Yeah, I don't think thats the case.In post 474, Elyse wrote:My point is that your case was so bad that if you actually pursued it, people would take notice and give you heat for it. Hence the back off
So what don't you understand? I've already explained that I formed a townread on AriIn post 453, duppin wrote:You keep claiming that anyone not playing their typical towngame isn't necessarily scum which is true, but they aren't necessarily town either.
PoE.In post 454, duppin wrote:I'd mainly like to hear your read on me and TTH.
u r wrongIn post 455, BNL wrote:and I think that is town.
Why's that a problem?In post 457, BNL wrote:There's a problem with this. Postie hasn't stated a scumread on TTH before GL voted her.In post 390, Postie wrote:If I'm right about GL/TTH then them swinging an L-1 wagon over from someone townreading GL to an L-1 wagon on someone scumreading both of them makes perfect sense.
I disagree strongly. For example, Iprobablysuck has shown the kind of newbtown behaviour where when I see it I instantly write the person off as conftown until further notice. And when it comes to making a read like that on a newbie, I've never been wrong before. I would bet the game on most of my townreads.In post 460, Fire Assassin wrote:I don't agree with your analysis on it, and to be honest I think your reasons for townreading me and others are very weak and not very alignment indicative.
Well, sure, but I highly doubt you would have been as scum in that specific context. You had the choice of making a post and either phrasing it in a way that is helpful and potentially gets you townread or adding a snarky tone that instantly makes it look 80% less helpful and town.In post 460, Fire Assassin wrote:For example "Scum!Fire would not be snarky here" isn't really a good reason, as I can be snarky at any point as either alignment I believe.
>says this is a mistake he tries to avoidIn post 463, GuiltyLion wrote:First, some context - the post she quoted is from a Newbie game, where someone asked "If you could go back in time and tell yourself one thing about this game before you started playing, what would it be?". So like, from the context of the question I'm answering, it means that the "dangerous fallacy" is a pattern of thinking that I have fallen into before, or tend to fall into, because I'm literally talking about something I would tell past!me. I even say in the quote that I still always try to focus on it, because it's a mistake that's bitten me many times before.
So even if we grant Postie the point/argument that I'm doing to Aristophanes what I said not to do in this post, her argument is weakened because in context, town!me is saying this is a mistake that I should always try to avoid. That doesn't mean I'm perfect, that doesn't mean town!me will never do it.
Note @ everyone: things don't stop being scummy just because you haven't done them in other places. That's not how scumtells work.In post 463, GuiltyLion wrote:Finally, she's ignoring evidence that I'm in town!scumhunting mode in this very game!
In Ari's case it's his playstyle that's changing, which is fine, because playstyles do that. In your case,In post 468, GuiltyLion wrote:In post 435, Postie wrote:I strongly oppose any assertion that anyone not playing to their typical towngame is likely scum because of it. Playstyles can vary from game to game.Also, Postie - why is your bolded here different than what you said in 435? Because I'm sitting here seeing you saying Aristophanes is not scum for not playing to his towngame, and then saying I am scum for not playing to something I said I should do as town.In post 446, Postie wrote:I want GuiltyLion lynched today for what I highlighted in 445;GL is playing directly contrary to how heknowshe should be playing the game as town.
It doesn't link the two of them together. I was independently scumreading both of them. Aristophanes was the center of attention early in the game. Postie ignoring that and pushing elsewhere re-inforced my suspicions about both of them. If I didn't have other reasons to scumread them both, I wouldn't have found it notable.In post 434, GuiltyLion wrote:This is referring to her vote on Fire Assassin, correct? Why do you call the FA vote an early counter wagon when Elyse was already an early counterwagon? Like I feel like you could make this point about Postie pushing any non-Aristophanes wagon, or any non-Postie player pushing a non-Aristophanes wagon, it doesn't actually link the two of them together (outside of hindsight if they are actually both scum).In post 430, Wingback wrote:I also do feel that Postie pushing an early counterwagon to Aristophanes makes sense for a partner to do which makes both of those scumreads stronger
idk I like most of the things that you've said but they feel a littletooconsistent with the current thread temperature. I'd rather flip within Postie/Aristo first though.
1. Why are you are townreading me for matching your thoughts when you posted them in thread first? It would have been different if I said something you were thinking but not saying aloud in thread.In post 456, BNL wrote:I also like Wingback for town, for the following reasons:
1) Many of his thought processes match mine. These are my stance on GuiltyLion a while ago (though he's leaning scum now), and read on Duppin and Fire Assassin.
2) With the structure of the game so far, lurking is a towntell, or at least he isn't scum with Postie or Aristo. He has shown that he has been been online, just that he was not posting. If he was scum with either Postie or Aristo, I'd expect his buddy to say in the scum PT something like "Partner, I'm at L-1, DO SOMETHING", and he wouldn't be just stuck at page six.
BNL never said he thought the case was good. He just said he was townreading Fire for the case. That could mean any number of things most likely scenarios being that BNL thought Fire's thought process was town, or that he though Fire's aggression was town, or that he thought Fire sounded like he believed in his case even if he BNL saw it as misguided.In post 472, Elyse wrote:I just don't see a townie reading a case, disagreeing with it, and then townreading someone for it. Like if the case is good, why do you disagree with it? It makes more sense coming from an informed point of view.
Why did you think they were scumbuddies at that point?In post 472, Elyse wrote:You're right. It makes more sense if BNL is town.
lolIn post 481, Wingback wrote:Postie is universally scumread because she's obviously scum.
Humour me.In post 485, Wingback wrote:TTH, Duppin, and GuiltyLion are town, no question about it. Happy to elaborate on any of these if needed.
Why?In post 487, BNL wrote:I do agree that Postie is scummy
What? Why are you trying to compare your play here to how you play as scum?In post 475, Fire Assassin wrote:Yeah, I don't think thats the case.In post 474, Elyse wrote:My point is that your case was so bad that if you actually pursued it, people would take notice and give you heat for it. Hence the back off
I am pretty sure if I was scum I would continue pushing it, but I have no clue. Ill ask my scumself if I ever in similar situation again to inform me what I would actually do.
How is that post towny? What's up with the weak town reads this game by the way. (not aimed at you, several players have been giving out weird townreads)
I'd like to hear it yes.but I can ISO TTH to try and pinpoint why I'm feeling that way if you like.
Because I don't understand your need to come out the way you did you weren't townreading him. I know you've explained yourself several times but I obviously still don't agree with your logic.In post 476, Postie wrote:So what don't you understand? I've already explained that I formed a townread on AriIn post 453, duppin wrote:You keep claiming that anyone not playing their typical towngame isn't necessarily scum which is true, but they aren't necessarily town either.independantlyof this (see readswall), not because of it.
I don't think Wingback is Postie's partner; if Wingback is scum it makes more sense for Postie to be a mislynch IMO.In post 487, BNL wrote:Or is being bussed. I actually haven't considered that thoroughly, I should probably find some potential bussers now.
First thing is more theory I guess. I disagree but there's no point in arguing.In post 483, Wingback wrote:BNL never said he thought the case was good. He just said he was townreading Fire for the case. That could mean any number of things most likely scenarios being that BNL thought Fire's thought process was town, or that he though Fire's aggression was town, or that he thought Fire sounded like he believed in his case even if he BNL saw it as misguided.In post 472, Elyse wrote:I just don't see a townie reading a case, disagreeing with it, and then townreading someone for it. Like if the case is good, why do you disagree with it? It makes more sense coming from an informed point of view.
Why did you think they were scumbuddies at that point?In post 472, Elyse wrote:You're right. It makes more sense if BNL is town.
