New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[implosion]

Why exactly do you think the checks were shannon and AGar?

{Zach, Dunn, Me, Trans, Varsoon, Implosion, Kraska}

Who is left.

[kraska77]

EH...WHY IS SHANNON CONFIRMED TOWN? WE DONT KNOW WHO BEEBOY CHECKED AND TBH HER DAY 4 WAS KINDA WEIRD, SHE'S TOWN PROBABLY THO
THE QUESTION IS WHO WAS BEEBOY MOST LIKELY TO CHECK ON NIGHT 3?

[implosion]

I think the checks were most likely Varsoon and myself, but that's literally from just looking at the first post of each day.

Really at this point there is probably 1 scum left so we just sit here and wait for Dunnstral and a50 to claim and then we break the game wide open.

[Boem_u_dusi]

@implosion

AGar and Shannon are town

I guess those were the checks.

[implosion]

I feel like he would put his two confirmed-town checks in the first list of players rather than doing what appears to be PoE on them

[kraska77]

@POST 5352 DOUBT IT. NEITHER WAS A PERSON OF INTEREST TO THE MAJORITY OF PLAYERS ON DAYS 1 TO 3

[Boem_u_dusi]

I feel like he would put his two confirmed-town checks in the first list of players rather than doing what appears to be PoE on them

Why did he isolate AGar and shannon then and said they were town?

[implosion]

kraska can you actually please stop capslocking.

And explain why airick's d1 implies AGar is town. All i see from a glance is a jump from Varsoon to AGar when there was no AGar wagon and there's no reason that couldn't be distancing.

[Boem_u_dusi]

@POST 5352 DOUBT IT. NEITHER WAS A PERSON OF INTEREST TO THE MAJORITY OF PLAYERS ON DAYS 1 TO 3

It doesn't matter who is a person of interest to town. Both AGar and shannon checks make perfect sense because they're likely to survive the night if they are town so the checks aren't wasted.

[implosion]

and boem, it looks like he was going in with the assumption "all of the people in this initial list are town" and then narrowing it down from there by looking at the remaining players and trying to figure out which were likely town.

I think he'd put confirmed-town investigates in the first group. I may be wrong. I'd like to look more indepth at his iso.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Well if it were someone other than my scumread discrediting my reads then I'd give it a second look.

Since that isn't the case, lemme simplify my reads.

{Dunn, Zach, shannon, Almost50}
{kraska, Airick, Wake}
{Mirhawk, podoboq, beeboy}
{Titus, Peregrine}
{Varsoon}
{AGar}
{Boem, implosion}

feels pretty safe to me.

Why is AGar scum?

This also suggests green check for AGar.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Look at his ISO, his first votes are AGar and shannon. It makes sense that he checked them.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I like Shannon and Zach for town btw

[Boem_u_dusi]

Varsoon and AGar need to hug


I am 99% sure I know what Varsoons role is so nah let's not make him claim.

[implosion]

like he said "We will hard lynch the remaining players and win"
before he said that AGar and shannon were town

[kraska77]

ok i turned it off
i agree with the varsoon check. makes sense because he openly trusted him

[implosion]

I like Shannon and Zach for town btw

this post was before night 3... he couldn't have checked them both by now

and his d1-2 are also very consistent with having checked varsoon, as your next quote agrees with as well

[Boem_u_dusi]

like he said "We will hard lynch the remaining players and win"
before he said that AGar and shannon were town

I think he pointed out AGar and shannon deliberately. I don't think you were the check. Varsoon could be though.

[implosion]

I'm certainly not confident that I was the second but I still think AGar is likely scum so :shrug:

Anyway. None of this matters. We need Dunnstral to claim if he shot beeboy, and we need a50 to claim who he jailkept, asap.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I like Shannon and Zach for town btw

this post was before night 3... he couldn't have checked them both by now

and his d1-2 are also very consistent with having checked varsoon, as your next quote agrees with as well

I missed that it was D3. So Varsoon was checked and ... ?

[Boem_u_dusi]

I'm certainly not confident that I was the second but I still think AGar is likely scum so :shrug:

Anyway. None of this matters. We need Dunnstral to claim if he shot beeboy, and we need a50 to claim who he jailkept, asap.

It's probably GG at this point, but I still want to make sure.

[kraska77]

kraska can you actually please stop capslocking.

And explain why airick's d1 implies AGar is town. All i see from a glance is a jump from Varsoon to AGar when there was no AGar wagon and there's no reason that couldn't be distancing.

airick was sort of fence sitting between the titus and vedith wagons at the time when they were happening, then as soon as agar switched from titus to vedith, airick immediately voted him, i find this highly unlikely to be distancing because people regarded as conf town were slowly leaving the titus wagon and joining vedith's at the time or expressing intent to, i doubt airick would put another one of his buddies in hot water when vedith was already at 5 votes and people didnt like his posting

[Boem_u_dusi]

Beeboy kills seems more like a vig shot than NK. I don't see how mafia figured out that he wasn't the miller.

[kraska77]

is full vig an actual thing? or does it normally come with limited shots

[Boem_u_dusi]

is full vig an actual thing? or does it normally come with limited shots

I don't know.

Beeboy was the only kill so I guess jailkeeper protected someone or caught the killer.