New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Zachstralkita]

How was Lapsa "practically clear"?

I was referring to A50

And I was talking to implosion...

I used the same verbage so I got confused

[Titus]

UNVOTE: Wake

I'm going to vote Performer or Mirhawk. I have not decided which. Both might be scum.

[Airick10]

I'm not pushing anyone right now, a50 claimed jailkeeper

UNVOTE:

Alright, I examined Lapsa's iso

1: He talked to me a lot. This is useless.
2. He suspected Titus. However, I think Titus would have killed me, instead. It looks more like somebody trying to frame Titus, than Titus being actual mafia
3. He was maybe killed if Mirhawk is mafia to do both 2 and try to get suspicion off of mirhawk

Right now, best bet:
VOTE: Mirhawk

Haha. Not pushing? People are following.

[implosion]

1) I believe if he was a scum RB it's too much of a risk to claim like that. And when he would not turn up as dead in the future it would arouse suspicion. The slot reads pretty Town to me.

2) I don't know? Have any of those pushes worked?

1) I agree. I think he's significantly more town now; but I have extraneous reason to think that he's scum (I like Airick's most recent post, I know that I'm town, and I have a fairly strong townread on podoboq) which leaves him as the last person on the AGar wagon. It actually might be possible that that wagon

was

all town and the other voters off the wagon + possibly AGar are scum. I still think it's possible that A50 is scum, however. I'm certainly not interested in lynching him in the next 2-3 days unless there's some really good reason to.

2) This is a red herring; your original point was that scum hate having people be practically clear, so the intent is what's relevant. Unless you think that I am scum who was intentionally failing at making people be read as town. Which I suppose you can think if you want.

And @dunn Lapsa wasn't "practically clear." I just had an extremely strong townread on him and was pushing him as town, and would have been happy to have made him be "practically clear" in the town's eyes because I was very confident that he was town.
If I had known there was a vig targeting him I'd have pushed that harder (irrelevant though that may be).

[Dunnstral]

Can you explain why on performer?

[Airick10]

I'd like to hear from either Performer or Mirhawk. Although it being July 4, I didn't expect this many posts today!

[Wake1]

Implosion is following Dunnstral's two votes (3019).

[Dunnstral]

Implosion is following Dunnstral's two votes (3019).

...Yeah I pointed that out

[Dunnstral]

Can somebody tell me why performer

[Airick10]

Except that's speculation and you vigged Lapsa lol

Why would you claim the kill instead of trying to draw tonight's NK? You already used your shot and you haven't really been game solving... just sheeping Titus

Where do you get this impression? I am finding Dunn to be difficult to work with myself.

My take, just a couple examples. Posts 2210 & 2211. Also the Vedith wagon. Dunn would follow as far as to hammer someone without even knowing it. Note, Zach told Dunn that he's sheeping you. He did not ask you if you enjoyed it.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not sheeping Titus.....

[Wake1]

I'm not sold on Performer.

We should do the smart thing and actually scrutinize the Nosferatu actions that happened way early on.

[Dunnstral]

Except he lurked and had minimal interactions

[Zachstralkita]

Can somebody tell me why performer

Fuck you mean can someone tell me Performer?

I'm the only one voting him, no one believes in me ;-;

But you'll see.

[Wake1]

Except he lurked and had minimal interactions

It's not just about

his

interactions, but those of other players

about

him.

Those who voted him, those who refused. We need to look at that.

This is what we do when we have flips. Any experienced player should know this.

[Airick10]

@Dunn:

That is beside the point. the point is you're voting EVERYONE, accusing EVERYONE, and making a lot of noise with little to gain. I can't even wrap my head around half of the content of this thread bc of your noise. Tone it down a little. Focus. Give me something to read through, mate!

Agree with this. I don't see it anywhere... A50 - Why did you Jail Dunn?

[Dunnstral]

You're not helping by doing whatever you're doing

Whatever, if nobody can explain it we're getting Mirhawk over performer today.

Except he lurked and had minimal interactions

It's not just about

his

interactions, but those of other players

about

him.

Those who voted him, those who refused. We need to look at that.

This is what we do when we have flips. Any experienced player should know this.

OK. So why aren't you doing it...?

But I'll take a look for the hot topics for today

[Zachstralkita]

I already explained it in that one post I showed you when you asked the other 5 times you just don't think that warrants your vote. It's not my fault.

[Dunnstral]

That was like two quotes

You're acting like you featured a case

[Zachstralkita]

That was like two quotes

You're acting like you featured a case

That was all I had to say.

How is my case weak? just because it isn't 9000 words and I'm not Titus doesn't mean my case has no bearing

[Dunnstral]

I'll analyze Nosferatu's stuff

I haven't played with a lot of these people

VOTE: podoboq
confusing name to type

starts off RVS voting podoboq

implosion

I wanna vote you. Why is that?

Also

A50

's 139 is bad.

We know that A50 is probably town, at this point

VOTE: zach

quack

Zach vote

I get such bad vibez from

implosion

man

am I going crazy or something

I just realized that there are literally only 4 people I played with , in here.
Nosferatu, do you recall the game where Firebringer was scum with Xtoxm Traitor, and what's his face as the 3rd scum? There's something strange going on here and I 'd like for you to try to look at that game. I'm going to dig into that game as well (moderated by chamber). I think that may help us in discerning alignment for Mr. X.

I had forgotten about that game but at first glance the ISOs here and there seem a bit different. Don't want to make any conclusions from that immediately, but I'll be paying more attention in the future.

Useless post

UNVOTE:

Hi, not caught up, but Zach is better now.

OK...

@Wake

no I knew you were talking about Titus

, thought I was being pretty clear in what I wrote

I said I'd give detailed reasons tonight,

but i liked how you implied I wasn't skilled

and wouldn't catch on to whatever Titus would try pulling

You're not being consistent.

You say you knew I was talking about Titus, but earlier you said I implied you weren't skilled.

I never said you weren't skilled.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Mirhawk, you know you're to respond.

I don't see a lack of consistency here.

Defending me

BEETLEJUICING IN

You think nosferatu is town? Based on what, his gut feel about implosion?

and this... i also don't understand why nos gets freebie towncred

I'm just that good man

nah, but I actually fell behind, reading up from last post

Now responds to Lapsa, who we know to have been town

Lapsa why do you tr me and what're these problems with Nos?

you seem kind a consistent enough with previous games

nos is lurking

Come to think of it, Nos was more active in a game I played with him in , last year. Still doing catchup but what I've seen so far, isn't much from Nos other than throwing shade on imp. He never elaborated on that either.

that was a tonal thing. It wasn't awkward-scum but like not-stepping-on-anyones-toes-scum.

Not really sure what's being said here

sorry, I'm just in too many games.

replacing out

rip my replacement for having to read through all this.

pedit: or you guys could lynch me, that could happen too.

sorry, I'm just in too many games.

replacing out

rip my replacement for having to read through all this.

pedit: or you guys could lynch me, that could happen too.

Is this an invitation? This doesn't sound towny.

that's a loaded question. If you guys were still looking for scum, ^^^^^.

Responds to Boem before replacing out

[Dunnstral]

@Zach can I get you to explain why performer?

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

And he soft defended Vedith.

i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

How about that fabled implosion lynch did you see his post

what about that post pinged you?

Can you point out where Performer soft defended Vedith?

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach can I get you to explain why performer?

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

And he soft defended Vedith.

i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

How about that fabled implosion lynch did you see his post

what about that post pinged you?

Can you point out where Performer soft defended Vedith?

Vedith's posts are a lot worse than nosferatu's

Dunnstral is my hero
Vedith your posts stink

I'm not perfect, but I do have meta with Vedith 's towngame . He is generally smug and brief, as I've been seeing in this game. When I first played with him, I scumread him quickly but he turned out to be town, so I do see where you guys are coming from. #usemetaitisavitaltool

Vedith's posts are a lot worse than nosferatu's

Dunnstral is my hero
Vedith your posts stink

I'm not perfect, but I do have meta with Vedith 's towngame . He is generally smug and brief, as I've been seeing in this game. When I first played with him, I scumread him quickly but he turned out to be town, so I do see where you guys are coming from. #usemetaitisavitaltool

So you think we're headed in wrong direction with his lynch? What's the alternative?

My lynch pool:
any of the fake claimers
trans
a50
sickofit
possibly Mirhawk

I wanted to include Airick, but he has recently returned this week with some alright input.

I'd like a VC update from mod please.

Vedith was not in this lynch pool at that point in time. It's also laughable almost all of those names were townreads of mine save for Mirhawk alone.


He then acquiesces to a Vedith lynch after " looking through his ISO " nullifying the statement he made about meta.

[Dunnstral]

So you're not townreading mirhawk?

Hey, guess what...

[Zachstralkita]

So you're not townreading mirhawk?

Hey, guess what...

hey he's my option 2 I'm not ABANDONING my lynch like that so early