New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Zachstralkita]

I want to wagon Wake or Varsoon, depending on Wake's answer.

Do your scumreads ever exist outside of people that vote you?

[Titus]

We should be looking more at

early

player interactions with Nosferatu, not Vedith.

Read: I am going to cherrypick that Titus was wrong at first and then changed her mind.

VOTE: Wake

[Titus]

I want to wagon Wake or Varsoon, depending on Wake's answer.

Do your scumreads ever exist outside of people that vote you?

Yes.

I remove liars and cherrypickers first.
The lurkers and avoiders of content or drama stirrers.

Wake is the first. Varsoon is the second.

[Zachstralkita]

I want to wagon Wake or Varsoon, depending on Wake's answer.

Do your scumreads ever exist outside of people that vote you?

Yes.

I remove

liars

and

drama stirrers.

Lack of energy has prevented me from collapsing a lung laughing at this.

Do you..... not remember fakeclaiming mason yesterday?

By the way, a Wake wagon is not happening under any circumstance and I'm against a Varsoon wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

1237 - Zach: '

Why exactly are you opposed to lynching Nosferatu?

'
1238 - Titus:

1. There's nothing scummy in his ISO.
2. The subout was really townie.
3. Wake wants to lynch him and is pushing it.
4. Wake is willing to lynch Sick of it and not pushing it.
5. Every single other push by Wake (myself, Dunn, boem) lately has been obvious town, so anything he wants I am opposed to.
6. Any reason given to lynch Nos fits others better.

This is a really bad look for Titus

1 is bullshit

2. ya get the fuck out of here (I actually think this doesn't lend credibility to Titus being scum, it might just be an example of her bad reads - she scumread me, for fuck's sake)

3. ....

4. ........................

5 that's uh.. that's... yeah...

6. bullshit


However I'm still going to vote Performer.

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

Performer also soft-defended Vedith.

[Titus]

I should have included a caveat there that forced gambits are not in that category.

Well we are going to have problems on wagon selection because I was the counter to Vedith so my wagon is the natural place to look for scum.

[Zachstralkita]

I should have included a caveat there that forced gambits are not in that category.

Well we are going to have problems on wagon selection because I was the counter to Vedith so my wagon is the natural place to look for scum.

It would have been a fucking US Government level caveat considering no one held a gun to your head and made you do that gambit on account of Dunn being so obvtown.

If he died last night it would have been all for nothing.

I also disagree, scum probably bussed Vedith to look better

[Wake1]

Titus in my opinion should be the lynch for today.

Before Vedith started messing up on that slot there was Nosferatu, and what we should do is pay attention to all of the player interactions involving Nosferatu.

Throughout Nosferatu's existence Zach has been fine with voting/lynching Nosferatu.

Take note in my 2753 that Lapsa was right about Nosferatu in 419, 739, and 1036.

Transcend was favorable to Nosferatu in 179 and 965.

Titus refused to vote for Nosferatu in 1138 because I voted for Nosferatu.

I'm townreading Zach and Scumreading Titus right now.

[Titus]

Zach, the game rules made me. It's a pretty small one.

If Dunn died, the gambit would be fine. I would have been proven right and the fact I couldn't defend him from lynch makes my actions more understandable.

Scum bussed Vedith when they could lol policy lynch me? No. My wagon was chock full of scum.

[Titus]

Titus in my opinion should be the lynch for today.

Before Vedith started messing up on that slot there was Nosferatu, and what we should do is pay attention to all of the player interactions involving Nosferatu.

Throughout Nosferatu's existence Zach has been fine with voting/lynching Nosferatu.

Take note in my 2753 that Lapsa was right about Nosferatu in 419, 739, and 1036.

Transcend was favorable to Nosferatu in 179 and 965.

Titus refused to vote for Nosferatu in 1138 because I voted for Nosferatu.

I'm townreading Zach and Scumreading Titus right now.

^^ needs to die to progress the game. Tunnelling obvious town again. Keeping game state stagnant again. Ignores reality that Vedith was my counter.

Ignores my vote giving momentum for Vedith lynch.

He's going to be a chump and just be scummy noise all game.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm not against wagoning Wake because Titus wants it. I'm against wagoning Wake cause he is super fucking town.

If you had to kill a townie, you're better off killing me. In fact, you're better off killing shannon who

claimed VT

to help us out!

Yes, I'm hard defending the shit out of him right now. I do not care.

Zach, the game rules made me. It's a pretty small one.

If Dunn died, the gambit would be fine. I would have been proven right and the fact I couldn't defend him from lynch makes my actions more understandable.

Scum bussed Vedith when they could lol policy lynch me? No. My wagon was chock full of scum.

Whatever, I'm not arguing that shit now.


WHY would they policy lynch you? What exactly have you DONE? If you had your way Vedith would be kicking his feet up sipping a fucking pina colada right now and one of Varsoon, Sickofit (beeboy) [Town], Wake, or Me would be dead. All townies.

Scum bussed Vedith for towncred. There could have been scum on BOTH of your wagons.

[beeboy]

Bad Titus.
Whakay is town aligned from the 6 pages of this game I read.

[Titus]

Beeboy, Not sure what you're reading but continuing a wagon scum want and cherry picking to do it is not townie...at all.

Zach, why wouldn't scum policy lynch me? Zero content, zero risk. Scum is the main counter in Vedith. Your Varsoon and Wake reads such. Beeboy is likely town. Also look at podog when I make that statement. Lapsa (town) said he'd tunnel me to no end. Easy content less pushes is where scum are.

[Wake1]

Nosferatu

tried to cast doubt on implosion in 178, and implosion said in 295 that

Nos

is worrisome. Although in 403 implosion said

Nos

is probably town if he had to hazard a guess.

Titus thought

Nosferatu

was a Town replace-out (1183). Podoboq was OK with voting

Nosferatu

in 1224.

The most damning thing about Titus was her 1238.

In 1222 Dunnstral chose to go after Sick, and in 1445 Dunnstral refused to vote

Nos

and instead said to switch to Sick. And in 1460 Dunnstral again says

Nosferatu

was Town. I don't like Dunnstral's 1541 either.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach, why wouldn't scum policy lynch me? Zero content, zero risk. Scum is the main counter in Vedith. Your Varsoon and Wake reads such. Beeboy is likely town. Also look at podog when I make that statement. Lapsa (town) said he'd tunnel me to no end. Easy content less pushes is where scum are.

If scum want to look better able to defend themselves they wouldn't go for an easy lynch.

But again, they could have been split up on both of the wagons. It does not have to be black or white.


Your tunnel on Wake is the worst possible thing that could happen this game. Varsoon isn't a good choice either. I urge you to re-analyze your decisions.

[Wake1]

Bad Titus.
Whakay is town aligned from the 6 pages of this game I read.

It's

Wake

.

[Wake1]

Beeboy, Zach, Boem, please join my wagon against Titus.

Your actions will mean a lot as the game progresses.

[Zachstralkita]

Wake, do you think scum!Titus would go out of her way to fakeclaim to save DUNN on the grounds that DUNN is OBVTOWN and also connect him to her by fakeclaiming MASONS, then RETRACT THE CLAIM and openly tunnel the same people who were voting her? Where is the sense in that?


Answer me this.

I don't and that's why I'm hesitant to vote Titus. But if the wagons were Wake and Titus, I would not hesitate to vote Titus.

BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING PERFORMER.

[Wake1]

I need answers on who got in Lapsa's way against nosferatu.

[Titus]

Zach, why wouldn't scum policy lynch me? Zero content, zero risk. Scum is the main counter in Vedith. Your Varsoon and Wake reads such. Beeboy is likely town. Also look at podog when I make that statement. Lapsa (town) said he'd tunnel me to no end. Easy content less pushes is where scum are.

If scum want to look better able to defend themselves they wouldn't go for an easy lynch.

But again, they could have been split up on both of the wagons. It does not have to be black or white.


Your tunnel on Wake is the worst possible thing that could happen this game. Varsoon isn't a good choice either. I urge you to re-analyze your decisions.

Oh, I see more do what I want threats.

Why are you intent on having me lie? Your choice is suddenly townread people hellbent on being scummy or else.

From MY perspective, Varsoon has tunnelled exclusively on town, CCed solely so that I would remain lynchable AND tunneled me with no comment on anyone else. Varsoon fits the profile of how I scumhunt on who should be scum. So why are you townreading him?

[Zachstralkita]

Basically what I'm saying Wake, is for Titus to be scum Dunn has to be scum 99/100 times.

Zach, why wouldn't scum policy lynch me? Zero content, zero risk. Scum is the main counter in Vedith. Your Varsoon and Wake reads such. Beeboy is likely town. Also look at podog when I make that statement. Lapsa (town) said he'd tunnel me to no end. Easy content less pushes is where scum are.

If scum want to look better able to defend themselves they wouldn't go for an easy lynch.

But again, they could have been split up on both of the wagons. It does not have to be black or white.


Your tunnel on Wake is the worst possible thing that could happen this game. Varsoon isn't a good choice either. I urge you to re-analyze your decisions.

Oh, I see more do what I want threats.

Why are you intent on having me lie? Your choice is suddenly townread people hellbent on being scummy or else.

From MY perspective, Varsoon has tunnelled exclusively on town, CCed solely so that I would remain lynchable AND tunneled me with no comment on anyone else. Varsoon fits the profile of how I scumhunt on who should be scum. So why are you townreading him?

Do what you want but I will derail the lynch by any means necessary. Have your pride take the backseat for a little bit.

[Wake1]

Wake, do you think scum!Titus would go out of her way to fakeclaim to save DUNN on the grounds that DUNN is OBVTOWN and also connect him to her by fakeclaiming MASONS, then RETRACT THE CLAIM and openly tunnel the same people who were voting her? Where is the sense in that?


Answer me this.

I don't and that's why I'm hesitant to vote Titus. But if the wagons were Wake and Titus, I would not hesitate to vote Titus.

BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING PERFORMER.

Listen to me please.

Titus is more skilled than you know. I can never be certain what she is doing. Do not underestimate Titus.

At least vote her to pressure her. You don't have to commit to a lynch, but at least get some pressure on her so we can stir up even more invaluable actions and reactions we can analyze later.

[Titus]

P.S. Wake's recent posting is blatant psychological manipulation. By putting Titus, Nos and the color red together, he wants players to associate these things together and is trying to use underhanded tactics and ignore what goes against him.

Oh wow and now Wake is trying to get town to vote me while abandoning any pretense I can be proven scum because he cherrypicks and even Zach knows it.

[Zachstralkita]

Wake, do you think scum!Titus would go out of her way to fakeclaim to save DUNN on the grounds that DUNN is OBVTOWN and also connect him to her by fakeclaiming MASONS, then RETRACT THE CLAIM and openly tunnel the same people who were voting her? Where is the sense in that?


Answer me this.

I don't and that's why I'm hesitant to vote Titus. But if the wagons were Wake and Titus, I would not hesitate to vote Titus.

BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING PERFORMER.

Listen to me please.

Titus is more skilled than you know. I can never be certain what she is doing. Do not underestimate Titus.

At least vote her to pressure her. You don't have to commit to a lynch, but at least get some pressure on her so we can stir up even more invaluable actions and reactions we can analyze later.

Hey, my name's Paul and this shit's between y'all.

Spoiler:

I'm gonna stay on Performer. I want pressure on Performer. No one is going to go for that lynch without me. Performer scum.

[Titus]

Wake is trying to sell you that what cannot be controlled = proscum. Bad move. Scum seek control of a game state. Town seek to remove scum.

@Zach, I don't care for a Performer lynch. Just nope. I will get out of your way because you saw Nos first, but I am not lending my vote because I think you are wrong.