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[DrippingGoofball]

it is similarly likely that scum would hunt for a hints at a potential Vigilante, which your questions are skirting.

I disagree with this. Scum might vig-hunt in the PT but never out in the open. Instead they try to get the townies on board trying to chase their common SK enemy.

[Eggman]

1.)

Okay so scum team is dragon, crazy and eggman. Thoughts?

So you think the scumteam in a 13-player game would be three people?

I WAS looking for an answer there, although the intent seems to have not come across. Every mod can do things differently, as well, so I wouldn't know the exact ratio of a 13-player game, hence the question.

Would like to revisit this now. Eggman, were you of the opinion that a 13-player game would have a two-player scum team? Did you think there would be multiple scum teams?

I didn't know how many mafiosos would be in this game, since this is my first game of this size. While I was writing that post, I forgot about the 1:3 method, as well.

4.)

Eggman, could you summarize your case on Smithereens?

1. I didn't like his tone all throughout D1
2. Tunnels Creature and I while the rest of us go for a Crabman / atm lynch
3.

I don't pay attention to my posts Dragon, if you read on you'll see that's why I lean town on Rob. He doesn't do it either. However, someone is wrong on the internet and it's my destiny to correct them.

He later says that that's a towntell, as town should be making bold statements and not caring about contradictions. But from experience, contradictions do not a living townie make.
4. (To me, at least, it feels like) he talks about theory as much as, if not more than, the actual game
5. MM4's defense seems very much like one of the scum variety
6. Spends the entire day arguing on why we should NOT lynch Crabman, then flips his vote to Crabman at the end for the hell of it

Since DG replaced in, I'll remain suspicious of that slot, but I'll try that strategy of "finding a mafioso, then finding his buddy".

FoS: Dragon, Vote: MM4

I don't think there's an SK. It's more probable, to me, that there's a vig who felt slighted by Robb and killed him for that, but later found out he dun goofed.

[Creature]

DGB's lacking content.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB's lacking content.

Pffffffffffffff I replaced yesterday

[petroleumjelly]

1.)

Dragon of the West, your thoughts on Smithereens/DrippingGoofball?

2.)

Dragon of the West, why did you not attempt to chat with Robbnva during Night One? You went so far as to try to get his attention in the middle of Day One, and I would think you would have more to say after the crazycrabman lynch and flip.

3.)

Eggman, why did you vote for crazycrabman on Day One while offering up one of yourself and Creature on Day Two?

So, based on what I've seen of other people's opinions, it seems that you consider Creature to mutually be scum with either Crabman or me.
VOTE: Crabman,

FoS: Smithereens (un-FoS Crabman)

I propose lynching Crabman today, seeing how he flips, and if he's town lynch me or Creature tomorrow.
Because I don't get the cases on Infinity and Dragon, which also (to me) seem a little OMGUS-y (didn't Infinity call out DotW in the first place?)

Based on your Day One posting your top scumread was Smithereens (and I see that is apparently still true based on your recent vote), so I don't understand why you would resort to a sort of 'gambit' offering like that.

4.)

Eggman, in explaining your case on Smithereens you said:

5. MM4's defense seems very much like one of the scum variety

Could you explain this?

[Dragon of the West]

1.)

Dragon of the West, your thoughts on Smithereens/DrippingGoofball?

2.)

Dragon of the West, why did you not attempt to chat with Robbnva during Night One? You went so far as to try to get his attention in the middle of Day One, and I would think you would have more to say after the crazycrabman lynch and flip.

3.)

Eggman, why did you vote for crazycrabman on Day One while offering up one of yourself and Creature on Day Two?

So, based on what I've seen of other people's opinions, it seems that you consider Creature to mutually be scum with either Crabman or me.
VOTE: Crabman,

FoS: Smithereens (un-FoS Crabman)

I propose lynching Crabman today, seeing how he flips, and if he's town lynch me or Creature tomorrow.
Because I don't get the cases on Infinity and Dragon, which also (to me) seem a little OMGUS-y (didn't Infinity call out DotW in the first place?)

Based on your Day One posting your top scumread was Smithereens (and I see that is apparently still true based on your recent vote), so I don't understand why you would resort to a sort of 'gambit' offering like that.

4.)

Eggman, in explaining your case on Smithereens you said:

5. MM4's defense seems very much like one of the scum variety

Could you explain this?

If there is an SK, I think smithereens would be one of the top suspects for it. Now that he's replaced out, I'm going to keep that impression until DGB posts more content. I haven't seen much of substance since the replacement.
To answer your question about the neighborhood, it's because robb seemed disinterested in discussing anything with me after that first conversation. Also, I didn't feel comfortable with it just being robb and I. I was seriously concerned about a possible scum lurker hiding in the neighborhood getting info about our reads and using that to their advantage. I think Robb felt that way too if you read some of his thoughts on the neighborhood

[Derek12]

@DoTW

: What are you current thoughts on MM4 and Eggman?

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[01]

DrippingGoofball

[02]

Creature

[03]

MarioManiac4

[04] Robbnva † -

town

- role cop neighbour - killed night 1

[05] Dwlee99 † -

town

- vanilla - killed night 1

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petroleumjelly

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Dragon of the West

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Derek12

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Infinity 324

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F-oh-ex

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Eggman

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atm487

[13] crazycrabman † -

town

- vanilla - lynched day 1

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Day 1

Night 1

Day 2

Spoiler: V/LA

Infinity 324

- 10 July - 16 July

Deadline is

28-07-2016 00:00:00 CEST

((expired on 2016-07-28 00:00:00)).

[Eggman]

3.)

Eggman, why did you vote for crazycrabman on Day One while offering up one of yourself and Creature on Day Two?

So, based on what I've seen of other people's opinions, it seems that you consider Creature to mutually be scum with either Crabman or me.
VOTE: Crabman,

FoS: Smithereens (un-FoS Crabman)

I propose lynching Crabman today, seeing how he flips, and if he's town lynch me or Creature tomorrow.
Because I don't get the cases on Infinity and Dragon, which also (to me) seem a little OMGUS-y (didn't Infinity call out DotW in the first place?)

Based on your Day One posting your top scumread was Smithereens (and I see that is apparently still true based on your recent vote), so I don't understand why you would resort to a sort of 'gambit' offering like that.

because I felt that as a town we were stuck on me and Creature, I wanted to move us to Crabman and MM4, so we could come back to Creature and I the next day.

4.)

Eggman, in explaining your case on Smithereens you said:

5. MM4's defense seems very much like one of the scum variety

Could you explain this?

he puts smithereens first, especially saying "nothing here to note" when a few of us have noticed things there. To me it feels like a mafioso making an attempt to defend his buddy.

[DrippingGoofball]

Placeholder reads... I'm only on page 10.

TOWN

Smithereens < DGB
Creature
Dragon of the West

MKAY

F-oh-ex
Derek12
Eggman
petroleumjelly < stelo
Infinity 324 < Akigoku

SCUM

atm487
crazycrabman
MarioManiac

[DrippingGoofball]

I think crab & Mario are scum together.

Maybe with atm or Derek

[DrippingGoofball]

And, seriously? Two people are voting Creature???

VOTE: crabman

[Creature]

crabman was lynched D1.

[F-oh-ex]

Look who's been paying attention...
Derek, are your ISOs coming along?

[Dragon of the West]

@DoTW

: What are you current thoughts on MM4 and Eggman?

MM4 was suspicious for me day one because of the way he was posting just enough not to get prodded. The posts he did make didn't feel like they were town AI so he still remains a scumlean. I'd like to see more from him today now that we've had a flip and two NK's. Depending on his play day 2, I could see him swinging either way.
Let me ISO Eggman and get back to you in a bit

[DrippingGoofball]

crabman was lynched D1.

LOL

Good job

[DrippingGoofball]

Well then

VOTE: Mario

[Dragon of the West]

After the ISO, I feel pretty comfortable with Eggman sitting as a town lean. After that early wagon on him I feel like his play has been town especially from the depth of his reads and attempts to find links. He's consistent with his suspicions and his thought process feels genuine

[Creature]

What makes me doubt Mario is scum is this:

MM4

Why aren't you voting your counterwagon?

Because crab could be a PR, and I doubt people are going to reconsider their reads on me.

It doesn't look like he wanted to tie himself to crab, it looks like he had a genuine reason to get lynched over crab, which scum wouldn't do it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah... when I read that I thought they were scum together... but he flipped town.

[petroleumjelly]

Vote: DrippingGoofball

[DrippingGoofball]

PJ you always manage to convince yourself I am scum and you are always wrong.

You're wrong again.

[Creature]

PJ you always manage to convince yourself I am scum and you are always wrong.

You're wrong again.

The way you're treating him as town makes me believe you're the one wrong here.

[DrippingGoofball]

LOL

I admit I have left PJ as "unread" and have skipped all his posts. We have a history of getting into it as

t vs t

in ways that lose the game for us both.

[petroleumjelly]

PJ you always manage to convince yourself I am scum and you are always wrong.

You're wrong again.

Even now I do not believe you have read the whole game. But you are acting like you have.