Open 647: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Transcend]

PUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Transcend]

PP in this scenario you do have to realize that if 0 mafia bus, that all 5 town must vote together, and correctly in order to lynch mafia.

[SirCakez]

Who's even voting me right now?

[PenguinPower]

PP in this scenario you do have to realize that if 0 mafia bus, that all 5 town must vote together, and correctly in order to lynch mafia.

Yep. Still want to hear from karnos and Chip before I do anything. Would appreciate more insight from Ranger as well.

[davesaz]

Official Vote Count

SirCakez(2): Persivul, Transcend

Not Voting

(6): karnos, PenguinPower, MURDERCAT, SirCakez, Ranger, Chip Butty

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-08-09 18:00:00)

[karnos]

Sorry for the absence, on vacation and I thought I would have time to check in each night but things didn't work out. I expect to have some time to catch up and post later this evening.

[karnos]

K. Initial read done. I don't have a ton of time to devout to the game right now, but I'll be back on Monday and have my full attention available then.

That said, I am glad to see the sircakez case is finally getting some attention. Lets see a red flip!

VOTE: sircakez

[Transcend]

Someone (murdercat) l-1 him

[Ranger]

Ranger why do you think transcend is scum again?

From posting, this has not been the Transcend I've seen in any past game.
Furthermore, there's a fair amount of analysis supporting such.
Plus...gut.

If it was actually strong, you'd see me voting him right now.
I'm not.

And why didn't cake die?

While his survival is a small point against him, his defense is valid: killing conftown > killing a cop who might never get to use their shot.

[Ranger]

If {karnos, PenguinPower} are scum, I've got very strong doubts that SirCakez would be the scumbuddy. Persivul and Transcend both look

far

more likely, outside chance of Chip Butty.

If they aren't scum, then SirCakez would almost definitely (though not necessarily) be scum, but all the same...

As of this moment, I am not comfortable lynching him.

[MURDERCAT]

Not comfortable lynching cake?

[Ranger]

Not at the moment, no.

Give me time to analyze.

[Transcend]

MY GOD LOOK AT THIS CHEAP ATTEMPT AT NOT LYNCHING SOMEONE SHES AVIDLY SCUMREAD ALL FUCKING GAME

[Persivul]

Yeah, that's pretty blatant. She went from him being her secret scum read, and included in all her lynch pools, to defending him and saying her read wasn't actually strong after all.

[Transcend]

WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING ALL GAME BUT HAS ANYONE LISTENED ROFL

[PenguinPower]

What the hell.

VOTE: SirCakez

L-1

[SirCakez]

You idiots Ranger is nearly conf town and her reads are good and you're ignoring them

[PenguinPower]

You idiots Ranger is nearly conf town and her reads are good and you're ignoring them

She said that if I wasn't scum that you were almost definitely scum. I'm not scum therefore you are almost definitely scum.

[SirCakez]

Since Transcend is scum you're probably scum too. Not hard.

[Ranger]

MY GOD LOOK AT THIS CHEAP ATTEMPT AT NOT LYNCHING SOMEONE SHES AVIDLY SCUMREAD ALL FUCKING GAME

Alternatively, this is mylo, and recklessly voting is something that I constantly am chastising players for so I don't want to be a hypocrite.

If we had a scum flip, the game would be cracked wide open.
But we don't.

So I have to do things the old-fashioned way and figure out a three-man scumteam that actually makes sense. We have the information necessary to nail the scumteam. It's just a matter of not making a mistake.

If SirCakez is scum, I think I can find it out. I have enough games with him that I have a general idea of how he operates as town, versus how he operates as scum.
This is not something which I'd trust in 100%, which is why I'm expanding it to other players: I've played many games with Persivul.
I've played a few with karnos.
I've seen Chip Butty as town a lot and have gained an idea of what to look for with him as scum.

I've also got over 75 pages of interactions, with most of the known town flips.

Also, I am Ranger.
And this is, quite frankly, one of my last games until I take a break. That break won't be permanent, but it will be happening, which means I'd prefer to end on a high note.

Being close-to-conftown, and having created conftown, in mylo, and rushing hastily to make an incorrect move?
Not exactly what I have in mind.

So I'm going to take my time and figure the game out.

[Ranger]

SirCakez(4): Persivul, Transcend, karnos, PenguinPower
Not Voting (4): MURDERCAT, SirCakez, Ranger, Chip Butty

If Chip Butty is scum and SirCakez isn't, this would be game, and I can safely say: not MY fault.

If Chip Butty isn't scum here, or SirCakez is, then this would be a rather excellent votecount to analyze and exactly what I mean in saying: we need to take our time.

Just from the VC alone, and Persivul's reaction, Transcend's continued blind insistence I am scum, karnos recklessly voting, and PenguinPower's fairly bad hop on, I can say that if you're trying to convince me SirCakez is town, you're doing a

very

excellent job of it!

[Ranger]

Basically, at this point I'm waiting either for Chip Butty to come in and confirm we don't have a SirCakez-town, Chip Butty-scum combo...
...Or for someone to unvote.

Because I'm not gonna even BOTHER analyzing the game if we just are doomed to lose right now.

[Transcend]

Ranger is conf town to cakez

Murder is conf town to cakez

Let's see what chip does

[Transcend]

Basically if chip comes and doesn't hammer cakez then cakez is confirmed scum to me.

The reason is: a confirmed town slot is voting him rn. So unless the team is karnos persivul and chip, then this is conf red to me (and only me).

[Transcend]

And basically I'm okay if chip hanmers this because I've had karnos and persivul as town and especially not on a team the whole game. So I'll just tip my hat and offer mad props.