells wrote:My plan was for them to assume that Lycan was the actual cop, nightkill them, then come out with my guilty and explanation the next day.

I am sure we would have won if I hadn't been nightkilled :(
Well I did leave the emote for a reason. No risk beyond drawing an investigation on myself, high reward. Another plan that amounted to nothing.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:00 pm

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You made a lot of good posts Hark. Try to refine your silly ones. When I make a silly post it's obvious, with yours I wasn't sure if you actually believed what you had written.

Thanks to the moderator for the game & for the scum team not afraid to hard bus each other, generally the lack of f-s everyone had this game was chaotic, but in it's own way fun. Hope to see you all in more games in the future.
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:52 pm

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Yep. Thank you all for playing and I hope everyone had fun, whether you won or lost :)
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:46 pm

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Thank you all for the game. Congrats to IV and Blank! :D
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:36 pm

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Lycan was an extremely strong townread for most of the game.
I was FoSing IV a lot earlier than I let on.

Everything else was pretty accurate reads wise.
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:37 pm

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Specifically overnight it was because

without the Simoyd associative and Postie's super towny spreadsheet result she wasn't scum.
Lycan had been a huge townread for the majority of the game.

and it wasn't Hark/Blankface

so I thought it was you/Blank or you/Hark overnight.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:47 pm

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No idea why people suspected Lyc
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