Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

Creature · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:28 am

Not sure, but you can give me a name and I'll say what I think.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:31 am

What do you think about mario slot

Creature · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:33 am

I feel his reaction near the deadline was town.

Eggman · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:36 am

Titus and Infinity, I wanted to fully reread Day 1 to refresh myself with the particulars of the Creature lynch. While reading, I found this in F-oh-ex's first post:

In post 105, F-oh-ex wrote:Favourite dessert is neapolitan ice cream btw.

Isn't Neapolitan a mafioso role?
Actually reading now.

Eggman · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:38 am

In post 1555, Titus wrote:Was the NK someone pushing Creature NKed N1?

Also: What does this part of the sentence mean, exactly?

Creature · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:59 am

Egg is still town if you're wondering.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:37 am

I feel like mario's deadline activity could be scum giving up; he seemed to be not very invested in the game no matter his alignment.

Eggman, neapolitan can be a scum or town role.

Creature · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:46 am

Why didn't he push the crab counterwagon?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:15 am

It's possible that he wanted to get towncred, and it's possible he had just given up at the point. It is town points in his favor, I admit.

Eggman · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:16 am

So I read up to page 24, and it seemed that the Creature wagon ended there to be replaced by the Crabman wagon. So here's some thoughts I had on that.

In post 132, Creature wrote:If Smithereens flips scum, it must make Robbnva very town-aligned.

VOTE: Smithereens

In post 161, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 60, Smithereens wrote:There's absolutely no way you're getting a town read from the very first post a person makes in the game. If you could I'd just copy/paste that post everywhere I went as scum and you'd be none the wiser.
Looking ar smithereen's post again this really bothers me. Creature never said that they got a town read from like one post or something, it was based on the pushes people were making across multiple pushes.
VOTE: Smithereens

Creature is the first player to vote for Smithereens / NJAC

In post 174, crazycrabman wrote:Smithereen's posts do seem scummy but two posts isn't enough for me to make a decision on.

Crabman, who would become the mislynch, gets a bad feeling from Smithereens's first two posts but doesn't feel like they're enough to justify a scumread

In post 234, atm487 wrote:OK listen, so I have been inactive lately because I have had alot on my mind and some stuff happened, but listen. I know for a fact creature is town, his posts are very revealing and if he's playing scum, he very good, if not, then he is very good at town too, rooting out the obvious people that have been active, for now, I would like to re-review all the posts and wait a little before voting, because many of us have been active and I am having a hard time deciding who to vote for, my apologies

"I know for a fact"? My "I like your town game, Creature" post is just a roundabout way of saying "I townread you, Creature", but this is the cold hard truth. Scumslip..? Titus, how do you feel about this post from your slot?

In post 237, Dwlee99 wrote:OOC: Who is perturbed by the amazing Derek12 account?

Still not sure about the relationship between you two besides "IRL friends".

In post 277, Creature wrote:VOTE: MarioManiac4

Let's go here, his play here is WAY different than his town play I know.

When I'm at L-1 and claim, Creature moves his vote here to try and get rid of some of my pressure. This is a couple posts before his post where he says "Egg crumbed and I think he's VT"

In post 350, Dragon of the West wrote:OOC: what was that show from the 90's with the guy who would always say "howdy neighbor"? Was that the one with Tim Allen talking to his neighbor over the fence and they never showed his neighbor's face? I've been trying to figure it out all day and it's killing me

In post 405, atm487 wrote:noone gonna hammer the scum?

This also flew over my head: at the time I thought it was just an atm shitpost (no offense meant atm)

In post 458, Dwlee99 wrote:I think creature is the scum here.
VOTE: creature
it seems like creature is attempting to tie himself to egg.

Conftown's thoughts on the matter.

In post 518, F-oh-ex wrote:Crab smells fishy to me

PUNS

In post 565, Robbnva wrote:
In post 557, Dwlee99 wrote:we should lynch crazy
Curious why him over creature?

Dwlee starts the Crabman wagon, Robb objects.

In post 571, Smithereens wrote:Why so many votes on Crazy when there's an objectively sound case on Eggman and Creature..?

Smithereens tries to steer our lynch back to Creature and I...

In post 576, Smithereens wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

I'm thinking Crazy is a counter wagon to relieve pressure off Creature. Atm help lynch this guy. Eggman isn't happening.

then in 5 posts changes his mind about me and only votes Creature.

Gotta go, I'm seeing a show now.

Titus · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:56 am

That's terrible IIoA Eggman.

VOTE: Eggman

Oh and here's my answer. I know for a fact you're scum. :-p

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:57 am

Hmm, I don't think this IIoA is scummy necessarily...how do you know it's not just town rereading?

Titus · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:16 pm

In post 1586, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm, I don't think this IIoA is scummy necessarily...how do you know it's not just town rereading?

Because he draws virtually no conclusions from this "reread". The reread does little to answer my question. Like for instance was the townie that died N1 pushing Creature. It's busywork designed to look like Eggman is doing something, but he really isn't.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:34 pm

The part about busywork is fair, though it's not really fair to say he doesn't draw conclusions since he's not finished yet.

How much of the game have you read? What are your interpretations so far?

Titus · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:13 pm

In post 1588, Infinity 324 wrote:The part about busywork is fair, though it's not really fair to say he doesn't draw conclusions since he's not finished yet.

How much of the game have you read? What are your interpretations so far?

I don't read unless directed to something specific. My interpretation is that Egg is scum and needs to die.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:25 pm

Wait so you didn't read the game, saw one questionable post, and are ready to lynch someone?

cmon titus you're better than this

At least read some of the game....

Titus · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:27 pm

Yup. That's my usual MO.

You want me to read something, point me towards what you find important. I generally don't read anything that no one feels important.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:34 pm

I don't have anything in particular to point you to, but it's hard to take your reads seriously if you haven't read any of the game.

Titus · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:35 pm

In post 1592, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't have anything in particular to point you to, but it's hard to take your reads seriously if you haven't read any of the game.

Here's a tip. I never read Gunslingers either. I just skimmed a couple ISOs.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:54 pm

Mhm, and there it took forever for you to realize who the scum were...

Read the last 5-10 games and get back to me. You can also skim these ISOs
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Right now you're being useless. Your vote may be on scum but it's for a bad reason and no one can read you if you act like this.

Titus · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:11 pm

Nah, I actually caught Kuroi pretty fast.

Dunn however was a false positive.

I'm not reading 5-10 games. I will skim those ISOs though.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:12 pm

5-10 pages* lol

Titus · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:13 pm

I'm leaning town on Dragon but I'd want to see more from him. He promised an ISO of Eggman. I want him to deliver.

Leaning scum on Mario Maniac. He has setup spec but not much useful. That combined with NJAC's opening is a little :/

Dragon of the West · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:40 pm

In post 1560, Derek12 wrote:
@DoTW:

What do you feel about Creature's play today, and more specifically his thoughts on you?

To be honest, didn't really feel comfortable with the flood at the beginning of the day. But I think that might have just been him being eager and worried after seeing 2 nightkills. I do, however, worry about how his reads seem to fly in every direction at some point. They feel like they just change on a whim not only about me but about several others as well. This isn't enough for me to force a wagon on him at the moment but I'm very likely to be open to a creature wagon if anything else develops on him during this day.
For his thoughts on me: If Infinity is town, I wonder if scum!creature would see infinity as a more viable lynch than myself which is why Creature shifted around his reads on us, especially after you saying that either infinity or myself is probably scum. Unfortunately I don't think it's AI enough since town!creature could obviously have just changed reads

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:39 pm

In post 1549, Eggman wrote:I'm not sure who the third mafioso could be, but I'm pretty sure on {DGB, NJAC}.

A question to the more experienced players from a newb: I know the consensus day 1 was that there are 3 Mafia but since it's apparently a multiball or SK exists, can we be still sure of this? I don't think it's a scumslip per se but this post rubs me wrong.

In post 1597, Titus wrote:I'm leaning town on Dragon but I'd want to see more from him. He promised an ISO of Eggman. I want him to deliver.

Leaning scum on Mario Maniac. He has setup spec but not much useful. That combined with NJAC's opening is a little :/

Agree that MM4 was useless-ish but for me his slot is a townread. As requested, I'll direct you to what I think you should read and it's Post 1282