Micro 622: Queen Mafia GAME OVER


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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:04 pm

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Ok so nothing?

Gotcha.

You know the longer you hold onto the terrible scumread on me, the worse you look. I thought you were just offended that I called your case terrible (which it was) but you should be over it by now. :/
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:06 pm

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In post 325, Elyse wrote:Ok so nothing?

Gotcha.

You know the longer you hold onto the terrible scumread on me, the worse you look. I thought you were just offended that I called your case terrible (which it was) but you should be over it by now. :/
I don't believe my previous case was nothing, and I don't even know how if my read was based on little or nothing it would be a "Gotcha". You are on odd on to think in this line of thoughts.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:08 pm

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In post 322, Elyse wrote:
In post 242, Elyse wrote:239 pings me so hard. The overjustified, apologetic unvote of Bullet, the slight shade at Postie, the ridiculous defense of Bullet at the end when you were voting him like two posts earlier.

That was such an awkward and complete backoff of Bullet for "towny toned posts that you missed". Like are you even reading the game? You've "missed" a crazy amount of posts.

I wouldn't be surprised with a Bullet/Aris scumteam.
Being apologetic and over-justifying stuff is just an Aristo thing; it isn't alignment indicative. I didn't see him throwing any shade at me at me either, only calling someone out on calling my scumgame weak; there was nothing there to imply I should be scumread because of it. Saying something isn't a good example of someone's meta is hardly a defence either, especially since he was addressing BNL and not the thread.

So yeah. Aristo's still a mislynch.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:11 pm

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Hey guys, wanna wagon BNL? You both have him as null/scum, right?

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:16 pm

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In post 328, Postie wrote:Hey guys, wanna wagon BNL? You both have him as null/scum, right?

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof
I have already said that BNL I wouldn't support his lynch today.
Now can you explain beyond wagon speed why aristo is a mislynch?
It seems a weird read, you explained away things as NAI so what exactly makes it a town mislynch if only thing is the speed?
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:17 pm

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In post 327, Postie wrote:So yeah. Aristo's still a mislynch.
Other than "gut" and something about ~wagon feels~, is there a reason for this insistence?
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:18 pm

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TTH you want to talk with me because I have been taking "potshots" at you?
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:19 pm

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In post 329, Fire Assassin wrote:Now can you explain beyond wagon speed why aristo is a mislynch?
It seems a weird read, you explained away things as NAI so what exactly makes it a town mislynch if only thing is the speed?
I didn't say wagon speed. I wouldn't make a wagon speed argument I'm not that bad anymore god.
He's town because there have been no counterwagons that have gotten any traction. And scum aren't bussing or there'd be people making a bigger deal of getting Aristo lynched.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:20 pm

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In post 326, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 325, Elyse wrote:Ok so nothing?

Gotcha.

You know the longer you hold onto the terrible scumread on me, the worse you look. I thought you were just offended that I called your case terrible (which it was) but you should be over it by now. :/
I don't believe my previous case was nothing, and I don't even know how if my read was based on little or nothing it would be a "Gotcha". You are on odd on to think in this line of thoughts.
The gotcha was as in "your read is based on nothing, got it".

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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:21 pm

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Spoiler: Context, your only two previous interactions with me
In post 60, Fire Assassin wrote:What important things did TTH say exactly? Am I missing something in these three pages, TTH has basically done nothing memorable...
In post 89, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 76, TellTaleHeart wrote:You must have memory loss, old man. You obviously read my post.
I am getting to old to kill all the scum, one day i will select an heir to be the Ras Al Ghul. But today is not that day.
Why you so relaxed in your tone TTH? Do you worry about my skills at reading you (even with your calm demeanor its too calm.....)
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:22 pm

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In post 331, Fire Assassin wrote:TTH you want to talk with me because I have been taking "potshots" at you?
Sure, as long as you don't ask me things that I literally
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:23 pm

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In post 330, TellTaleHeart wrote:Other than "gut" and something about ~wagon feels~, is there a reason for this insistence?
OH MY GOD
Scum aren't going to sit there and twiddle their thumbs while their partner gets lynched. They'll either push a counterwagon or start actively pushing for his lynch so they can take credit for it, and no one is doing either of those things.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:23 pm

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You are pushing a counterwagon
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:24 pm

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Sure. But I'm town.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 332, Postie wrote:I didn't say wagon speed. I wouldn't make a wagon speed argument I'm not that bad anymore god.
He's town because there have been no counterwagons that have gotten any traction. And scum aren't bussing or there'd be people making a bigger deal of getting Aristo lynched.
"Counterwagon" arguments are about on the same level as "wagon speed" arguments.

Both of which are garbage.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:24 pm

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@TTH So are we not going to discuss anything or you just going to quote posts?
I tend to agree with my post 60 as most of your posts were not memorable even if I did quote you, your presence has been generally lacking, not to make that sound dismissive, that just what I have been seeing.

I am always interested in your opinions though since I consider you a quality player.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:26 pm

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In post 338, Postie wrote:Sure. But I'm town.
I don't know about that

I was townreading you

But not anymore

I think the scumteam is within this group of four:

Aris, FA, Postie, NBL

But then again the Wingback slot is a mystery so idk
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:27 pm

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In post 336, Postie wrote:
In post 330, TellTaleHeart wrote:Other than "gut" and something about ~wagon feels~, is there a reason for this insistence?
OH MY GOD
Scum aren't going to sit there and twiddle their thumbs while their partner gets lynched. They'll either push a counterwagon or start actively pushing for his lynch so they can take credit for it, and no one is doing either of those things.
Thought experiment: what if the partner is relatively inactive?

That's precisely why those arguments are garbage. It's reducing something with a million variables into an overly simplistic model.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:28 pm

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In post 339, TellTaleHeart wrote:"Counterwagon" arguments are about on the same level as "wagon speed" arguments.
Only because of the possibility of scum bussing and it's pretty fucking obvious there's no bussing going on here.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:29 pm

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In post 341, Elyse wrote:
In post 338, Postie wrote:Sure. But I'm town.
I don't know about that

I was townreading you

But not anymore

I think the scumteam is within this group of four:

Aris, FA, Postie, NBL

But then again the Wingback slot is a mystery so idk
Okay your scum team is in a group of four players, when their is nine players total in the game. You have just slightly below 50% of the player base in your group of possible scum.

I really think that is horrible on every level.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:29 pm

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That is actually likely from town though Elyse, so maybe I am wrong.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:30 pm

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In post 342, TellTaleHeart wrote:Thought experiment: what if the partner is relatively inactive?

That's precisely why those arguments are garbage. It's reducing something with a million variables into an overly simplistic model.
Okay so he could
possibly
be scum in a world where Iprobablysuck/Wingback is scum.
Is Iprobablysuck/Wingback scum?
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:30 pm

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I find Aristo more over-explainy as scum than town. I'll explain why when I get on a computer in a sec.

Pretty much on the exact same page as Elyse here

Also it's frustrating that Wingback isn't posting but I found IPS very town for the newbie bravado so I'm willing to let him slide for a bit
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:33 pm

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In post 340, Fire Assassin wrote:I am always interested in your opinions though since I consider you a quality player.
Seriously?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:34 pm

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In post 344, Fire Assassin wrote:Okay your scum team is in a group of four players, when their is nine players total in the game. You have just slightly below 50% of the player base in your group of possible scum.

I really think that is horrible on every level.
Having 4 townreads is "horrible on every level"?
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