New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[cytheflyguy]

Cy, can you tell me why you're sure there are three scum left?

OK, sure, and after that I'll aim to answer PM's question on defence against him.

Anyhow, I believe that we're in mylo rn. As of yet, in a game with 21 players, only one person has flipped scum and another the serial killer. Obviously, there is at least one scum left, and only one faction of scum left, as there was only one kill tonight. We cannot have four or greater as the game would have ended in scum victory, meaning there's either 1, 2, or 3 scum left. With Titus' role (on even nights), and an odd night rolestopper, it seems unlikely there were only 2 scum, or it would seem rather unbalanced, making me believe there is 2 or 3 left. 2 left also feels like it's unbalanced. That being said, even if there were only 2 scum left, we should still treat this as a mylo, which would make our votes more cautious and it forces us to try and piece together roles to find the remaining scum. Does that answer your question?

[projectmatt]

So now we are in a holding pattern so ProjectMatt can provide content. I need to find a cool helicopter reaction pic ..

Lol, this looks like a lame excuse to not provide content. How are you guys being put in a holding pattern by me needing 24 hours to post content? We have 8 days until the deadline. It's an incredibly stupid idea to lynch so soon, even if we had a confirmed mafia. The idea is that more discussion leads to a lot more stuff to analyze/better reads.

A few things:

Egg is obviously, blatantly scum. I'm leaning him being partnered with Magna because of this post:

No. I don't do that.

who do you think is scum.

My best guess is Magna but my confidence is pretty shattered in this game.

In which he awkwardly tries to bus Magna but in a way that's non-committal so that he doesn't actually have to vote -for- Magna.

There's also this gem from yesterday:

Damn, why am I still alive =(

I kinda wanna lynch Magna but my reads have been shit.

Which makes a Magna pairing even more likely because he is once again awkwardly suspecting Magna without even remotely needing to commit.

Also, Magna's really terrible push on Copper that I initially read as town v town makes a lot more sense now if it was town vs scum.

The scum-team is still Liger, Magna, and Egg, because my townread on Zakk hasn't waivered.

I'm amused but frustrated that the majority of people now attacking me are people who haven't had scumreads on me for pretty much the entire game. I think it's because on days like this, it becomes a lot harder to attack the "big players" like Magna or even Egg, but I'm p. sure that the scumteam is those three. (assuming that we have 3 scum, anyway).

I wanna talk this stuff out with some of you guys.

[Titus]

Ok. Why is Zakk town? He's been pushing on townies forever (not just me).

[zakk]

So now we are in a holding pattern so ProjectMatt can provide content. I need to find a cool helicopter reaction pic ..

Lol, this looks like a lame excuse to not provide content. How are you guys being put in a holding pattern by me needing 24 hours to post content? We have 8 days until the deadline. It's an incredibly stupid idea to lynch so soon, even if we had a confirmed mafia. The idea is that more discussion leads to a lot more stuff to analyze/better reads.

it certainly does look like that. because that's exactly what it is

A few things:

Egg is obviously, blatantly scum.

i disagree, i only have him as scum due to PoE (if not for neighborhood i'd have you liger and magna). why is egg blatantly scum?

I'm leaning him being partnered with Magna because of this post:

No. I don't do that.

who do you think is scum.

My best guess is Magna but my confidence is pretty shattered in this game.

In which he awkwardly tries to bus Magna but in a way that's non-committal so that he doesn't actually have to vote -for- Magna.

interpretation is 9/10... etc.

i would expect a non-involved townie to have that exact train of thought

i'd also expect some reasons he suspected magna though, so there's that

There's also this gem from yesterday:

Damn, why am I still alive =(

I kinda wanna lynch Magna but my reads have been shit.

Which makes a Magna pairing even more likely because he is once again awkwardly suspecting Magna without even remotely needing to commit.

i see it. i feel it. but even though i think this is right, i think you're ALL trying to distance from each other so that no matter who dies, if it's one of you three, tomorrow will be even more confusing.

your only play at this point is to try to throw a wrench into people's reads solidifying.

Also, Magna's really terrible push on Copper that I initially read as town v town makes a lot more sense now if it was town vs scum.

hindsight's always 20/20, and this is null. this is just you distancing more.

The scum-team is still Liger, Magna, and Egg, because my townread on Zakk hasn't waivered.

if liger and magna are together on the same scum team i'll be a monkey's uncle

putting 2 scum in the neighborhood would be incredibly unlikely, and i would never do it as a mod

it's either liger or magna, and i would much rather lynch magna.

I'm amused but frustrated that the majority of people now attacking me are people who haven't had scumreads on me for pretty much the entire game. I think it's because on days like this, it becomes a lot harder to attack the "big players" like Magna or even Egg, but I'm p. sure that the scumteam is those three. (assuming that we have 3 scum, anyway).

are you willing to vote magna?

I wanna talk this stuff out with some of you guys.

this is what i like to hear

sure, let's talk. please respond to this post.

[zakk]

Ok. Why is Zakk town? He's been pushing on townies forever (not just me).

bc i'm town.

also, i push on everyone, and you know this.

ALSO, i have been exceptionally wrong this game and i admit that freely

but i am really sure i'm not wrong now

if you and cy are both town, then it literally HAS to be projectmatt, magna, and egg.

i mean yeah there's a chance of liger instead of magna but i really don't believe that

1. given magna's relative inactivity throughout the game and now his intense activity whenever he's threatened/challenged
2. given magna's hard-ass push on shaziro yesterday with the epically awesome case that was so good it just made me say "me too"
3. given magna's pushing on me as scum now when for the ENTIRE REST OF THE GAME he has just been calling me crazy/stupid
4. given magna's title

and i think there's literally a ZERO chance that magna and liger are both scum

and magna being active today (and liger replacing out) basically SCREAMS magna scum over liger

i suppose i should say creature, not liger. sorry creature.




so i can see that from your point of view (if you're town, which i choose to believe, because if not, we're dead anyway, because you're never getting lynched with that claim, and i will be the first one to defend you tbh):

zakk/projectmatt/egg/creature/magnaofillusion

that's a 60% chance of hitting scum

well, remove ONE OF magna or creature, and it becomes a 75% chance of hitting scum.
but you don't know which one to remove, since they are basically equal to you.

but i know my alignment. so scratch one off for me.

so my point of view is:

magna has been smearing me as dumb ALL game and is now trying to set me up for a mislynch, but is not voting me, OR projectmatt. he wants to convince people to vote me before he does

also liger in hindsight now seems much townier than magna did PLUS creature also seems pretty town (though i agree that could be easy to fake if you were good enough, but whatever it looks real enough to me, and it just feels right, AND magna just seems scummy as all hell today)

so:

projectmatt-egg-magna >>> projectmatt-egg-creature >>>>>> magna-creature-???

there's like literally only one option.

and i'm increasingly willing to lynch magna first.

[zakk]

Cy, can you tell me why you're sure there are three scum left?

OK, sure, and after that I'll aim to answer PM's question on defence against him.

Anyhow, I believe that we're in mylo rn. As of yet, in a game with 21 players, only one person has flipped scum and another the serial killer. Obviously, there is at least one scum left, and only one faction of scum left, as there was only one kill tonight. We cannot have four or greater as the game would have ended in scum victory, meaning there's either 1, 2, or 3 scum left. With Titus' role (on even nights), and an odd night rolestopper, it seems unlikely there were only 2 scum, or it would seem rather unbalanced, making me believe there is 2 or 3 left. 2 left also feels like it's unbalanced. That being said, even if there were only 2 scum left, we should still treat this as a mylo, which would make our votes more cautious and it forces us to try and piece together roles to find the remaining scum. Does that answer your question?

also i have considered and discarded the idea that we might no-lynch today

doing so would mean we hoped for one more VT result from Titus from one of the VTs, and narrow down the lynch pool by culling one that the scum might kill.

however, it would ACTUALLY result in Nahdia being killed, or cy, or titus, but i doubt they would kill one of the VTs to help us (plus they probably just block titus anyway)

so that idea is worthless.

[zakk]

damn where is everyone.

[Titus]

@Zakk, Can you shut up and let me process? We won that mini.

I will look at the votes. We will win.

[Nahdia]

im waiting on you. sarahkerrigan . mp3

[Egg]

Cy, so you are sure Titus is town? Why can't she be a scum role cop for example?

Projectmatt, wanna help me bus Magna then if he's my buddy?

[Egg]

Cy, so you are sure Titus is town? Why can't she be a scum role cop for example?

Projectmatt, wanna help me bus Magna then if he's my buddy?

[Creature]

We don't need to nolynch.

[Creature]

zakk/projectmatt/egg/creature/magnaofillusion

that's a 60% chance of hitting scum

Shouldn't we try to choose the most obvious/safe option then?

[MagnaofIllusion]

So given the results of the last page I’m satisfied with my initial VCA reading of Project and zakk as scum. Egg seems like someone unable to read his role PM given he is buddying up to Matt.

zakk literally has been angling to see if he can push a mislynch on me over his partner Matt since I called him out today. Notice his backpedal earlier when it didn’t look like there was thread support for my mislynch. Now you get two voices and suddenly – WHAM – zakk is back on the ‘lynch me’ train. If zakk isn’t scum he’s one of the worst Town players I’ve ever come across who isn’t a VI.

Lol, this looks like a lame excuse to not provide content. How are you guys being put in a holding pattern by me needing 24 hours to post content? We have 8 days until the deadline. It's an incredibly stupid idea to lynch so soon, even if we had a confirmed mafia. The idea is that more discussion leads to a lot more stuff to analyze/better reads.

Scum not reading the thread. I’ve already posted tons of scum-hunting content today. Who I think is scum is absolutely clear and concisely presented. Yet Matt is looking for things he thinks he can portray as scummy as opposed to actually scum-hunting.

The last part is “Don’t lynch me we have time for my partners to engineer a counter-wagon to save my scummy ass”

The scum-team is still Liger, Magna, and Egg, because my townread on Zakk hasn't waivered.

And if you had any doubts of Matt as scum – here is the smoking gun. The scum team contains Liger and myself. His theory is that scum had TWO neighbors of 4 to start the game. His Town read on zakk with no actual reasoning behind it seals it for me.

VOTE: ProjectMatt

bc i'm town.

Nope but thanks for trying.

1. given magna's relative inactivity throughout the game and now his intense activity whenever he's threatened/challenged
2. given magna's hard-ass push on shaziro yesterday with the epically awesome case that was so good it just made me say "me too"
3. given magna's pushing on me as scum now when for the ENTIRE REST OF THE GAME he has just been calling me crazy/stupid
4. given magna's title

1. I’m hardly inactive and your attempts to portray that I am comes from scum.

My post count – 150
Liger’s + Creature’s? 88 (and 25% of that is Creature since replacing in). Matt’s? 87 Egg’s? 114

Yup, scum OMGUSing and stretching for anything they think they can use to paint me as scum.

2. The good point here is your jump on at the last minute – scum wanted to keep the Serial Killer around to kill confirmed Town and make the game a lock loss for Town. You hemmed and hawed trying to giveShaz every chance to escape the noose. And then when you knew it was inevitable hammered so you didn’t get painted as obv-scum. And now you are trying to use the lynch of a Serial Killer as a scum-tell. So obviously scummy.

3. Look, it’s OMGUS.

4. Scum tell 101. zakk is absolutely scum as the only people who ever bring this up are scum who are desperate to find things they think they can paint as scummy.

It could not be more clear.

[cytheflyguy]

OK, can we not vote PM just yet??

Imma try to do some town stuff after class today, but can we just not right now???

Today's supposed to be about finding the other scum, and we're doing a good job, but we can't end it yet.

[Titus]

zakk/projectmatt/egg/creature/magnaofillusion

that's a 60% chance of hitting scum

Shouldn't we try to choose the most obvious/safe option then?

When the lynchpool agrees on itself, that's a suggested problem.

Pretty sure the proper play is lynch pM, lynch Magna, and then have the last two towns try to agree on who to lynch in Egg/Zakk.

[zakk]

zakk/projectmatt/egg/creature/magnaofillusion

that's a 60% chance of hitting scum

Shouldn't we try to choose the most obvious/safe option then?

When the lynchpool agrees on itself, that's a suggested problem.

Pretty sure the proper play is lynch pM, lynch Magna, and then have the last two towns try to agree on who to lynch in Egg/Zakk.

I don't suppose me agreeing with this will help lol... But I do agree!

Intent to vote/hammer pmatt...

After you, Titus !

[Titus]

I'm not taking 3 hours to color up what my vca already knows.

Zakk may be scum because we agree.

VOTE: PM[/vote\

[Titus]

VOTE: PM

[cytheflyguy]

Pitty, I wanted to hammer, but Zakk called it first :/

If I survive, I call next hammer~

[Titus]

Conftown has hammer if contested lynch. Always.

Unfortunately, you will likely die because conftown and I will live because of my uncertainty.

[cytheflyguy]

Shit than. Sorry Zakk :T

STOP! Hammer time!

VOTE: ProjectMatt

[Nahdia]

good luck guys

[Nahdia]

(assuming the game didn't just end)

[SirCakez]

Votecount 5.2

The Glowworm Caves in New Zealand!

projectmatt (5) - Nahdia, Creature, MagnaOfIllusion, Titus, cytheflyguy

Not voting (3) - projectmatt, Egg, zakk

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch someone.

zakk is V/LA until July 13.

(expired on 2016-07-21 20:08:00) remain until day end.