Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

[Creature]

More votes on Smithereens would be good.

are you trying to start a wagon or just get more out of them? (seeing as they only have 2 posts and i frankly can't get enough from that to place a legitimate vote)

agree with this somewhat, however the post he made about creature I agreed with so I don't see what creature's issue is unless it's omgus.

yeah i didn't have a problem with Smithereens' thought on creature early. Creature did try to make a case on smithereens though so let me go back and read it

"Oh I just skipped Smith's case on Creature, I might go back and re-read it, maybe I could make an opportunistic push"

[Creature]

I don't think Dragon + Smith matches.

[Creature]

First Thoughts: 'Damn 3 pages already this game is hella active'
*reads the game*
3 people engaged in small chat... :\


VOTE: Creature
Somewhat serious vote, not entirely RVS. There's absolutely no way you're getting a town read from the very first post a person makes in the game. If you could I'd just copy/paste that post everywhere I went as scum and you'd be none the wiser. Possible that Creature is buddying, I don't like how he talks about 'early town activity' or some shit like that as if he's trying to seem a part of it.

This post fits perfectly a scum being opportunistic. Robbnva is having problems with early townreads, so what would stop scum from supporting him and make stupid lynches?

if you're arguing that scum is supporting him when he's having trouble with early reads, that would make scum exposed and we could just look at people jumping onto wagons with no real information. also, they made a legitimate argument given how early we were in the game when they posted this.
And what would stop them from making stupid lynches? hopefully everyone else needing information before blindly jumping on wagons. i dunno man, your point feels forced

Okay, Dragon is pretty much scum.

He's using genericness rather than his direct thoughts.

[Creature]

He did? Oh I missed that post somehow. I'll have to read it later

i didn't like the case he made

He's attacking my case rather than my play -_-

[Dragon of the West]

Hello, everyone! General question: what's your favorite dessert?
VOTE: Creature (I won't lurk this time if you don't.)

I really like brownie bottom pie with vanilla ice cream and whipped cream

Bad.

?

[Creature]

I think the point creature is making is that scum were taking advantage of robbnva having issues with people having town reads and using it as an excuse to try to push a lynch through. (Which is a decent argument imo)

That makes more sense i was misunderstanding what creature originally meant by "problems with townreads". Either way I'm not sure that was Smithereens trying to jump on and push for a lynch. iirc creature didn't even have a vote on him that wasn't from rvs and robb didn't place a vote on him during that squabble. if there were more votes on creature i could see it as scum pushing for a lynch but being the first legitimate vote on creature doesn't convince me fully.
I would like to see what Smith has to say though considering we're now days in and they've only posted twice.

This isn't town thinking.

[Dragon of the West]

^ I think mafia killed Dwlee99 because:

- SK would see Robbnva more as a threat to him rather than mafia who's just eliminating strong town reads and keeping WIFOM in the game.

- I don't think a vigilante would shoot Dwlee99, some showed paranoia but I don't see someone doing a hero vig here.

I don't understand this post.

[Creature]

First Thoughts: 'Damn 3 pages already this game is hella active'
*reads the game*
3 people engaged in small chat... :\


VOTE: Creature
Somewhat serious vote, not entirely RVS. There's absolutely no way you're getting a town read from the very first post a person makes in the game. If you could I'd just copy/paste that post everywhere I went as scum and you'd be none the wiser. Possible that Creature is buddying, I don't like how he talks about 'early town activity' or some shit like that as if he's trying to seem a part of it.

This post fits perfectly a scum being opportunistic. Robbnva is having problems with early townreads, so what would stop scum from supporting him and make stupid lynches?

I believe this was the first non RVS vote of the game. How informed do you want it to be...? Read it in context please.

Don't like the way Smith treats me here.

[Creature]

Robbnva looks more likely to screw the SK than Dwlee99 does, while mafia don't have to worry so much about Robbnva.

[Creature]

Nvm, I think Robbnva got widely town read at the end of D1.

[Dragon of the West]

Aaaaaand they're mostly shitposting, w-w-wow.

Not sure how you can say it's mostly shit posting. Lots of game discussion has taken place in the past 2/3 pages.
What's your opinion on these discussions? The serious votes on me, the serious vote on creature, the refusal to give opinions on those 2 things by atm?

Any thoughts at all?

Let me read it 2-3 times and I'll present my opinion. I'd rather not form a serious opinion on spot after one read if I weren't there while the discussion was happening at all. When I am forced to catch up (and I often am due to time zones), I prefer to take a few horus to read everything carefully a few times.

"I'd rather not form a serious opinion on spot after one read" Scum
"When I am forced to catch up" Town

so, net neutral? this contradicts itself

[Creature]

I believe this was the first non RVS vote of the game.

well you're wrong

I'm not. However you missed my point, Creature reacted really poorly to a vote that was justified for that point in the game. With more material I wouldn't say that I should keep my vote there, however I didn't expect Creature to feel so threatened by it. A hit maybe? That would be damned interesting, however I'd preferably like to hear what he says for himself before we discuss meta on reactions vs innocuous posts. Sufficient to say that there's plenty to investigate here.

For some reason Smith looks to be supposedly planning to use meta, which is quite of a town tell imo.

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: Dragon

ayyeee he's here

Why am I getting the feeling Dragon overreacts when stelo/petroleumjelly mentions him?

I know stelo (almost) irl. He goes to school with my little brother and we play league while we skype. He joined mafiascum because of me and my brother were talking about it one day. this was his first game (not super surprised he didn't play), but that's why I said "Ayyyee he's here"

[Creature]

Quite of like 202

[Dragon of the West]

I'll give Dwlee benefit of doubt and assume he's being antagonistic for the sake of arguments/activity. Not an ideal tact imo given all the activity, so take the hint.

he's gonna play that way regardless of what you say to him

Huh what?

antagonistic. He'll play that way no matter what you say to him. I know dwlee irl

[Creature]

I liked Dragon better in page 9.

[Creature]

And yeah, I don't think it's Dragon + Smith

[Creature]

Oh nice, Smith used the power of questioning.

[Creature]

OK listen, so I have been inactive lately because I have had alot on my mind and some stuff happened, but listen. I know for a fact creature is town, his posts are very revealing and if he's playing scum, he very good, if not, then he is very good at town too, rooting out the obvious people that have been active, for now, I would like to re-review all the posts and wait a little before voting, because many of us have been active and I am having a hard time deciding who to vote for, my apologies

personally, I just skimmed everything except stuff I was mentioned in, so I'll try to go over this later

The first post looks very "I want to try to contribute yet I can't"

The second doesn't make sense.

[Creature]

I understand atm487 might've understood "can't vote atm487", but it looks like he's faking now.

[Dragon of the West]

Robbnva looks more likely to screw the SK than Dwlee99 does, while mafia don't have to worry so much about Robbnva.

Nvm, I think Robbnva got widely town read at the end of D1.

so you're saying that either SK or mafia could have killed either robb or dwlee?

[Creature]

I find it weird F-oh-ex is questioning me having too many town reads, yet I get not-so-experienced town vibes from him.

[Creature]

Liked 249.

Going to take a shower, then I'll finish re-reading and answer these "nice" questions you gave me, DotW.

[Eggman]

Welp, Dragon's confirmed as a neighbor now. I'm assuming the neighborhood is day-and-night talk, so: Dragon, did Robb tell you his results?
Also why so many posts Creature?

[F-oh-ex]

That flood gave me cancer. Also, SK is virtually confirmed because why would a Vig shoot either Dwlee or Robbvna? That "if" looks like trying to force a "townslip".
Also, you point out Derek is Town to you then you say "nvm Derek is Town". Consistency?

VOTE: Creature A shame his wagon died yesterday.