Open 647: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Persivul]

that word must seriously offend you because i use it loosely and in my every day speech.

Yes, I hold women in high esteem, and don't think it's a word to toss about casually.

[Persivul]

Some people use "retarded" loosely and in their every day speech, but you'll find that one strikes some nerves here as well.

[Transcend]

i don't use retarded casually

bitch is pretty loose these days though and i'm sure someone else would agree with me

[karnos]

Some people use "retarded" loosely and in their every day speech, but you'll find that one strikes some nerves here as well.

OT:

Spoiler:

my wife HATES that word. One day, I sent her a random email with the subject "tarter sauce" asking if we needed to buy any. She responding asking why I would even ask, and of course her email subject was RE:tarter sauce. I told her I didn't like it when she used that word.

I find it funny, because "retarded" was originally coined because it was considered to be a less offensive term for people who were mentally disabled. It became an offensive word not because it's inherently offensive, but because of what it stood for. Basically, ANY term that is used to describe mentally disabled people, if it comes into common enough usage, will suffer the same problem.

Anyway, you want me to just hammer, is that what you are trying to imply when you say the wagon might fade over a few days? I feel like there are enough people who want to lynch dunnstral that we won't have that problem.

[Persivul]

Anyway, you want me to just hammer, is that what you are trying to imply when you say the wagon might fade over a few days?

Sure, hammer.

I feel like there are enough people who want to lynch dunnstral that we won't have that problem.

Maybe, maybe not. The flip side is, what will we gain by waiting? In the scenario that dunn is scum and his demise is inevitable, all we're going to get out of him and/or his scum buddies is wifom. We have 62 pages of material already. Information is the main point of the game, but there's a point at which you hit information overload and it's too difficult to analyze it all.

[karnos]

I'm considering it. Doing a re-read of his iso. I generally think all self-voters should be lynched as policy, but I want to take my time here.

[MURDERCAT]

changed my mind, and i was only trying to get momentum on dunn to get it off of me since, you know, i have a night action that's usable tonight.

That was to murdercat. Your quotes were spoilered in the MC post I was quoting and I expected them to still be spoilered.

To be clear:

@MURDERCAT

, you're calling for a hammer when you could do so yourself.

Oh cool. Still want to give Ranger a chance to fully read, but

intent

[SirCakez]

Persivul's making sense but he's not doing anything

Dunn gives reads with no explanation. Further, his reads change, sometimes after relatively few posts, and again with no explanation. I've asked him for reasoning on reads in 1355 and 1357 and got no response. I repeated those questions in 1408 and 1409 and got no response. Now he's self-voted. This is all very scummy. Where do you get off saying I'm not doing anything?

Outside of your dunn push you've done little

I'm town
Dunn is town
Chip is town
I'm assuming both of those are town because that would be really dumb gambits

What gambit are you referring to regarding Dunnstral?

I was referring to Karnos's cop claim iirc, not dunn

[karnos]

Dunnstral has been pretty consistent about calling persivul scum. Persivul is calling for a hammer. Tempted to just go ahead and hammer, because it could be very telling either way. Scum persivul would know dunnstral's flip would implicate him, so I am leaning towards town motivation for pushing me to hammer.

Persivul, being shotty's slot, is not obv town from my PoV yet. A scum flip of Dunnstral would really clear things up.

Current wagon:

Dunnstral (6)

: Aneninen, Chip Butty, DixC, PenguinPower, Persivul, Dunnstral

[Transcend]

i kinda think the whole dog thing from d1 makes Dix+Pers on separate teams.

it's a bit of a gamble but i genuinely don't think that dixc would've been that immensely huge of a dick to his partner.

[Transcend]

i mean, karnos

hammers are your specialty

if you remember from our newbie game :PPPP

but i'm not opposed to roping dunn because i've been up and down on him all game and i think others might be the same way and his slot MIGHT be better flipped than alive.

[Transcend]

i'm feeling pretty sure on dunn!town because my 3 primary suspects right now are all on the dunnslot which to me feels like an easy scapegoat lynch right now.

also i'm a bit scared that if dunn flips green, i'm going to get turbo'd regardless of my report tonight the next day.

[karnos]

Why would town dunn self vote?

[Transcend]

perhaps he gave up?

i know both alignments self vote, so self voting isn't alignment indicative to me.

[Persivul]

I'm town
Dunn is town
Chip is town
I'm assuming both of those are town because that would be really dumb gambits

What gambit are you referring to regarding Dunnstral?

I was referring to Karnos's cop claim iirc, not dunn

Huh? How does karnos claiming a cop clear on podo make you assume that dunn is town?

[podoboq]

Dunnstral (6):

Aneninen

,

Chip Butty

,

DixC

,

PenguinPower

,

Persivul

, Dunnstral

This wagon sucks.

[karnos]

Do you think it's likely for all 3 scum to push the same wagon, this early in the game?

[Persivul]

And for town to help them by self-voting?

[karnos]

I'm torn, but I think ultimately the flip will be very useful for sorting.

Consider my intent to wait 48 hours rescinded. Intent to hammer TODAY. If you don't want Dunnstral lynched, unvote immediately.

[SirCakez]

Dunnstral (6):

Aneninen

,

Chip Butty

,

DixC

,

PenguinPower

,

Persivul

, Dunnstral

This wagon sucks.

^

Dunn townflip sinks Pers in my reads even more

[podoboq]

Do you think it's likely for all 3 scum to push the same wagon, this early in the game?

I don't necessarily think they're scum together. They're scumreads. Among the three, one is DEFINITELY scum, and maybe two.

[Persivul]

Dunnstral (6):

Aneninen

,

Chip Butty

,

DixC

,

PenguinPower

,

Persivul

, Dunnstral

This wagon sucks.

^

Dunn townflip sinks Pers in my reads even more

That's bad. A town flip should implicate more passive voters, not someone actively asking for a lynch.

Here's an idea - let's have Trans investigate me.

[karnos]

Thought things over while eating lunch, I'm going to go with my instincts, Dunn is Scum.

VOTE: Dunnstral

[MURDERCAT]

Oh ok.

[Persivul]

Cop can feel free to investigate me. In this setup conftowns are almost as good a guilties.