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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:29 pm

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Votecount 1.12:


Aristophanes (3): GuiltyLion, TellTaleHeart, duppin
BulletNLynchproof (2): Elyse, Postie
Elyse (1): Fire Assassin
Fire Assassin (1): Wingback
Wingback (1): BulletNLynchproof
Postie (0):
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Not Voting (1): Aristophanes

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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:40 pm

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In post 268, Postie wrote:Although I am gut townreading Aristo, ftr.
why?

Don't have much else to comment on right now, my reads have gotten relatively static.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:44 pm

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VOTE: Aristophanes

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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:44 pm

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I guess I will just say that Postie's approach towards her gut townread on Aristo feels different this game than her approach in Word Sneak 2, and I thought Aristo was far townier in WS2 than he is here. In WS2 she said she thought he was probably town but still pushed him on things and asked for explanations, here she's kinda just ignoring him.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:01 pm

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In post 248, Aristophanes wrote:I was not throwing shade at Postie, I'm refuting something I believe to be incorrect. Responding to "her scumgame is weak" with "no, she literally got Nommed for a Scummy for it" is not throwing shade.

For us to be a scumteam, I'd have to be scum. And I'm not scum. So...
In post 249, Aristophanes wrote:I didn't vote Postie because I obviously need a better footing here, as I'm missing too many things (as Elyse noted). I need to reevaluate things before proceeding.
In post 251, Aristophanes wrote:Oh.
Well, from my experience, your scum game is not weak at all. I may be tainted by that first encounter though. RC talked you up A Lot! And I respect his opinions on players quite a bit.
These feel gut towny for some reason.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:01 pm

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I'm very much opposed to this wagon and I also think the lack of a counterwagon strongly suggests this is a mislynch.
Unvote please.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:04 pm

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No.

There was an attempt to counter wagon on me and one on Bullet.

I am townreading everyone on the wagon and strongly scumreading Aris.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:05 pm

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In post 278, GuiltyLion wrote:I guess I will just say that Postie's approach towards her gut townread on Aristo feels different this game than her approach in Word Sneak 2, and I thought Aristo was far townier in WS2 than he is here. In WS2 she said she thought he was probably town but still pushed him on things and asked for explanations, here she's kinda just ignoring him.
I like how you call me out on being different but then just leave those comments hanging in the air without saying anything about what you think they mean with regards to my alignment.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:07 pm

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I think it's pretty clear what they mean with regards to my opinion of your alignment
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:08 pm

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In post 281, Elyse wrote:There was an attempt to counter wagon on me and one on Bullet.
Those have had zero traction though. And the fact that the Aristo wagon has sprung up so organically and no one is being particularly forceful about it I feel rules out the possibility of scum bussing.
This is a mislynch. Unvote.
In post 281, Elyse wrote:I am townreading everyone on the wagon and strongly scumreading Aris.
a) Why are you townreading the people on the wagon?
b) Even if everyone on the wagon were town, what does that have anything to do with Aristo's alignment?
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:09 pm

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In post 205, Postie wrote:
In post 202, GuiltyLion wrote:Postie what's your read on Aristo?
Don't have one. I agree his opening was a bit off, but not off enough for me to consider him a scumread.
I think his wagon is largely, if not completely, town-driven. Maybe there's a scum sitting on it somewhere, but I think the people actually pushing it are likely town.
When did this opinion change?
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:10 pm

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In post 283, GuiltyLion wrote:I think it's pretty clear what they mean with regards to my opinion of your alignment
Then why don't you just come out and say it instead of aimlessly throwing shade?
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:11 pm

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In post 285, GuiltyLion wrote:When did this opinion change?
Around post .
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:14 pm

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It'd also be easier to start a CW if Aristophanes would vote, ftr

P-EDIT: what's the alignment-indicative difference between me explicitly saying "Postie's townread on Aristo doesn't look like the last time I played with town!her and she has a townread on Aristo,
therefore I think she's scummy
" vs omitting that last part? That feels like a semantic point from you
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:15 pm

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Also I was asking about the town-driven wagon thing, sorry should have clarified
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:18 pm

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In post 288, GuiltyLion wrote:P-EDIT: what's the alignment-indicative difference between me explicitly saying "Postie's townread on Aristo doesn't look like the last time I played with town!her and she has a townread on Aristo,
therefore I think she's scummy
" vs omitting that last part? That feels like a semantic point from you
Because one says "here is why I'm scumreading Postie" and the other says "hey guys have you noticed this thing Postie did? isn't
totally
weird? omg guys look!".
It also leaves room for you to backtrack if people disagree and go "well I never said I was scumreading Postie; I just thought it was weird so I made a note of it".
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:19 pm

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In post 284, Postie wrote:
In post 281, Elyse wrote:There was an attempt to counter wagon on me and one on Bullet.
Those have had zero traction though. And the fact that the Aristo wagon has sprung up so organically and no one is being particularly forceful about it I feel rules out the possibility of scum bussing.
This is a mislynch. Unvote.
In post 281, Elyse wrote:I am townreading everyone on the wagon and strongly scumreading Aris.
a) Why are you townreading the people on the wagon?
b) Even if everyone on the wagon were town, what does that have anything to do with Aristo's alignment?
You ruled out bussing but then ask why everyone being town on the wagon has to do with Aris' alignment. Lol. Bussing this early on day 1 in a micro when Aris isn't an obvious lynch is an unlikely move for scum so a wagon with a bunch of townies on it looks good to me.

Not going through my reasons for townreading the three of them, do you disagree with any?
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:21 pm

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In post 291, Elyse wrote:You ruled out bussing but then ask why everyone being town on the wagon has to do with Aris' alignment. Lol. Bussing this early on day 1 in a micro when Aris isn't an obvious lynch is an unlikely move for scum so a wagon with a bunch of townies on it looks good to me.
Yeah because town never wagon town amirite
In post 291, Elyse wrote:Not going through my reasons for townreading the three of them, do you disagree with any?
Do you see my vote?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:41 pm

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Are you seriously trying to argue that a town led wagon is more likely to be scum?

Your reason for voting GL is bad.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:45 pm

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That question didn't make sense.

*town led wagon more likely to be on town
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:00 pm

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In post 293, Elyse wrote:Are you seriously trying to argue that a town led wagon is more likely to be scum?
In post 294, Elyse wrote:That question didn't make sense.

*town led wagon more likely to be on town
No. I'm saying town-led wagons on town happen often enough that saying "this wagon is likely on scum because the people on it are town" is bullshit.
In post 293, Elyse wrote:Your reason for voting GL is bad.
Okay. Why?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:49 pm

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Except both of us agreed bussing is unlikely. So what wagon composition should I be looking for?

GL didn't back down or take a wishy-washy position when you questioned him which makes me think his intention was to scumread you.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:05 pm

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In post 296, Elyse wrote:Except both of us agreed bussing is unlikely. So what wagon composition should I be looking for?
I'm saying it's a town-led wagon on town.
In post 296, Elyse wrote:GL didn't back down or take a wishy-washy position when you questioned him which makes me think his intention was to scumread you.
Hmmn, perhaps. It's still giving me weird feelings though. :/
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:03 pm

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Alright-y, I'm about to go to sleep but I am all caught up on reading the thread.
Quick thoughts: I like GuiltyLion for town and I still like my vote on Ari. I would be good with that or a Postie lynch.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:05 pm

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