Mini 1820 — Lazy Summer Mafia (Game Over)

[Infinity 324]

You can't scumread people for weak reasoning 8 pages into the game...

[rb]

Why not?

[Infinity 324]

Because all reasoning at this point is going to be weak, since there isn't much to go on.

[Naomi-Tan]

you can still get a feeling though..

[Infinity 324]

Exactly, and that's what IPS is scumreading rem for. Full circle...

[LicketyQuickety]

@IPS reads?

Town: rb, you.

Scum: Infinity, Rem, LQ

Null: Everybody else (who are either aren't posting or aren't posting anything of note)

I'll be happy to explain any if these if asked.

Why?

[Iprobablysuck]

@IPS reads?

Town: rb, you.

Scum: Infinity, Rem, LQ

Null: Everybody else (who are either aren't posting or aren't posting anything of note)

I'll be happy to explain any if these if asked.

Why?

Why what? Why am I scumreading you or something else?

[LicketyQuickety]

@IPS reads?

Town: rb, you.

Scum: Infinity, Rem, LQ

Null: Everybody else (who are either aren't posting or aren't posting anything of note)

I'll be happy to explain any if these if asked.

Why?

Why what? Why am I scumreading you or something else?

Yes.

[rb]

But that's not a yes or no question LQ!

Also hi LQ!

[Naomi-Tan]

Im just voting them because what they offended me.

[rb]

Because all reasoning at this point is going to be weak, since there isn't much to go on.

VOTE: Infinity

Just nope.

[Naomi-Tan]

IPS is giving off very different vibes from the games I read with him in it as town. Though I do remember him warning about early wagon in that game too...

Early wagons are good for reactions.

IIRC Naomi is a womans name.

erm.. Rb I would kinda agree we are starting to get momentum though so given a couple more pages there may be enough to make a larger swing.

[rb]

I've seen people say "oh Day 1 interactions don't mean that much" exactly 8 times. 7/8 times the person saying or implying it was scum.

[rb]

And my paraphrase there generally encompasses the dismissal of early-game bad play just because early-game and so on.

[Naomi-Tan]

IPS is giving off very different vibes from the games I read with him in it as town. Though I do remember him warning about early wagon in that game too...

Early wagons are good for reactions.

IIRC Naomi is a womans name.

Naomi doesn't get it... but okay..

[Naomi-Tan]

Hmm... not sure why that quoted ... wasn't me trying to do it..

[rb]

Ghost in your PC? O_O

[Infinity 324]

Because all reasoning at this point is going to be weak, since there isn't much to go on.

VOTE: Infinity

Just nope.

I'm not using it to make excuses, so how is that scummy?

My reasoning is, well, reasonable for this early on d1, and IPS called it out as scumy. Same with vibes.

Vote me for my reasoning if you think it's bad, not for my idea about the game.

[rb]

I'll vote you for whatever reason I want. You're not my dad!

[rb]

But in all honesty I think it's just scummy to discredit the value of early game in general. It's actually a vital part of the game and very useful to re-read because the interactions there, the scum haven't had time to adapt to what suits the particular town they're playing with. Late game scum interactions are really hard to re-read because they're all wifom. It's scumgame to devalue early game.

[Infinity 324]

Early game is a lot more valuable looking back imo

By definition, later game you'll have more information since you can also look back at the early game.

If you think you can make strong cases against people on page 8, I strongly disagree.

[rb]

I think that scumminess isn't necessarily an over time thing and you can absolutely find scum early. I think it's pretty common for scum to get early game pressure, suspicion evaporates and then they coast.

But whatever, more Infinity votes plz.

[Infinity 324]

That's...true, but that doesn't mean you can make very strong arguments for scum on page 8...

The fact that you think this theory discussion is AI is questionable...

[rb]

That's...true, but that doesn't mean you can make very strong arguments for scum on page 8...

The fact that you think this theory discussion is AI is questionable...

Tbh I explained what I thought was AI:

I've seen people say "oh Day 1 interactions don't mean that much" exactly 8 times. 7/8 times the person saying or implying it was scum.

^ that's why I'm scumreading you right now.

I never said this theory discussion right now is necessarily AI. But the way you're throwing shade at me as if that's what I said is questionable...

[Infinity 324]

Yeah but you have to look at context. There isn't a particular scum motivation to saying what I said there, because I'm trying to scumhunt just as hard as if I didn't say that.

The scum you're talking about there, I assume, tried to use their statement to make excuses or ignore valid evidence. That's certainly not what I'm doing here. I'm using it to argue against IPS's reasoning which doesn't really make sense.

And of course, expression suspicion is questionable...