Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

[Bellaphant]

I don't think vanity wagons are always town, though?

[Bellaphant]

*scum. Ugh, shouldn't post before coffee.

[Zulfy]

This one is different, Nahdia

[Dwlee99]

This is actually why a i am tunneling him

why does that make him scum?

ummmm....

dwlee's town, you're town, Ranger is nullscum.... if i have others i dont remember them.

why Ranger?

1 person vanity vote on town.
And I actually hate that spiffeh flip vote but it is hard to explain

[Dwlee99]

I don't think vanity wagons are always town, though?

*scum. Ugh, shouldn't post before coffee.

yea ik but it is more lilely to be scum especially when itle isnt even a town read of mine

[RadiantCowbells]

Anyone have recent Zulfy!Scum meta?

Bella is confusing me.

[Zulfy]

I've only been scum once

[Bellaphant]

Hey RC, what do you wanna know?

[Zulfy]

Zulfy!Scum

Hahaha ha

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not sure.

Don't rush the day phase. I got conftown and I want to use it.

[pieguyn]

actually, after looking at it again, I don't like itle's end-of-D1 play at all, namely the fact that he came in and pushed dwlee who had no chance of being lynched while ignoring the rest of what was actually going on in the game. he didn't take any kind of stance on Katsuki/Aris whatsoever. I think this is something that's most likely to come from scum who isn't sure how to approach the situation in a way that would make them look good, since it was fairly obvious one of Katsuki/Aris was going to be the lynch.

Nahdia did something similar; she side-stepped me asking her for a read on Aris, and then went into pushing Zulfy, without commenting on Aris again until the wagon was ready to be hammered (and even then it was just a vote).

[Nahdia]

because zulfy was/is scummier.

[pieguyn]

because zulfy was/is scummier.

the entire point is that it read more like your goal was to avoid committing to a read on Aris entirely. did you really think that in that situation, with only you and Ranger voting him, there was a good enough chance of Zulfy getting lynched with a last-minute deadline wagon with only a day and half left? moreover, did you really think it was worth the risk given you appeared to have a scum read on Katsuki and a scum read on me (the primary supporter of the Aris wagon)?

[Nahdia]

i dont really care if u scumread me, pieguyn.

[pieguyn]

oh, absolutely fucking not. you don't get to pull this "lel I don't care look how town I am" bullshit over me.

what I'm saying is perfectly valid and if you don't convince me I'm wrong I'm going to push for people to lynch you after I die.

[Nahdia]

step OFF girl. you're asking me if i considered the ramifications of me sitting on a vanity wagon until the last second. those ramifications being that "it would appear scummy". and im telling you that no, i didn't, because i dont particularly give a shit. i sat on the zulfy wagon on a matter of principle because he is my desired lynch. i didnt particularly have an opinion on your aristo push and if u have a problem with that then sux to be you.

[Nahdia]

i flipped blue so idk what more u want from me, yo. i'm not a godfather or w/e, ok?

[Nahdia]

i will vote my vanity wagons and you will fucking deal with it.

[pieguyn]

step OFF girl. you're asking me if i considered the ramifications of me sitting on a vanity wagon until the last second. those ramifications being that "it would appear scummy". and im telling you that no, i didn't, because i dont particularly give a shit. i sat on the zulfy wagon on a matter of principle because he is my desired lynch. i didnt particularly have an opinion on your aristo push and if u have a problem with that then sux to be you.

if you didn't have an opinion on my Aris push, why were you scum reading me at that point in the game?

and no, the ramification of this is that from your POV, with the reads you had, the obvious conclusion should have been that I was hard pushing a mislynch on Aris to save Katsuki as my partner. that is not something you would "not give a shit" about, especially if you thought I was in so strong of a position that you'd have to color-flip me in order to get me lynched.

[Nahdia]

Local Townslot Catches Scum; Doesn't Particularly Give A Fuck About What Other People Are Bickering About. more on this at 11.

[pieguyn]

you seemed to give enough of a fuck to play an entire day phase attempting to trick me into thinking you had a town read on me.

???

[Nahdia]

step OFF girl. you're asking me if i considered the ramifications of me sitting on a vanity wagon until the last second. those ramifications being that "it would appear scummy". and im telling you that no, i didn't, because i dont particularly give a shit. i sat on the zulfy wagon on a matter of principle because he is my desired lynch. i didnt particularly have an opinion on your aristo push and if u have a problem with that then sux to be you.

if you didn't have an opinion on my Aris push, why were you scum reading me at that point in the game?

Bella can be town.

@itle,

can you respond to these?

what specifically don't you like about it? is there a part of his reasoning or the way he's pushing it that comes off as disingenuous?

you mean to say it agrees with your reads or? what exactly about it makes it "godreads"?

this.

and no, the ramification of this is that from your POV, with the reads you had, the obvious conclusion should have been that I was hard pushing a mislynch on Aris to save Katsuki as my partner. that is not something you would "not give a shit" about, especially if you thought I was in so strong of a position that you'd have to color-flip me in order to get me lynched.

ok i see your point but quite frankly i just didn't think of it from that angle. i know you're gonna be unsatisfied with this answer but that's all there is to it. aristo was a lurksack and i didn't feel the need to defend him.

[Nahdia]

you seemed to give enough of a fuck to play an entire day phase attempting to trick me into thinking you had a town read on me.

???

because saying "i think pie is town" is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much effffffffffffffooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttt

[Nahdia]

im a 3rd party and my wincondition is to mess with pieguyn. if pieguyn make at least 3 posts which consist primarily of expressing exasperation at my trolling, i win the game immediately and everyone else loses.

[pieguyn]

because saying "i think pie is town" is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much effffffffffffffooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttt

no, no, no. there is a huge difference between saying "I think pie is town" and structuring your entire game around giving me a false sense of security/making sure I don't catch on to you scum reading me, because it's that important that you're able to color flip me the next day (i.e. just as one example I can think of, even if you said something along the lines of "I'm weirded out by pie's post X", that would potentially tip me off and ruin what you were going for...) thinking I'm in such a good position as scum and thinking that the only way to lynch me is to get me color-flipped is incongruous with you now apparently claiming you weren't putting any effort into making sure my color-flip would be accurate.

this.

and I really have trouble seeing how that post in particular could lead to a scum read, tbh, as opposed to either of my pushes where the bulk of my content came from, but I'm not going to nitpick over it.