New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Nahdia]

i feel like if titus was town they would done their research and would be aware of that tbh

[Titus]

dont goons show up as VT

Neopolitans can only tell if they are Vanilla or a PR, Titus. At least that's what the wiki said when I read it after you claimed.

Checked with mod pregame.

[Titus]

Cy is conftown.

[Nahdia]

oh yeah i guess that kinda is what it says in the normal guidelines.

ok.

eh i dont really know what's going on in this game. unlimited vig seems unlikely as town seeing as we've had a 2-shot vig flip.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So Shaz most likely is a Serial Killer with that claim. I'll did some reading overnight of the non-Lowell claimed targets of NK and Shaz was one of the names that showed up. Will explore more after I get back from V/LA.

Also will want to re-read Shaz's reaction to Lowell's claim.

Liger did not post in the Neighborhood overnight. I specifically asked him if he had any thoughts right after the thread opened and then about 14 hours before Night was set to end I specifically told him I was going after him today to see if he has any reaction in thread. Nada.

[Egg]

Damn, why am I still alive =(

I kinda wanna lynch Magna but my reads have been shit.

[Untrod Tripod]

Sup bitches

[zakk]

ok soooo there may not be an SK after all?

sup UT! thanks <3

[zakk]

no wait then who killed thebrawlguy on N1

[zakk]

well there are three kills, which either means

2 scum teams 1 vig
2 scum teams 1 sk
1 scum team 1 sk 1 vig

i think it's unlikely anyone who was scum or SK would want to take out KTS, especially an SK. they would want him alive to draw aggro

so eliminating the 2 scum teams 1 sk option, we have:

2 scum teams 1 vig
1 scum team 1 sk 1 vig

however, since i think that TBG was seen as someone who was a wagon that existed pretty much all day, but wasn't able to be pushed through, it's possible that either an SK, "rival" scum, or a vig would want to off him, thinking he was scum, and KTS seems like a vig shot for daaammmnnnn sure

so NK analysis leaves us with:

vigilante KTS
scum/sk TBG
scum/sk ETL

i'm happy with this.

so now we need to look for multi-scum dynamics.

[Untrod Tripod]

okay there's 154 goddamn pages

can someone broad stroke this game for me?

[zakk]

bring out the speculation

N1

Killthestory - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie
EspeciallyTheLies - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie
TehBrawlGuy - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie

KTS was killed by Lowell, and Shaziro claimed to kill him too
ETL seems like a shoo-in for a scum kill being active loud and uncompromising in opinions
TBG was an odd kill that, had KTS not been one of the kills, i would have assumed was a vig kill because of his having been wagoned D1

so with Shaziro not claiming a TBG kill, that's weird.

N2
copper223 - Killed Night 2 - Town Neighbor
Expedience alban - Killed Night 2 - Vanilla Townie
Aneninen - Killed Night 2 - Mafia Encryptor

Aneninen was killed by lowell
Shaziro claimed the copper kill as vig.
That leaves Expedience as being a scum AND sk kill?

N3
Lowell - Killed Night 3 - Town 2-shot Vigilante
Ircher - Killed Night 3 - Vanilla Townie

Lowell being a vig which had connected both previous nights, and was out of shots, it makes sense that there's one less kill


ETL and TBG were not both killed by one person or faction, so unless town had TWO vigs that could shoot BOTH N1 and N2, AND there's Anen-scum, AND thre's an SK

then there's a missing kill ALL THREE nights


and if somebody blocked somebody one of the nights in question, you should NOT claim yet. just in case shenanigans somehow DOES mean we should have had 4 kills a night, etc.

but i think this points to Shaziro being SK or scum at least.

checking Anen-shaziro interactions brb

[zakk]

okay there's 154 goddamn pages

can someone broad stroke this game for me?

haha

i've been meaning to put all this together anyway but

there's been 3 kills the first 2 nights and 2 kills the 3rd night
all lynches have been on town so far
one of the nightkills was on scum (which has been claimed by a dead/flipped 2-shot vig (lowell)

there's supposedly an SK but the shaziro claim throws a bit of doubt on that given it's stupid AF for an ostensible SK to cast doubt on lowell's claim (2-shot vig) for ~reasons~

titus busted his balls a lot for the ~reasons~ iirc

what doesn't make sense to me is... well basically everything. expect more wrap ups

[Untrod Tripod]

woah woah woah

we have someone claiming for an unaccounted-for kill (while having a flipped vig who couldn't have committed it) and we HAVEN'T turbolynched that person yet? how dumb is this playerlist?

[Untrod Tripod]

also, four kills? jesus fucking christ, did I replace into another fucking multiball game? is it too late to leave?

[Shaziro]

Zakk, you forget that Shotty claimed roleblocker. And now that I've claimed vig, UT is asking for my turbolynch.

[zakk]

Dead players

Persivul

Robert2424

- Lynched Day 1 - Town

Neighbor

Killthestory - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie
EspeciallyTheLies - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie
TehBrawlGuy - Killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie
Kop

SethYazura

- Lynched Day 2 - Town 2-shot Commuter
copper223 - Killed Night 2 - Town

Neighbor

Expedience

alban

- Killed Night 2 - Vanilla Townie
Aneninen - Killed Night 2 - Mafia Encryptor
Nosferatu - Lynched Day 3 - Vanilla Townie
Lowell - Killed Night 3 - Town 2-shot Vigilante (who claimed his kills on Killthestory N1, and Aneninen N2)
Ircher - Killed Night 3 - Vanilla Townie

Living players

Shaziro

heuristically_alone

- claimed

Vigilante

who shot Killthestory N1, copper223 N2, and Ircher N3
MagnaofIllusion - claimed to be in the

Neighborhood

by Liger-Zero
Untrod Tripod

drmyshottyizsik

- claimed

Even Night Roleblocker

, claimed blocking Ircher N2
projectmatt**

ConvergentConclusion

- hasn't claimed yet
zakk* - I haven't claimed yet
Liger_zero*

I Am Innocent

- claimed

Neighborhood

and named members (2 now dead)
Egg - hasn't claimed yet
cytheflyguy* - didn't claim but Titus claimed he was a VT
Nahdia*

Desmond_13

- hasn't claimed yet
Titus - claimed Odd-Night Neapolitan (VT/non-VT results, claimed cytheflyguy is a VT)

pedit

[zakk]

nugget

VOTE: cytheflyguy

Flash counter, I don't trust the nos wagon.

VOTE: cytheflyguy

Flash counter, I don't trust the nos wagon.

This is honestly probably a good place to vote if you won't vote Ircher, but for real, Ircher is scum. You have no clue how frustrating it is to not be able to explain why yet.

both of Titus'/Shaziro's claimed night actions make sense based on what they were saying yesterday

[zakk]

shaziro don't get offline i have questions

[cytheflyguy]

Cytheflyguy is confirmed town.

HA

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

*ahem*

[zakk]

jumping ship fuck this

And this was a scummy reaction to that claim. (I'll elaborate it if needed.)

That wasn't a reaction to a claim, shotty posted that all over the site anywhere he was fairly active. He was jumping ship from the whole site. Check his Recent Posts.


I'm gonna do a once-over again on Seth and Kop, but I'm probably about to put a vote there.

Bugger it, I've got some tea in myself so I'm a bit more awake. I feel like I was sheeping too much, and now I know that at least one person I was fairly ok with following was scum. I think Seth's slot may well be town, because of the blow-up at Anen. It didn't seem fake, but I assumed it was mad scum yelling at town. I want to hear from Lowell about why he's playing dumb like that when I believe somebody said he's been around for quite a while and therefore should know better. I've been around for a very short time, but I still know that self-proclaimed "lolhammer"s are awful. Also, I want to see something from earlier...another quick post incoming, once I match a name to a quote.

So, Shaz-Zakk-??? team

And who else? Perhaps pmatt, he hasn't been very useful tbh.

4. would the ??? not be aneninen? you know, the flipped scum?

So let's talk about this point, and the fact that it suggests that Ircher -knows- that if Zakk and I were a team, Anen wouldn't be on it. Odds it's because Anen was on he and Titus' team, probably high. Odds them having daychat therefore explains why he was sheeping Titus' votes and Titus was defending him up until somebody mentioned it, and then she tried to hard distance in thread to break that notion? Probably high. The fact that they both got real quiet once it was mentioned? Probably means they were hoping it'd be forgotten. I am perfectly comfortable in my vote at the moment.

this is all of the times shaziro reacted to aneninen or talked about him



pedit: HAAA hahahaa. okay cy seems super town with that response

[cytheflyguy]

But anyway, yeah, I'm the useless VT

Which means I'll probs be dead tonight oh well~

[zakk]

its 11 players dead and 10 players left

there's probably at least 3-4 scum alive including SK

so to get majority we basically need every townie to agree on a lynch

@game reviewer type people:

what's the balance like on:

1. 16 town (with 2 vigs), 5 scum (sounds pretty unbalanced and nothing we've seen could explain it, so discard this)

2. 16 town (with 2 vigs), 4 scum, 1 sk (shaziro telling truth)
3. 16 town (with 1 vig), 4 scum, 1 sk (shaziro lying)
4. ???

if shaziro is telling the truth then there's an unexplained kill N1 so that would mean SK since this is a normal game so (i assume) 1 scum faction wouldn't have 2 kills on N1 even for balance reasons

soooo basically we have an unexplained kill unless Shaziro was lying about killing KTS and actually killed TBG (or much less likely, ETL)

and either way 2 vigs sounds really overbalanced PLUS there have been 10 town deaths and 1 scum death and that was hit by a claimed and flipped town vig.

[zakk]

But anyway, yeah, I'm the useless VT

Which means I'll probs be dead tonight oh well~

haha if you are actually VT then you're probably the last person they would kill no offense



there are too many variables in this game. there's like 3 possibilities of what's going on

titus could be a scum VT cop
lowell is now known to be telling the truth but now there's shaziroclaim to suss out
liger was absent from the neighborhood last night according to magna

it's time to setup speculate more and then scumhunt the shit out of aneninen

[Untrod Tripod]

Zakk, you forget that Shotty claimed roleblocker. And now that I've claimed vig, UT is asking for my turbolynch.

I'm a rolestopper, actually