Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[Killthestory]

I don't have a problem with your playstyle. I have a problem with you.

Fate and Kuribo are enjoyable people to play with. You are not. This is very simple.

[Kcdaspot]

[Killthestory]

Not to be mean or anything, but don't use basic out of game stuff as something AI. Because I posted something about being nice to all people regardless of their playstyle doesn't mean you have to use that as me getting towncred or anything.

[Kcdaspot]

everything posted is part of the game buddy. why you trying to appeal like that brah?

[Killthestory]

And this is exactly why I want to ignore you. You're not even doing good with your reads when you do shit like that, and it doesn't make you any more obvious town.

[Kcdaspot]

OOOOOHHHH trying to further discredit the guy who has him read as scum! IT'S A BOLD MOVE COTTON LETS SEE IF IT WORKS.

[Killthestory]

I'm pretty sure this forum has got to have some sort of foe option

[Killthestory]

Dammit, it doesn't ignore the player.

I might just build my own code that will help me ignore you.

[Luna Fox]

It doesnt ignore them in mafia games, it does ignore them everywhere else.

[Kcdaspot]

wont work in game dude. and out of game im a good guy, trust.

im only this way to obvscum

keep trying to make me insignificant, all its doing is digging you deeper.

[Transcend]

Alright so i skimmed this game a bit at work. I'll answer queries when i get home. However most likely either I'm gonna sub out our kcda (sp?) is going to. I'm not gonna tolerate playing with someone with that obnoxious posting style.

[Killthestory]

I'm not digging anywhere because I'm clearly obvious town.

Like, maybe I'd like you a little if you had correct reads.

But you don't.

All of your reads are terrible.

[Luna Fox]

I'm way too nice to be annoyed by his playstyle tbh.
But toxic environments lead to stuff like 260, but at this point not much can be done other than ask the mod to do something about it or replace out.

Now the issue is that we're talking about his toxicity instead of his alignment, and that's bad.

[Killthestory]

clearly town

[Kcdaspot]

I'm way too nice to be annoyed by his playstyle tbh.
But toxic environments lead to stuff like 260, but at this point not much can be done other than ask the mod to do something about it or replace out.

Now the issue is that we're talking about his toxicity instead of his alignment, and that's bad.

You are a lovely person and i hope good things happen to you in you life.

bumped off of the scumlist right there.

[Kcdaspot]

All of your reads are terrible.

this is my problem with you you're not attacking my arguement you're just lashing out at me.

That WHOLE SEQUENCE solidifies you as scum, at no point have you once tried to refute or explain your actions. you just outright react and ad homed me.

you're getting lynched. today.

[Killthestory]

You're arguments are falling inwards. I'm not attacking you. I'm attacking your reads which is your argument. Your argument is literally, "yur scum this is my playstyle ur scum."

Then you bump Luna off the scumlist for being a good person? Yeah, alright, sure.

No, I'm not getting lynched.

[Tenshii]

I still don't get why Karnos is scum. Please don't lynch him when we're like only 2 days into it.

VOTE: karnos for being the first one to post after my introduction!

Nah. This comes off as trying to hop on a bandwagon without trying to form an actual reason as to why Karnos to scum. Also why did you post 185?
VOTE: PhantomCobalt

with that based on what ive seen its karnos and KTL for the scumteam secondary scummy reads on luna and GT (gut mainly)
ANNNNNNND

VOTE: KTS

We real now

pedit: now that you mention that and transcend is not far off of making the list either.

How did you get these reads?

POST MORE TENSHII GODDANG

SUP WIT IT

more anti town then a naked vote near page 2, a call for a quicklynch on page 5 and policy lynch on yours truly on this page?

if you think trying fool you go ahead and vote me but im not gonna let KTL live outside D1. i can settle for a karnos lynch DEPENDING ON THE VC, MOD.

The former two came off as trying to reaction test. The latter does seem bad though. I also hate how KTS keeps saying "I'm obv town" as if it's helpful towards helping him get read.

[Killthestory]

I'm obv town

[tojam2]

@kcdaspot, you have 2 prods remaining
This VC is likely to be full of errors as my MS Excel crashed part way through, please alert me!

VC Day 1 - 4

Karnos L-2 - Io, Thor665,PhantomCobalt, gigabyte
Thor665 L-3 - Killthestory, Transcend, Rosske
Killthestory L-5 - kcdaspot

(expired on 2016-07-29 16:30:00)

[Rosske]

weird that everyones suddenly concerned about niceness in mafia....last time I checked pot-stirring was a surefire way to agitate scum into revealing themselves. Making people emotional makes them less calculated. Making them less calculated makes them more likely to slip and reveal their alignment. It's a good thing. And if we all say nothing personal and hug after the game's over, no harm done, right? Look at how KTS is reacting right now, there's a lot there.

VOTE: killthestory

[Killthestory]

lol no that's stupid

People don't 'slip' because they get angry. People slip under a certain condition that can't be premeditated or calculated because mafia is a game all about open perspectives and non-linear thinking.

[Thor665]

1- Dodging what? You asked a question, I answered. I am not going to point by point respond to every line in your post, if there is one line in particular you really want me to answer, let me know and I will.

I asked a question - you inserted an answer that contained logic I had claimed the opposite of using - I clarified that for you and asked you the question again - you then defended your bad insertion without answering the question.

So to ask the question again;

Let's presume for a moment that you are absolutely correct and this is *exactly* how I see myself.
What presumes that I have a scum read at that stage of the game?
Because that's all that doesn't need to happen for this case to fall apart. Maybe I got my magical super accurate town read and haven't yet got a scum read - and, presto, my vote makes perfect sense even within the strange world of Mystic Thor the Wonderous Seer.

Do you have a rejoinder?

2- Your post was certainly open to interpretation. You said you only had a town read on giga. The question is WHY. At least 4 players had scum reads, and were voting on them outside of RVS AFAICT. You are apparently bad at hunting scum, otherwise you would at least be on par with those other 4 players. The fact you didn't have a scum read when several other players did seems to indicate that.

It was top of page 3 of the game - I had developed a town read, other people had developed scum reads; I don't see the evidence to suggest that makes me slow in developing reads, and even if I am slow in developing reads, I don't see how that makes me scummy.

3- You mean your fake change of heart, mid post? If you changed your mind before hitting submit, you know you can go back and edit the start of your post. I find that posting style to be weird, like you are trying too hard to show you are working from a town thought process. And it was an attack on giga, you, and every non-active player in the game, and players in prior games who skipped out on the questionnaire. Your very selective interpretation that it was only about you is plainly wrong.

Since I had other posts defending you, I didn't exactly *need* to show that I had been defending you, it was part of an ongoing conversation.
And, yes, i see you agreeing with me here about my understanding of your claimed beliefs.

Can you just explain to me what the scum motivation would be to "attack you" without using your name, without voting you, and while questioning a player other than you?

That is called attacking someone without voting them - which is a very common scum tactic to avoid VCA and to stay off town wagons.
Can you explain the town strategy of attacking someone while *not* being up front about it?

and the top of page 9 and THOR IS TOWN YHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS PRAISE THE aLL MIGHTY

I'm not the proud owner of a post at either the top of 9 nor the bottom of 8 - what changed your read on me from ranting about how I looked like I was pulling a scum maneuver to having me as a town read as I didn't have a post near there, and also don't think I've changed my style at any point this game?

Alright so i skimmed this game a bit at work. I'll answer queries when i get home. However most likely either I'm gonna sub out our kcda (sp?) is going to. I'm not gonna tolerate playing with someone with that obnoxious posting style.

If you opt to stay can you clarify for me whether you are intentionally dodging my question to you about how my Post 64 was scummy?
You've done it twice now - I'd love it if you'd say it was intentional so I could stop reminding you.
Or you could answer it, if you really are just missing the question.

I still don't get why Karnos is scum. Please don't lynch him when we're like only 2 days into it.

Do you not understand the case on him, or do you understand the case and disagree with it?

[tojam2]

@Kcdaspot, you're late to the game, show some respect, I can't be online 24 hours a day 7 days a week providing VCs for you.

See 238 and 247

Also, keep posts subject related and friendly (in a competitive way, sure I want you to attack the quotes, but not KTS, and KTS, likewise, don't attack him, just ignore him completely if you have to), see 250-255.

@KTS: There is a foe option on peoples profiles.

I don't want to modkill in my first game

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[Transcend]

thor-- i work a lot. sorry if my attention is not undivided towards this game.

your 64 looks bad because it looks like a shitty excuse to vote karnos. plain and simple.

"well i townread you so the person you vote is mafia"

i've had several townreads before when playing this game that couldn't find scum if it meant their life depended on it. have you played with giga before? do you know that she's good at scumhunting? what if she's the most abysmal scumhunter ever....