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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:38 pm

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Votecount 1.10:


Elyse (2): Fire Assassin, BulletNLynchproof
Aristophanes (2): GuiltyLion, TellTaleHeart
BulletNLynchproof (2): Elyse, Aristophanes
Fire Assassin (1): Wingback
Postie (1): duppin
GuiltyLion (1): Postie
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Wingback (0):
duppin (0):

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With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:40 pm

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In post 223, Postie wrote:
In post 222, Aristophanes wrote:I don't want to quote wall it, but the majority of your posts are just "I like this." "I don't like this." "So and so is town." "This is scum."
The deepest read we have from you is your TTH townread, which is based on admittedly weak meta.
Okay, but like, why is that scummy?
Because it let's you float through easily. Because it doesn't help anyone sort you, nor show how you are sorting anyone.
Like, I get witholding your reasoning on Fire, but what about your townread on Elyse? Your scumread on BNL? Your change from that to GL? None of these have reasoning and I know you are far more capable than this. Your lack of elaboration is weird, and I think possibly scumweird.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:55 pm

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In post 226, Aristophanes wrote:but what about your townread on Elyse?
In post 205, Postie wrote:I think she's town but it's more of a gut thing at the moment. I just get weird protesty vibes from her posts that feel town somehow.
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In post 226, Aristophanes wrote:Your scumread on BNL?
was bad. BNL is bad a lot but that post is like scum-bad.
Just finished a marathon game where he was scum and his reasoning was similarly bad so I'm no longer willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

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In post 226, Aristophanes wrote:Your change from that to GL?
His felt like contrived garbage.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:10 pm

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I Don't know how I missed that re: Elyse. My bad.

171 does read as pretty faked reasoning, I agree. From his other posts though, I'm getting alright vibes and like the questioning and prodding he's doing to keep conversation going. Do these effect your read at all?

I read his ISO from that game, and though I agree those posts are bad, he was also overwhelmed there, making it hard to get a read of his overall play. From this game though, I'd say we have scum.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:24 pm

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In post 228, Aristophanes wrote:171 does read as pretty faked reasoning, I agree. From his other posts though, I'm getting alright vibes and like the questioning and prodding he's doing to keep conversation going. Do these effect your read at all?
No. His other posts are null to me. I'm not sure how familiar you are with his scumgame but he's more than capable of faking this kind of thing.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:28 pm

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In post 229, Postie wrote:
In post 228, Aristophanes wrote:171 does read as pretty faked reasoning, I agree. From his other posts though, I'm getting alright vibes and like the questioning and prodding he's doing to keep conversation going. Do these effect your read at all?
No. His other posts are null to me. I'm not sure how familiar you are with his scumgame but he's more than capable of faking this kind of thing.
I don't believe I have met ScumGL, so I don't have any basis here. I'll keep it in mind though!
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:32 pm

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You met scumGL in college mafia, remember? I still can't believe I bullshitted out a win in LYLO in that game :D
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:37 pm

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In post 231, GuiltyLion wrote:You met scumGL in college mafia, remember? I still can't believe I bullshitted out a win in LYLO in that game :D
Oh yeah! What a game! Haha That was quite the victory for you!
I should actually reread that. It was great fun...then I got hammered.

This isn't a "tonight project" though.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:20 pm

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In post 221, Aristophanes wrote: 3)
In post 51, BNL wrote:I'm going to switch to
UNVOTE: GulityLion
VOTE: Elyse
as I feel that her posting has been fake.
In post 152, BNL wrote:Unsure of Elyse's recent posting, but my other scumread has grown, enough to warrant a change of vote.
UNVOTE: Elyse
VOTE: Postie
In post 179, BNL wrote:Never mind, Postie is town. Back to Elyse~

UNVOTE: Postie
VOTE: Elyse
These are his flip flops. He wears them to the beach.
His vote on Postie and subsequent unvote occurred quite close together. I see no posts from Elyse that should have had him doubting his scumread if it were genuine, and his reasoning for the Postie vote in is weak in itself.
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, what made you reconsider your Elyse vote in both occasions? She didn't post between the unvote, where you were unsure of her, and the revote, where she was a scumread again. What about Postie's posts in that timeframe convinced you she's town?
I explained my Postie townread in .
Tell me why you said is doubting my Elyse read? I just said that wasn't sure of her posting.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:23 pm

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In post 228, Aristophanes wrote:I read his ISO from that game, and though I agree those posts are bad, he was also overwhelmed there, making it hard to get a read of his overall play. From this game though, I'd say we have scum.
What?
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:25 pm

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Town: Postie, Fire Assassin, TTH
Null: Duppin, GL, Wingback (where is he?)
Scum: Elyse, Aristophanes
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:48 pm

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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:55 pm

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VOTE: Aristophanes

This doesn't feel like your town play.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:12 am

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In post 237, duppin wrote:VOTE: Aristophanes

This doesn't feel like your town play.
How do you figure?
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:23 am

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In post 233, BNL wrote:I explained my Postie townread in 193.
Tell me why you said 152 is doubting my Elyse read? I just said that wasn't sure of her posting.
I don't know how I missed that post. The subsequent ones explain away most of my I'll feelings too. And the tone of them is towny. I'm sorry I missed them!
UNVOTE:

One thing I disagree with though is Postie having a weak scumgame. The first game I played with her (Word Sneak 2) I was regained with a tale of her greatness and manipulative play as scum. I believe she was Nommed for a Scummy because of it. What makes you day her scum play is weak!?
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In post 228, Aristophanes wrote:I read his ISO from that game, and though I agree those posts are bad, he was also overwhelmed there, making it hard to get a read of his overall play. From this game though, I'd say we have scum.
What?
In reading the game Postie linked, it is clear that you were not making great posts that game because you were overwhelmed with the size and speed of the posts. You replaced out because of it. So I don't think it's a good meta example for your play.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:28 am

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Good with an Aris or Bullet lynch
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:35 am

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In post 240, Elyse wrote:Good with an Aris or Bullet lynch
I'm off to work (got called in early) but I'll respond after. What have I done that is scummy?
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:00 am

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239 pings me so hard. The overjustified, apologetic unvote of Bullet, the slight shade at Postie, the ridiculous defense of Bullet at the end when you were voting him like two posts earlier.

That was such an awkward and complete backoff of Bullet for "towny toned posts that you missed". Like are you even reading the game? You've "missed" a crazy amount of posts.

I wouldn't be surprised with a Bullet/Aris scumteam.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:40 am

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In post 204, The Show Must Go On wrote:Wingback replaces Iprobablysuck! Please welcome them.
Hi. Been keeping an eye on the thread on my phone. I'll have more time after the fourth of july weekend so I should be able to catch up by tomorrow.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:14 am

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In post 237, duppin wrote:VOTE: Aristophanes

This doesn't feel like your town play.
Does it feel like his scumplay? Because I agree but I see little reason to suppose this is scum!Aristo as opposed to just different!Aristo.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:14 pm

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In post 238, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 237, duppin wrote:VOTE: Aristophanes

This doesn't feel like your town play.
How do you figure?
Honestly it's a mostly a character read. I'm not getting any townvibes from you, which I usually do when your town. I will admit it is possible some of it has to do with you going V/LA so yeah.

In any case, why isn't your vote on Postie?
In post 244, Postie wrote:
In post 237, duppin wrote:VOTE: Aristophanes

This doesn't feel like your town play.
Does it feel like his scumplay? Because I agree but I see little reason to suppose this is scum!Aristo as opposed to just different!Aristo.
Perhaps, not sure. However this does not feel like his town game so I see no reason not to apply pressure.
I'm honestly not sure what to think of this post. You agree that this does not seem like his townplay, so where exactly are you going with this?
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:39 pm

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In post 245, duppin wrote:I'm honestly not sure what to think of this post. You agree that this does not seem like his townplay, so where exactly are you going with this?
In post 244, Postie wrote:I agree but I see little reason to suppose this is scum!Aristo as opposed to just different!Aristo.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:34 pm

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In post 243, Wingback wrote:
In post 204, The Show Must Go On wrote:Wingback replaces Iprobablysuck! Please welcome them.
Hi. Been keeping an eye on the thread on my phone. I'll have more time after the fourth of july weekend so I should be able to catch up by tomorrow.
Hello and welcome!
Looking forward to it! :)
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:38 pm

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In post 242, Elyse wrote:239 pings me so hard. The overjustified, apologetic unvote of Bullet, the slight shade at Postie, the ridiculous defense of Bullet at the end when you were voting him like two posts earlier.

That was such an awkward and complete backoff of Bullet for "towny toned posts that you missed". Like are you even reading the game? You've "missed" a crazy amount of posts.

I wouldn't be surprised with a Bullet/Aris scumteam.
I missed some posts and they changed my read. I obviously need to reread some stuff because my reading comprehension sucks apparently.

I was not throwing shade at Postie, I'm refuting something I believe to be incorrect. Responding to "her scumgame is weak" with "no, she literally got Nommed for a Scummy for it" is not throwing shade.

For us to be a scumteam, I'd have to be scum. And I'm not scum. So...
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 245, duppin wrote:Honestly it's a mostly a character read. I'm not getting any townvibes from you, which I usually do when your town. I will admit it is possible some of it has to do with you going V/LA so yeah.

In any case, why isn't your vote on Postie?
I didn't vote Postie because I obviously need a better footing here, as I'm missing too many things (as Elyse noted). I need to reevaluate things before proceeding.
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