Open 642 - The Woodshed - Game Over

[Xkfyu]

Shit.

UNVOTE: Ranger

Hold up.

I missed this in my skim through, but what I said about Shotty also applies to Ranger in 216 and 217.

[mhsmith0]

Hmm. I guess I'll re read shotty too then. The post scum claim tone seemed celebratory in a fairly honest manner (though not as blatant as kappy iirc), but I'll go back and dig.

Ps what do you think of rangers recent push on me? It still feels ill to me; are you seeing something different from that specifically?

[Xkfyu]

In post 243, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
I didn't need anything else. That post alone is why I death tunneled you. You gave your self away man.

Same with this one. And it's about IV's reply to his terrible post 71 where I fully agreed with IV's reply to him. His reason was "you're asking others for reads instead of trying to solve" which was 1) demonstrably false and 2) not anything in any game where on page 3 you'd genuinely believe someone "gave themselves away." it's just a fake and bad reason to justify a tunnel on someone

The strenth of Shotty's reasons is completely irrelevant. It is painfully clear that Shotty believed that he had caught scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Dgb? U meant replacing shotty? If so can you explain why you had shotty as a stronger town read than kappy? I felt like the naked celebratory tone from kappy post IV fake scum claim was especially town indicative (which is why I'm not much worried about panther right now); why do you think otherwise?

uh wut

[mhsmith0]

That was @ranger re: 1031

[PantherPunt]

This looks like an extremely forced attempt to townslip. It's like you're posting this for us to see, not for yourself. If you were town you most likely would've just checked before you posted.

I have a lot more thoughts, but I am out of time for now.

Ah, it was IV. Guess he couldn't call shotty for it when he was in the middle of a scumclaim gambit

[PantherPunt]

In post 243, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
I didn't need anything else. That post alone is why I death tunneled you. You gave your self away man.

Same with this one. And it's about IV's reply to his terrible post 71 where I fully agreed with IV's reply to him. His reason was "you're asking others for reads instead of trying to solve" which was 1) demonstrably false and 2) not anything in any game where on page 3 you'd genuinely believe someone "gave themselves away." it's just a fake and bad reason to justify a tunnel on someone

The strenth of Shotty's reasons is completely irrelevant. It is painfully clear that Shotty believed that he had caught scum.

Disagree. And I think that this post was the only post that looked potentially more fake

Alpaca's awakward "this is a long twilight" pinged me out to. Like he was fearful of saying anything about the situation

[PantherPunt]

Speaking of Alpaca's awkward avoidance of comment...I want to know if anyone else was on MS at the time but chose to abstain from saying anything at all. Sit tight

[Xkfyu]

In post 243, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
I didn't need anything else. That post alone is why I death tunneled you. You gave your self away man.

Same with this one. And it's about IV's reply to his terrible post 71 where I fully agreed with IV's reply to him. His reason was "you're asking others for reads instead of trying to solve" which was 1) demonstrably false and 2) not anything in any game where on page 3 you'd genuinely believe someone "gave themselves away." it's just a fake and bad reason to justify a tunnel on someone

The strenth of Shotty's reasons is completely irrelevant. It is painfully clear that Shotty believed that he had caught scum.

Disagree. And I think that this post was the only post that looked potentially more fake

Alpaca's awakward "this is a long twilight" pinged me out to. Like he was fearful of saying anything about the situation

I don't really know what else to say then. It's very obvious to me.

We do agree on Alpaca's awkwardness though.

[PantherPunt]

So every single player posted during twilight except KAAG, but he hasn't posted on MS as a whole in nearly 7 weeks

interestingly, Alexcellent came in and posted a prodge which he simultaneously posted in n1713

however, he came back into n1713 and posted 5 times between 1:19PM and 3:05PM, then once more again at 10:21PM

all during the time this game was in twilight before the flip was posted at 11:04PM

that's a major ping..going to relook at his posts bc I had him as villagy on my initial read through the day

[DrippingGoofball]

Good catch

[innocentvillager]

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

[Xkfyu]

Well, I won't be voting DGB, Panther, BTD, or Ranger for the rest of the day. So, that only leaves Alpaca, smith, and Titus.

I don't have any problems with smith's posts, so it's really down to Alpaca and Titus, for me, today.

Panther's point about Alex is good, and I didn't see anything from Touka, or Titus that impressed me. So, I think that slot is a good lynch.

VOTE: Titus

[Xkfyu]

Yeah, what IV said.

[Titus]

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

That lynch pool is terrible.

[Titus]

Well, I won't be voting DGB, Panther, BTD, or Ranger for the rest of the day. So, that only leaves Alpaca, smith, and Titus.

I don't have any problems with smith's posts, so it's really down to Alpaca and Titus, for me, today.

Panther's point about Alex is good, and I didn't see anything from Touka, or Titus that impressed me. So, I think that slot is a good lynch.

VOTE: Titus

Why is there no DGB comment in here?

[Xkfyu]

Well, I won't be voting DGB, Panther, BTD, or Ranger for the rest of the day. So, that only leaves Alpaca, smith, and Titus.

I don't have any problems with smith's posts, so it's really down to Alpaca and Titus, for me, today.

Panther's point about Alex is good, and I didn't see anything from Touka, or Titus that impressed me. So, I think that slot is a good lynch.

VOTE: Titus

Why is there no DGB comment in here?

There is. At the beginning.

[mhsmith0]

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

So this is everyone OFF the d1 lynch wagon, plus Titus. The implication here is that you think your wagon was righteous /primarily town driven. Why do you think this is the case?

[DrippingGoofball]

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

So this is everyone OFF the d1 lynch wagon, plus Titus. The implication here is that you think your wagon was righteous /primarily town driven. Why do you think this is the case?

I would expect scum on a d1 lynch wagon - especially if the lynch was on scum LOL

[mhsmith0]

There are circumstances where all wolves will be off a winning wagon. But I'm curious why anyone would think this game particularly applied. IMO that wagon was sufficiently bad that two wolves on seems much likelier than two wolves off.

Ps fake scum claim aside, it was on town

[innocentvillager]

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

That lynch pool is terrible.

Lmao

I only say this because Shotty and Kappy looked super town for me, Ranger is also probably town, and BTD has more or less redeemed himself.

Also, to clarify, I think we should lynch specifically in that descending order. Titus, nothing really against you, but I really disliked your predecessor's play.

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

So this is everyone OFF the d1 lynch wagon, plus Titus. The implication here is that you think your wagon was righteous /primarily town driven. Why do you think this is the case?

To be fair, my top scumread is Alexcellent. It would take me some time to explain truly why, but based on gut Alexcellent just felt like pure scumplay. So I think him as scum on my wagon is pretty likely.

I don't think it was forced to the point where everyone was against it, I feel like the only one really against my lynch D1 was M&M. So I think one scum could've easily stayed off it.

[innocentvillager]

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

So this is everyone OFF the d1 lynch wagon, plus Titus. The implication here is that you think your wagon was righteous /primarily town driven. Why do you think this is the case?

I would expect scum on a d1 lynch wagon - especially if the lynch was on scum LOL

Lmfao what??? Townslip??? Did DGB think I was scum?

I think we should lynch in {Titus, Alpaca, Xkfyu, Smith}

So this is everyone OFF the d1 lynch wagon, plus Titus. The implication here is that you think your wagon was righteous /primarily town driven. Why do you think this is the case?

IMO that wagon was sufficiently bad

I mean just because you and I think it was bad doesn't mean town thought it was bad. KAAG(your slot) was lurking hardcore, so was Alpaca, and M/M adamantly defended me. So no real resistance to my wagon.

[innocentvillager]

V/LA until Friday

[mhsmith0]

It's not the lack of resistance to the wagon that made it bad. It's the fact that basically all of the votes/cases were bad.

[Titus]

Vote count 2.11

mhsmith0 - (2) Ranger, BTD6_maker
BTD6_maker - (2) PantherPunt, Town Mafioso
Ranger - (2) mhsmith0, DrippingGoofball

Not Voting - (2) AlpacaAlpaca, Titus

With 8 eligible to vote, is takes 5 to lynch.

Still seeking replacement for Town Mafioso.

Votecount updated to reflect replacements.

Playerlist in the fist post has been updated as well.

Corrected VC

Most likely there's a scum in here or scum are off these wagons entirely.