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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:46 am

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Meh.

UNVOTE:

Ranger posted. I'm uneasy now.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:53 am

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N O O O O O O O O O O O

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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:56 am

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You're conf town if cakez is scum so if you vote cakez and chip doesn't blitz, he's confirmed scum in my pov.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:00 am

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Penguin, if you're scum slow-rolling this, I just have to say:

Screw you.

<3

Anyway, as promised, back to work.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:01 am

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If town is ranger murder cakez penguin trans, i lost. And I'm okay with said loss.
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:02 am

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Well if you're town i can give a transcend stamp of approval that penguin is town as well.

but you're probably not town lol.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:08 am

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In post 1923, Transcend wrote:Basically if chip comes and doesn't hammer cakez then cakez is confirmed scum to me.

The reason is: a confirmed town slot is voting him rn. So unless the team is karnos persivul and chip, then this is conf red to me (and only me).
So the only world in which I'm town to you, town just loses anyway? The hell is that?
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:31 am

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Yes sircakez are you upset that you're about 90% conf scum in my pov and I'm not gonna change my mind?
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:42 am

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Claimed cops who haven't acted yet get NK'd unless they're scum.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:48 am

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Podo hadn't acted yet?
I'm not sure why you guys are so confused by this, it's really transparent. Ranger understood it fine.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:51 am

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So...maybe this was the wrong way to go about things, but...

Reading SirCakez's iso (well, skimming) here, it looks like scum.
I'm going through his scum games one by one.
I see resemblance to last iteration of here, Diffusion of Power.
I see resemblance to Assassin's Creed.
His stances here seem like deja vu from Killer Instinct.
I'm seeing some resemblance to Sharing is Caring, albeit weaker.
The "town is idiots" attitude is there from America's Mafiascum.
Among other scum games.

And then we get on the town side:
It's not that applicable, but I don't see much resemblance to Pokemon Episode 5.
In Literally Anything Upick, there was a casual, effortless feeling to his posts. He was posting what was on his mind and it was doing stuff. I'm trying to see that here, and I'm finding it difficult.
There was a similar vibe in Greatest Idea mafia. I just...really don't see that this game.
ETL's uPick Horror Movies had the same thing.
By gut, this feels different from White Flag.
In JK9++, rereading, SirCakez instantly stands out as being town with what he was doing and saying. Rereading this game, I get none of that.
Musical Mafia, much the same. Looking at his posts, I remember why he instantly entered my god-tier town. Here, there's nothing of the sort.
The CLOSEST game to this one is Science. Relevance being, I misread him as scum there (though in my defense, he was hard-defending scum all game AND we had a 3p-neighborhood). It's the one which makes me not absolutely sure. Read it for yourself. There's some things which look similar, but others which feel different.

Overall: strongly lean scum, but not enough where I'd risk the game by voting him without doing something similar for the other players of interest.
Quite the RANGE.
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:54 am

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It's just that...while SirCakez looks bad, really bad with some of this stuff, both off of his play (there's some sketchy stuff) and how a lot of his earlier posting reminds me of his bussing habits where he then proceeds to go and buddy his scumbuddies to keep them alive (see also: his Transcend read), the wagon on him is just so...
bad
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Scum bussing scum is possible, but why not just go for the win?

So, basically: still very uncomfortable with the lynch on SirCakez.
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:30 pm

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Spoiler: Bad posts
Transcend wrote:Lol lol lol lol lol lol
Transcend wrote:It's the internet. I don't care that I was wrong. Nothing should be taken seriously on it.
Persivul wrote:When anen was lynched yesterday, every town person should have been thinking If there's a kill tonight that isn't cakez, cakez is scum.
Transcend wrote:also i'm okayy with the title VI because i have not successfully located and lynched one single mafia this game.
Transcend wrote:ima safely mark pers + cakez as non MVM.
Transcend wrote:hi
nice activity we've gotten here in the MYLO scenario.
Persivul wrote:Yeah, this game sucks. Don't get why people sign up for a game they don't intend to play, or don't replace if RL interferes. When half the list isn't really playing it's tough to find scum.
Especially disappointed in Anen
.
(Bold for emphasis on extra-bad.)
Transcend wrote:Anen was shit please tell me I was justified in lynching him lol
PenguinPower wrote:My reads are all blown to crap...yeah...
(Only this part though.)
Transcend wrote:i'll be the first to say there's a grand total of zero (0) clears.
(All of ^this post, but this line basically summarizes the whole post.)
Transcend wrote:But then again, I haven't lynched flipped scum one single time this game.
Transcend wrote:Chip ~HAS~ to be scum
but then again I said that about Aneninen and....
Persivul wrote:Seriously still nothing?
Transcend wrote:Hi guys I thought about it long and hard
Ranger/SirCakez/Chip Butty are mafia with a gun to my head.
Transcend wrote:stfu and stop flipping scum every game i'm town
Persivul wrote:Yes, I found it odd that she hasn't addressed that.
Persivul wrote:This^ Lately people have been too much into trying to name the entire scum team before a single red flip. Let's lynch cakez today and go from there.
Transcend wrote:Ranger/Cakez/Chip
quote me being 0/3 and it being persivul/karnos/wait i can't be 0/3 with that one
Transcend wrote:PP put him at L-1 and let's see if he gets blitzed. Do it. Do it. Do it. I either wanna lose the game or confirm him as scum fmpov so i can build a case on him.
Transcend wrote:PUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Transcend wrote:Someone (murdercat) l-1 him
Transcend wrote:MY GOD LOOK AT THIS CHEAP ATTEMPT AT NOT LYNCHING SOMEONE SHES AVIDLY SCUMREAD ALL FUCKING GAME
Persivul wrote:Yeah, that's pretty blatant. She went from him being her secret scum read, and included in all her lynch pools, to defending him and saying her read wasn't actually strong after all.
Transcend wrote:WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING ALL GAME BUT HAS ANYONE LISTENED ROFL
SirCakez wrote:You idiots Ranger is nearly conf town and her reads are good and you're ignoring them
Transcend wrote:And basically I'm okay if chip hanmers this because I've had karnos and persivul as town and especially not on a team the whole game. So I'll just tip my hat and offer mad props.
Transcend wrote:N O O O O O O O O O O O
Murdercat, my lad. Care to do the job of a penguin?
Transcend wrote:Well if you're town i can give a transcend stamp of approval that penguin is town as well.
but you're probably not town lol.
I'll take this moment to point out most of those are Transcend posts,
however
, Transcend is not without town-looking posts. I neglected to remember all of them, but one post which does look pure town is and the follow-through, . A fair amount of his posting on that page is good actually, with another solid one being . , a little later, also vaguely looks town, albeit not as strongly. I can also see town behind in particular, though it's also in slightly.

Point I want OUT of the spoiler:
Transcend wrote:PP put him at L-1 and let's see if he gets blitzed. Do it. Do it. Do it. I either wanna lose the game or confirm him as scum fmpov so i can build a case on him.
Did you forget about you saying this, Transcend? 'Cause this? This actually happened. You're doing nothing with the information OF it having happened.

I'll also point out though: most of Transcend's bad posts, while bad, are at least original.
Most of Persivul's bad posts (and he's the second-worst offender after Transcend) are blatantly buddying other players and sheeping what they've said.
The main reasons I'm not voting Persivul:
-He's not entirely wrong about SirCakez.
-I always scumread Persivul.
-I haven't done my homework yet.

So, this is why I'm not currently pushing for ANY lynch.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:32 pm

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I'll admit.
I kind-of have a #YOLO-scumteam idea of {karnos, Chip Butty} with the third as EITHER Persivul OR SirCakez.
But again, this is why full research is needed.
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:51 pm

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Ranger - doc n1
MURDERCAT (replaces MurderCat) - doc
Persivul (replaces drmyshottyizsik) - doc
Chip Butty - doc n2
PenguinPower - doc n3
Dunnstral, Town Doctor, was lynched Day 2.
Aneninen, Town Doctor, was lynched Day 3.

7 doc.
We've got at least one mafia in the doc claims.
Found this in a Chip Butty iso. There's a minimum of one scum in {Persivul, Chip Butty, PenguinPower}.
I actually think it's Chip Butty. The whole game, he's said, "I'll look at this": promising analysis.
He never actually delivers it.

This, ironically enough, was what I did in Stack the Deck, which was filled with analysis from him. three pages of it to be more precise. Speaking of that game,
Chip Butty wrote:I know the conventional logic is to no-lynch, and I guess I can live with that.
That didn't work so well in Stack the Deck, and I thought Chip Butty was a strong advocate OF lynching that game, though I'd have to check back to confirm.

I'm not absolutely sure of this, given his iso in my game is not nearly as strong, but even there, he was doing analysis. Another example? Again, this game's predecessor, where Chip was posting strongly the whole game.

That's basically nonexistent here.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:59 pm

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Chip Butty, Stack the Deck, 8p mylo wrote:NL: I'm not crazy about the idea, even at 5/3, unless we can be fairly certain there is a payoff. I.e. are we likely to be in a better position tomorrow? That payoff would come in the form of an informational NK
This is the full post for context. He did go on to say he wasn't enthused by the idea of lynching then, either, butstill.

Ahg, this is hard.

In my peak, this would've been ridiculously easy to pull off.
Here, not so much.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:05 pm

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Wow, has any player ever been as full of himself/herself as Ranger? It's kind of pathetic. It's just a game...
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:29 pm

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In post 1941, Persivul wrote:Wow, has any player ever been as full of himself/herself as Ranger? It's kind of pathetic. It's just a game...

typical ranger

they like to be right or think they're right or make everyone think they're right
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:35 pm

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can we l-1 cakez again lol
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:32 am

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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:39 am

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I gotta reread yo
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:12 am

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REREAD WHAT!?!?!??!?!?!?!
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:16 am

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Everything. I was lazy yesterday because I town read you and I though you were a counter wagon to Anen so I'm not putting cake to L-1 unless I'm sure.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:17 am

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i was a counterwagon to anen

have you never heard of TVT crosses
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:26 am

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In post 1807, MURDERCAT wrote:Cake is scum
In post 1809, MURDERCAT wrote:Cake would have died last night if he were town, why take out the n5 cop vs the unknown night cop?
In post 1828, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1818, Persivul wrote:
In post 1778, SirCakez wrote:I'm a cop
This cop is nk'd before a N5 cop. There shouldn't even be discussion, unless people want to look for his buddies.

VOTE: SirCakez
Thank you
In post 1840, MURDERCAT wrote:I think we should just lynch cake, if cake is town we will lose sooner or later anyway.
You can't be scum with Cakez!Town otherwise you and/or Ranger would have blitzed him by now.

So why are you so reluctant to vote him now that momentum has actually shifted his way?

Ranger/MC/SirCakez team possible right now but I still think MC has been towny but maybe I need to re-iso and re-evaluate.
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