New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Boem_u_dusi]

Wake if you are town, go fuck yourself.

OK you can go fuck yourself regardless of your alignment.

I rarely ask game moderators to intervene, but I feel you crossed the line with your personal attacks. That goes against the rules in this game, and you're fortunate I have the self-restraint to not give you a proper, verbal backhand.

Angleshooting, are we?

[Airick10]

Transcend, how come I'm suddenly your scumread WITH implosion? That makes no sense to me.
And why are you townreading Mirhawk?

Why exactly are you Scumreading mirhawk?

* D1 vote on shannon with Vedith
* OMGUS vote on Dunnstral today
* he's at L-1 and said nothing so far, possible antispew
* seemed little opportunistic with Performer/kraska wagon
* I don't find him towny

Agree with a lot of this. However, I'd strike out the fact he's at L-1 and hasn't said anything. He hasn't been L-1 for very long. I think it's fair to give it a little bit of time.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Wake88 is getting frustrated because the only way he's getting rid of towns at this point is by mod removing them.

[Transcend]

[quote=boem]* D1 vote on shannon with Vedith
* OMGUS vote on Dunnstral today
* he's at L-1 and said nothing so far, possible antispew
* seemed little opportunistic with Performer/kraska wagon
* I don't find him towny[/quote]

I don't find any of those scummy. Your case on him sounds like shit and an attempt of getting an easy scapegoat mislynch.

You've been super opportunistic on any lynch that's gained momentum. For instance, Sickofitnumbers, and you extremely awkwardly pushed on that lynch.

[Titus]

Wake if you are town, go fuck yourself.

You're not swaying anyone.

He's got me. I like uncle boem.

[podoboq]

For what it matters, I also believe Boem has been an unrepentant asshole to people this game. There's a certain level at which it stops being sportsmanlike, and becomes just inappropriate, and several players have crossed that line this game.

It's made this game a real fun one to continue playing, and makes me excited to contribute my own thoughts and reads!

[Transcend]

then make some reads dude

[Transcend]

podoboq you've gone down in my books (not to scum because you had a solid towntell) please make me REDEEM that hard towntell on you

[Zachstralkita]

For what it matters, I also believe Boem has been an unrepentant asshole to people this game. There's a certain level at which it stops being sportsmanlike, and becomes just inappropriate, and several players have crossed that line this game.

It's made this game a real fun one to continue playing, and makes me excited to contribute my own thoughts and reads!

He's been pretty tactful in my eyes.




A little bit of go fuck yourselves shouldn't hurt anyone. If we're going to play the modkill game then Vedith should have been the prime contender....

[podoboq]

then make some reads dude

You seem to have misread my post. I'm being sarcastic about enjoying this game and contributing to it.

I have contributed reads. If you really want, I'll make a tiered readslist like a few others have done recently, but I entirely expect people to ignore it, as they've ignored all of my reads so far.

Boem and Titus are still my heaviest scumreads. I'm kinda null on Mirhawk, altogether. I've played with him before, and he's more absent in this game, but otherwise he seems to be playing essentially the same as last time, where we were town together.

[podoboq]

A little bit of go fuck yourselves shouldn't hurt anyone. If we're going to play the modkill game then Vedith should have been the prime contender....

I'm not saying we should be modkilling people for being unfairly dickish. I'm just saying that whenever Wake is transparent and open about his reads and opinions, people call him stupid and tell him to fuck off, even though his reads are justified and fair. It's either townies being unnecessarily cruel, or scum trying to make this game so unfun that players with good reads decide to leave.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I got too carried away, I apologize to everyone. That's why you don't skip your meds

[Boem_u_dusi]

Not really on meds though, I'm just an asshole sometimes.

[Boem_u_dusi]

A little bit of go fuck yourselves shouldn't hurt anyone. If we're going to play the modkill game then Vedith should have been the prime contender....

I'm not saying we should be modkilling people for being unfairly dickish. I'm just saying that whenever Wake is transparent and open about his reads and opinions, people call him stupid and tell him to fuck off, even though his reads are justified and fair. It's either townies being unnecessarily cruel, or scum trying to make this game so unfun that

players with good reads

decide to leave.

[Transcend]

if i were mod this game i wouldn't have modkilled anywhere or even given a warning.

the game is supposed to be aggressive. heated conversation is to be expected.

[kraska77]

Fk u all

[Boem_u_dusi]

Looking at Wake/Titus interactions I'd say it's close to impossible that Wake is town if Titus is also town. Other scenarios are possible.

I can't see either of them getting roped today however.

You'd better explain that Boem, because now you've just reignited my interest in this fucking game.

Both you and Titus have different tone in D2. Titus feels more relaxed and you seem kinda agitated. I see no reason why you should feel agitated because town is in a good spot. Not throwing accusations yet because it's entirely possible that's just some RL stuff or different mood, but we'll see. Regarding your interaction with Titus, I already explained it D1. Several other players expressed similar thougths too if I remember correctly.

And what's up with your vote on me? That's useless, I'm not going today.

I'm agitated because I have to work with certain players who inevitably piss me off, whether intentional or not: that's just the nature of the game and it's not inherently their fault unless they purposely try to behave like dicks. I feel like I've provided a lot in this game and tried pushing for the lynches I want but it falls on deaf ears, and it's annoying because I've had the same thing happen in the past AND I WAS RIGHT! I remember pushing like Hell against certain players in a large game early on and even though I was dead right on the money I just couldn't collect anyone's ears, and it was only after I was dead and it was later in the game did certain people start to come around. It's frustrating when experience has HONED your gut instincts to a sharp-ass razor blade to the point where you feel you can trust your gut better, but it doesn't matter because you suck at persuading people. I'm good at stirring up the waters to catch fish and damned FINE at going for the jugular, but God help me I suck at persuading people and it's infuriating, especially when you know you're right but some people are stubborn and just won't listen. I'm also in four games and stretched so thin that I practically have to pop an Adderall XR and guzzle a pot of coffee just to muster up the energy to get into a game, and only one at a time. I don't know how these fuckers do it when they're in 4+ games and going on and on, like how the fuck do you have time for a social life and school and work? The game's also so Goddamn fucking big and convoluted and twisted that I don't know where the fuck to begin or how to get back in and start unwinding this big fucking mess, like holy fuck I need a Valium and a kilo of pot to do it too.

As Town I get real fucking PISSED OFF at times.

I guess we have something in common.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Fk u all

That's the spirit!

[Zachstralkita]

Boem and Titus are still my heaviest scumreads.

please lord, this boy needs jesus heal this child help us destroy these demons

A little bit of go fuck yourselves shouldn't hurt anyone. If we're going to play the modkill game then Vedith should have been the prime contender....

I'm not saying we should be modkilling people for being unfairly dickish. I'm just saying that whenever Wake is transparent and open about his reads and opinions, people call him stupid and tell him to fuck off, even though his reads are justified and fair. It's either townies being unnecessarily cruel, or scum trying to make this game so unfun that players with good reads decide to leave.

I just do that to Wake brcause he's campaigning for the lynches of Titus and Dunnstral, which is unfortunate because those names are on my " DO NOT LYNCH AT ALL COSTS " list.

if i were mod this game i wouldn't have modkilled anywhere or even given a warning.

the game is supposed to be aggressive. heated conversation is to be expected.

[Varsoon]

We need to end the day so I can stop getting prods!

[podoboq]

if i were mod this game i wouldn't have modkilled anywhere or even given a warning.

the game is supposed to be aggressive. heated conversation is to be expected.

I agree, but when it's continued, and it is clearly crossing someone's line, it may not be an actionable offense, but it's still tactless. If you're doing it to intentionally tilt them, then it may be good game strategy, but is it really worth it? This is just a game in the end.


Thanks to Boem for apologizing.


For reference, the actual site rule is this:
"Since Mafia is based largely on conflict and psychological manipulation, we are somewhat more tolerant of aggressive and heated posts in-game than in the rest of the forums.

However, game mods will often take action for excessively abusive behavior or slurs, up to and including a force-replacement or modkill.

In certain cases, posters with multiple or severe offenses may receive site-wide punishments from the list moderators, such as temporary or permanent bans from joining or playing games. Please refer to the most recent pages of the Ban/Restrictions Announcements thread for an idea of what behavior crosses the line."
I don't believe that this line has been crossed.

[Zachstralkita]

#3905 is actually the realest post i've ever seen lmfao A1

Wake, I wouldn't be arguing against those lynches if I didn't wholeheartedly believe you were wrong more than you believe you're right

[Zachstralkita]

Okay guys, who wants me to LOLHAMMER?

[Boem_u_dusi]

I need to take up yoga or something.

[Transcend]

Okay guys, who wants me to LOLHAMMER?

me even though i townread mirhawk. i just wanna see if i'm right or wrong about him. he's not in my first tier and i've fosed him before. so i can possibly be wrong here.